iPhone 5 Update 'Bigger Than Expected', Coming to Canada October 1st?

So, it might get bigger, slimmer and better processor. What? Bigger than expected? We all expected it to become slimmer and bigger and have better hardware. That's the whole point of new phone.

akm3 said:

Why? What will LTE allow you to do that you *need* that that 3G won't?

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Have you seen the speed of 4G? I am sure if iPhone did have 4G LTE, you would be saying completely different thing. So why do you "need" 3G when 2G will do the same. Why do you "need" broadband when dial-up can do the same. Just because you "think" you have no need for it, doesn't mean millions of other people don't need it either.

erzhik said:

Have you seen the speed of 4G? I am sure if iPhone did have 4G LTE, you would be saying completely different thing. So why do you "need" 3G when 2G will do the same. Why do you "need" broadband when dial-up can do the same.

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That's one of the biggest issues. I've had 4G+ at 50Mb/s since Dec 2009. Everything else seems somewhat annoying. Not in a condescending way, but in a less-developed way that makes one question infrastructure priorities.

Breaking news: At some indeterminate point in time in the future Apple will release an updated version of it's popular iPhone. Some features, specifically which are unknown at this time, will be improved and others will not.

I'm really getting tired of these iPhone 5 rumors. Every one seems to contradict the other. Lets face it. No one knows anything yet!!

davie18 said:

I don't know why anyone is doubting this is going to be a big upgrade.

Firstly after attena-gate, I highly doubt they will keep that design aspect of the phone the same.

Secondly, this refresh is coming months later than usual for previous phones, so they have had longer to develop it.

And finally, the iphone 4 is starting to get quite behind the competition hardware wise, and if apple's refreshes are going to only be 12-18 months then when they launch a new phone it has to be quite ahead of the competition so that throughout the cycle it can still stay near the top.

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I agree with you on the longer refresh cycle, but disagree on antennagate. The iPhone 4 has been Apple's best selling iPhone, with the greatest longevity. It's sales are still strong more than a year after its introduction. Other models dropped of significantly in the second half of their release cycle. This has a lot to do with adding a Verizon model, but AT&T sales remain strong too. The average consumer does not care about "antennagate". It's not a big deal, certainly not a reason to change the design. If the design changes, and it looks like it will, this won't be the reason.

akm3 said:

Why? What will LTE allow you to do that you *need* that that 3G won't?

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The only thing off the top of my head is tethering.

these 'analyst' read the same rumors as us and make predictions and get paid; I wish I could know how to get a job like that

OM double G!

*sings the Canadian national anthem

MacRumors said:

Wu does not have a terribly good track record when it comes to iPhone rumors...

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SwiftLives said:

I seem to recall that Mr. Wu doesn't exactly have a great track record in predicting much of anything.

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You were able to recall this information 7 minutes after it was posted?

I definitely believe that the next iPhone will have a curved form, like the teardrop design, rather than something like that of the iPhone 4.

Aviboy97 said:

I'm really getting tired of these iPhone 5 rumors. Every one seems to contradict the other. Lets face it. No one knows anything yet!!

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This is MacRumors... But I would like to see this and other sites start tracking or keeping a score card on the analysts, speculators, insiders.

davie18 said:

I don't know why anyone is doubting this is going to be a big upgrade.

Firstly after attena-gate, I highly doubt they will keep that design aspect of the phone the same.

Secondly, this refresh is coming months later than usual for previous phones, so they have had longer to develop it.

And finally, the iphone 4 is starting to get quite behind the competition hardware wise, and if apple's refreshes are going to only be 12-18 months then when they launch a new phone it has to be quite ahead of the competition so that throughout the cycle it can still stay near the top.

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I totally agree on this. But what should we expect.

I doubt LTE will be there due to the compromises the current tech needs, plus it is irrelevant to so many customers throughout the world as 4G network coverage is still in its infancy.

There may be a bigger screen, but hopefully it doesn't mean a bigger device. All those 4"+ Androids look huge.

If there is a redesign as I expect, I'm sure there will be a totally revised antenna functionality.

Hopefully it will also be more comfortable to hold than the current design. I have a bumper on my iPhone 4 mainly because it is uncomfortable to hold without it. That the current design is also too fragile with the exposed glass is another reason for the bumper.

Apart from that, a speed bump plus all the new iOS5 functions.

I was thinking that there was no way they could improve on the iPhone 4's design until I saw that mockup. That thing is sexy.

Makes sense. Apple won't just standby and watch competitors pass by the iPhone and just play the catch up with specs.

Can't wait for it

everyday we have new rumors but where is the iPhone 5 ?

Sounds perfect. Announcement on Sept 20th - and launch on Oct. 1st. Moscone is available on the 20th, and that's a Tuesday

Nicolas4ever said:

everyday we have new rumors but where is the iPhone 5 ?

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Maybe you should take your signature's advice.

MacRumors said:

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All this is probably all correct. But whoever said that all carriers will e getting it at the same time. Maybe Canada is getting it 2 weeks after the US. Or maybe Tellus is getting it 2 weeks after the first wave.

davie18 said:

And finally, the iphone 4 is starting to get quite behind the competition hardware wise, and if apple's refreshes are going to only be 12-18 months then when they launch a new phone it has to be quite ahead of the competition so that throughout the cycle it can still stay near the top.

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Apple seems perfectly content with not having the best spec'ed hardware, or the limited feature set, etc.

What they excel in is a near-flawless marriage of hardware and software, and a feature-set included that will not degrade the user experience at the end of the day. Some examples include Flash integration (how many mobile users are thrilled with the performance of Flash?) and true multi-tasking (which Apple recognized could not have been implemented without a negative impact on battery life and performance - both of which are very real, as I can tell you as a jailbroken iPhone user with true multi-tasking). While other companies seem to focus their energy on putting a dual-core processor in, Apple focuses on how they can further enhance the user experience at the end of the day. This is why I will buy an Apple product over a better-spec'ed product.

Aviboy97 said:

I'm really getting tired of these iPhone 5 rumors. Every one seems to contradict the other. Lets face it. No one knows anything yet!!

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Some people know, but they are not the only ones talking. Rumours are all part of the anticipation of Apple releases. It wouldn't be the same without them, that is why I come to Mac Rumors.

I wonder...

CottageDream said:

I definitely believe that the next iPhone will have a curved form, like the teardrop design, rather than something like that of the iPhone 4.

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I'm wondering if maybe the new, slim, teardrop design is a revised, cost-reduced replacement for the 3GS. It would essentially have the same specs as the existing iPhone 4, perhaps with a slightly larger screen.

The new iPhone 4GS would come in a case visually similar to the existing iPhone 4's, only slightly larger, with a thinner bezel, incorporating a larger screen. It would have boosted hardware, comparable to that of the iPad 2, and sport improved battery life over the existing models.

LTE will come with a totally new design sometime next summer, as the iPhone 5.

As much as I love it, I'm starting to accept that it won't have iPhone 4's form factor. A part of me is hoping this isn't true but the rational side is saying yes. Furthermore, to me, LTE isn't that much of a deal breaker considering the limited space that LTE covers. i'm just hoping for a bigger screen real estate and spec bumps galore. Of course I wouldn't mind NFC love but i can dream. I definitely want to buy. I can't wait for launch day =]

drewc1138 said:

Maybe you should take your signature's advice.

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hahah i love the rumors but with the iPhone 5 is gonna drive me crazy.

CottageDream said:

I definitely believe that the next iPhone will have a curved form, like the teardrop design, rather than something like that of the iPhone 4.

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Personally, I think the teardrop design will just prove to be a new iPod touch, which has been updated every September since its conception.

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