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Apple Suing Motorola Over Design of Xoom Tablet
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I think Im going to rush to judgement and pick sides BEFORE I know exactly what aspects of the Xoom are the specific alleged problem. Assumptions over facts, simplicity over detail! Whos with me?
I think that is the same that the Samsung one:
http://es.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001
The life of iOS started life as a tablet OS according to Jobs which was later moved onto phones. How was the touch ever first?
NOOO!!!
you lie. no tablets existed before the almighty ipad. only apple has the right to innovate.
I understand that... They claim they shipped $440,000 Xooms last quater. I wonder how many are still in bargin bins, and how many were sold for a loss. I am also curious as to the number of people who would have bought iPads, but instead bought a bargin bin Xoom that was sold at a loss. (To either Moto or the retailer.)
No, I'm saying that the iPad did not come from the idea of a tablet, but it came from the idea of the iPod Touch. It's basically an iPod with a bigger screen for more functionality.
It's not like other tablets, which got the idea from previous tablets.
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anyone else realize how pointless it is to argue about this? everyone has their own opinion trying to change ones mind which isnt going to work and wont change a thing about any of it. its likie some people think apple is actually reading these convos lol
anyone else realize how pointless it is to argue about this? everyone has their own opinion trying to change ones mind which isnt going to work and wont change a thing about any of it. its likie some people think apple is actually reading these convos lol
Great post. Thanks for proving the point!
Edit: After seeing this picture, I'm convinced more than ever that Apple should just go butt-wild with suing. The copying has just gone to hell now.
Sure, but you can easily say that the design change was from time. In the 90s and early 2000s, everything (cars, appliances, etc) was ugly.
Just out of curiosity
Why is it such a bad thing when Apple GETS sued for patent infringement, yet it is perfectly ok when they go out and sue everyone else?
Has fanboyism really gotten this ridiculous? Just a note, every device I own is Apple, so I am no troll spewing venom. I am just an ordinary guy that is observing a lot of rich lawyers getting richer, billion dollar organizations spitting at each other, and the folks that pay to make them billion dollar organizations pick sides.
Don't be sheep, competition is a GOOD thing, it forces companies to innovate. Innovation equals better products for us at lower prices. These lawsuits squash that. You have a product that is taking 5% of my market, let me stop that and sue you for steeling my idea. So then my question is what should a tablet outside of an iPad look like?
Why is it such a bad thing when Apple GETS sued for patent infringement, yet it is perfectly ok when they go out and sue everyone else?
Has fanboyism really gotten this ridiculous? Just a note, every device I own is Apple, so I am no troll spewing venom. I am just an ordinary guy that is observing a lot of rich lawyers getting richer, billion dollar organizations spitting at each other, and the folks that pay to make them billion dollar organizations pick sides.
Don't be sheep, competition is a GOOD thing, it forces companies to innovate. Innovation equals better products for us at lower prices. These lawsuits squash that. You have a product that is taking 5% of my market, let me stop that and sue you for steeling my idea. So then my question is what should a tablet outside of an iPad look like?
I owned 2 touch-screen tablets (HP 1000 and 1100) several years ago. They had the same 'form factor' i.e. thick black bezel on a touch device. I don't think that's the entire basis of the suit.
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i dont see how this is a bad thing. only serves well ir the customer. its called having a choice. just look at all those touch phones nowadays. can u believe if tey iphone were the only one to look like that. how boring would that be
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i dont see how this is a bad thing. only serves well ir the customer. its called having a choice. just look at all those touch phones nowadays. can u believe if tey iphone were the only one to look like that. how boring would that be
Actually, they DO "read" it. There are crawlers that gather consumer sentiment and create charts that can be used to predict stock movement to 80% accuracy. They sell the data to companies. Apple probably buys their data.
This is hilarious because they purposefully turn widescreen tablets onto their sides to make them vertical like the ipad. If you turn those earlier, pre-ipad tablets on their side... they'd be just like the ipad too. OMG.
The difference is Before iPad those were Tablet PC's running the full Windows Operating System.
The "after iPad" devices just like iPad run a mobile version of a whole different Operating system.
If you look at the old IBM PC's and put them next to the old Apple 2, would you notice a difference? Were there lawsuits there as well?
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While I agree the constant back and forth litigation is kinda embarrassing I can understand Apple wanting to protect it's brand. And there are parallels with two well established product groups.
When Sony released the 'Walkman' it was an instant tech hit and of course mercilessly copied. So much so that soon, to all non-techies, they were all 'Walkman's' and thus Sony's brand strength was diluted.
Vacuum cleaners are better known by the term Hoover. Which again was a make from a company that became THE standard for that product group.
And now it's happening to tablets. WE the tech savvies know the difference between Xoom, Galaxy 10.1, iPad etc etc. But the masses, the ones that buying the majority of these devices I'm afraid are already showing signs of calling them all iPads.
Understandably, Apple don't want that to happen. They want it very clear that an iPad is not mistaken for anything other than an iPad by anyone. That, I believe, is the crux of Apple's current lawsuits. They don't want to stop others selling tablets or creating their own. They just want it so these products look sufficiently different from an iPad to your average consumer so there is no confusion.
And with the best will in the world, most of them do look like iPads to your average person or were clearly influenced by them. Has anyone seen a brightly coloured Xoom or Asus tablet for example?
While I agree the constant back and forth litigation is kinda embarrassing I can understand Apple wanting to protect it's brand. And there are parallels with two well established product groups.
When Sony released the 'Walkman' it was an instant tech hit and of course mercilessly copied. So much so that soon, to all non-techies, they were all 'Walkman's' and thus Sony's brand strength was diluted.
Vacuum cleaners are better known by the term Hoover. Which again was a make from a company that became THE standard for that product group.
And now it's happening to tablets. WE the tech savvies know the difference between Xoom, Galaxy 10.1, iPad etc etc. But the masses, the ones that buying the majority of these devices I'm afraid are already showing signs of calling them all iPads.
Understandably, Apple don't want that to happen. They want it very clear that an iPad is not mistaken for anything other than an iPad by anyone. That, I believe, is the crux of Apple's current lawsuits. They don't want to stop others selling tablets or creating their own. They just want it so these products look sufficiently different from an iPad to your average consumer so there is no confusion.
And with the best will in the world, most of them do look like iPads to your average person or were clearly influenced by them. Has anyone seen a brightly coloured Xoom or Asus tablet for example?
However, there is a definite similarity and parallel in functions, technologies and application of those. Are we discussing purely cosmetic because it is obvious to us, or because that is all that is concerned in the patents?