As one who was in the business with Apple when Microsoft ripped their OS off, I have to say no, I am happy to see Apple standing their ground this time.
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As one who was in the business with Apple when Microsoft ripped their OS off, I have to say no, I am happy to see Apple standing their ground this time.
This "patent BS" is what drives innovation and business. Without it we would operate under a socialistic society and likely still be making phone calls on a hand cranked wood box connected to a manual switchboard.
Glideslope
macrumors G3
They can't by themselves. Regardless of price. It will be a Google Consortium vs an Apple Consortium.
Considering Redmond's interest in Facebook, and Google's off to a good start with the Beta of Google+, IMO it's safe to say Redmond won't be on a Google Team.
Look for serious Patent Reform by 2020-2025.
franswa za
macrumors 6502a
They can't by themselves. Regardless of price. It will be a Google Consortium vs an Apple Consortium.
Considering Redmond's interest in Facebook, and Google's off to a good start with the Beta of Google+, IMO it's safe to say Redmond won't be on a Google Team.
Look for serious Patent Reform by 2020-2025.
googl is still search ing... they need new blood double plus good..
at least redmond, again trying to innovate, and apple hedging?
eish.. coming from an apple fan, not a fan boy
Sure am but it won't stop. Those who have the power to do so won't because it's a sure way to line their pockets (congress, lawyers, corporations).
cmaier
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*LTD*
macrumors G4
Or those that have patents would actually like to protect the integrity of their product(s) for which they apply.
If it isn't an iPhone .... it isn't an iPhone.
Can't blame them for trying to protect the things that make the iPhone and their other products unique.
macsmurf
macrumors 65816
Of course the patents in question don't have anything to do with the iPhone. Not that facts will change your mind.
I think it's good that HTC is showing initiative in this whole lawsuit and are willing to compromise with Apple so everyone can be happy. The only thing I've heard from this is if Apple wins, HTC phones will be banned from the US. Don't want!
*LTD*
macrumors G4
I for one would like to see this patent rubbish at least disappear from the public eye. I would love to log in to MR one day and seem a news page full of new ideas and innovative products, rather than page after page of IP insults that very few of us know nothing about.
Apple IS an innovative company, we all know this. Why then do Jobs and his advisers feel the need to make such a big deal about their IP disputes. As someone who works in dispute resolution, never have I seen one company so keen to make it public knowledge about how well (or badly) they are doing in the courts. Slowly over time, we are seeing Apple being more and more liked to IP rather than product design and innovation.
I'd like to know the last time Apple released a truly innovative product, rather than an evolution of their existing lines. I admit, I'm struggling.
Apple IS an innovative company, we all know this. Why then do Jobs and his advisers feel the need to make such a big deal about their IP disputes. As someone who works in dispute resolution, never have I seen one company so keen to make it public knowledge about how well (or badly) they are doing in the courts. Slowly over time, we are seeing Apple being more and more liked to IP rather than product design and innovation.
I'd like to know the last time Apple released a truly innovative product, rather than an evolution of their existing lines. I admit, I'm struggling.
silentnite
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BaldiMac
macrumors G3
Apple doesn't make a big deal about their IP disputes. The Apple news and rumor sites that you choose to visit do. 😕
iPod, iPhone, iPad. Was that a trick question?
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macrumors G4
That's pretty much what we've been seeing on MR, as it's an APPLE-centric site.
For Apple, patent suits are just business - nothing out of the ordinary, and they've been very litigious from day one. Apple has *always* sought to defend their IP vigorously. It's how they have always operated. You're just seeing more because they've got more products and more IP these days. But they've always been litigious. You just either can't remember that far back and/or the focus is on what they're litigating *now*, making it look like it's something new.
Apple has always been pretty concerned about "this patent rubbish."
It's in part due to that concern, that they've been able to create products like OS X, Macs, iPads, iPods, iPhones, and preserve their desirability and uniqueness.
Either you're kidding or it's something you ate.
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No, seriously. Last *new* product that Apple developed that hasn't been an evolution of an ongoing product line?
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macrumors G4
Apple has created and redefined entire markets. They do this regularly. Which is why their positive mindshare is so ridiculously massive among consumers and industry critics.
An evolution of an existing product can re-make the industry almost entirely.
Take the iPad for example. Yup, go ahead and say it's a big iPod. That's a massive evolution that occurred almost overnight, by the way. Fast Fwd to today. Complete paradigm-shift. Look at what this "big iPod" has done. Creation of a viable tablet market which forms the basis for the next level of computing. And no competitor as yet can touch this "big iPod."
Your definition of that can be yours, of course, and you're allowed to have it. We can have all sorts of abstract definitions that are fun and interesting. However, it's either informed or uninformed. It either reflects reality or it doesn't.
The whole no-innovation-big-iPod line has by now been acknowledged to be both outdated and downright wrong.
So take a second or third or fourth look (however many it takes) at what you posted and revise accordingly.
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Mattie Num Nums
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BaldiMac
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cmaier
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You do realize apple doesn't control the press, right? In the US legal complaints are public. When apple
sues or is sued, the press finds out about it and reports on it. Apple is not making public statements about these lawsuits.
As for your last paragraph, you must be joking?
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macrumors G4
Sorry bub, not when what I say is directly in line with reality.
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Right, so these products were released (in their first iterations, as I asked) years and years ago (at least in the case of the iPod).
I don't know... When I bought my first Apple product, they were really going places with new tech (eg. that iPod... magic). However, IMO, the last few years have seen rather lazy rehashing of existing products - how many generations of iPod were there, we're now on our 5th iteration of the iPhone and soon to be 3rd gen of the iPad. I'd just love to see new products, or new innovations at least, not just a minor speed bump to the iPhone.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Then you'd be better of criticizing Apple's competition first.
By your standards they're pretty much stagnant.
What a strawman... I never said the iPad was a 'big iPod', don't put words into my mouth. FWIW, I love the iPad and its a fantastic example of Apple innovation. Look at my post above for my problems with Apple's lack of current innovation.
But we're not discussing the competition... I'm criticizing Apple because I CARE about their products, I still use my 5 year old white Macbook (now THAT was a fantastic new machine) with glee on a regular basis.
I don't care what other tech companies particularly do, I don't use their products. I also don't see you denying what I've said.