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dashiel

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Nov 12, 2003
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They are glad. Motorola holds 17000 patents. Guess how many Apple is infringing?

It's all about patents, my friends. Anything that lead to cross-licensing agreement is good news for Saumsung and HTC.

It is, but that doesn’t mean the Motorola isn’t going to get preferential treatment. They will of course be the next Nexus provider.
 

ChazUK

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Feb 3, 2008
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Essex (UK)
It is, but that doesn’t mean the Motorola isn’t going to get preferential treatment. They will of course be the next Nexus provider.

Untrue. From the conference call:

Q: How do you manage the business model issues related to the partners. How do you firewall issues that would come up?
Page: We’ve had tremendous success with ability to run ecosystem with a number of different partners.
Rubin: We have this strategy where we have this Nexus program and lead device strategy. We select, around Christmas-time each year, a manufacturer to release a phone. That includes all the components to build a device. Teams huddle together in a building and launch these. We don’t expect that to change. Acquisition will be part of that bidding process and lead dev. process. Android remains open to other partners (sidenote: sounds like there’s a bidding process to be involved in Nexus program).

Assumptions running rampant! :eek:
 

FakeWozniak

macrumors 6502
Nov 8, 2007
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God sold out

It's almost like Google bought God for $12B USD. Motorola is about as old of a cell phone maker as exists.

Okay, now it's okay for them to rip off other companies, they got leverage. :-(

I don't believe this is smart for Google in the long run. They had to do it before Samsung had to pay Microsoft royalties. Too late for the other Android licensees of Microsoft technology. Maybe there is still time for Microsoft to stick it to Samsung while the FTC/SEC is investigating. I don't think it will be allowed to happen.

Anyhow, in the long run, Moto was hurting profit wise (loss actually, IIRC thanks to Asymco). Google just blew over a third of their war chest on a loser. The Foss Patents story on Motorola (just hours before the announcement of the acquisition) explained the only way Motorola could use it's patents, which was against the other Android partners (Samsung, HTC, etc). Google won't be using those 17K patents against Android partners, and they won't be using them against Apple, RIM, Nokia, Microsoft partners because there are already agreements in place, so they just burned $12B to protect themselves against Lodsys type trolls.
 
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leesmith2

macrumors member
Aug 25, 2009
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I'd like to see Apple pick up RIM and HP and form a separate division to go hard after the corporate market.
 

craznar

macrumors regular
Jun 20, 2009
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Notice that whilst Apple is probably not infringing any Motorola patents - does not mean that Apple are not currently licencing them.

That is as good a weapon as infringement.

Summary - Patents in the US are dooming innovation like nothing else ever has, the sooner the existing patent system is destroyed the better.
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
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Canada
It is, but that doesn’t mean the Motorola isn’t going to get preferential treatment. They will of course be the next Nexus provider.

We've seen this sort of thing play out before with a different company. It didn't end well. Though Google already has a firm footing in the universal-licensing game with Android.
 

ajvizzgamer101

macrumors 65816
Mar 3, 2008
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I really don't follow the Motorola cell phones...but had a Razr back in the day.

I think Apple's now in for an even bigger battle as Motorola now has big big bucks filling it's pockets to fuel more and better Androids.

I think Apple will have more of a battle because Google is tightening up the Android line up. Instead of like 15 phones a year, there will be like 3-4. Biggest complaint is when you have different phones running the same OS it works well for some, but other will have major slow down and lost of features. Apple has people on a schedule. This is the year of iPad 2 and iPhone 5. This is the year of iOS 5 and Lion. I have always said... if you want to be successful you have to make the Software AND the Hardware. (not in money but respect)
 

fjsiskilroy

macrumors newbie
Feb 28, 2011
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Auburn Hills MI
This is not just about patents

They are glad. Motorola holds 17000 patents. Guess how many Apple is infringing?

It's all about patents, my friends. Anything that lead to cross-licensing agreement is good news for Saumsung and HTC.

While acquiring Motorola's Patents will help the Android cause, most of them are phone related, not necessarily smart phone OS related (which most of the lawsuits are coming from). IF they really wanted to protect HTC and Samsung, they would've jsut bought the patents from Motorola and not buy the whole thing. Google doesn't do hardware, they are a services company.

IN the end this move is to clearly control the faith of Android in the future and that will most certainly affect players like Samsung and HTC.

As a user, from whom would you buy your next Android handset, from Motorola which is directly tied to Google and therefore will always have the latest and greatest updates. Or go with another company and have to wait (months) for the manufacturer to make all the necessary software updates to their respective handsets (and only on the newer hardware).

In the end HTC and Samsung would not be in control of their faith and would always be behind in their own market.
 

Renverse

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Apr 11, 2011
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No one has ever successfully licensed a platform *and* competed with licensees at the same time. Apple tried it (twice) as did Palm & Nokia. I'm highly skeptical that Google will succeed.
 

wovel

macrumors 68000
Mar 15, 2010
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They are glad. Motorola holds 17000 patents. Guess how many Apple is infringing?

It's all about patents, my friends. Anything that lead to cross-licensing agreement is good news for Saumsung and HTC.

Apple already has licenses and litigation with Motorola. This is about stopping Motorola from destroying Android.
 

Lone Deranger

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Apr 23, 2006
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Tokyo, Japan
So according to Google's top brass when Apple buys patents it's anti-competative, but Google buying patents is breaking new ground? Hypocrisy defined right there. :rolleyes:
 

rdowns

macrumors Penryn
Jul 11, 2003
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So they're untrue?:confused:

Likely. You really believe that all the other Android manufacturers "welcome" Google buying Motorola? Give me a break.

Wonder what Google promised them for their "cooperation".
 

Ted13

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Dec 29, 2003
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NYC
They are glad. Motorola holds 17000 patents. Guess how many Apple is infringing?

It's all about patents, my friends. Anything that lead to cross-licensing agreement is good news for Saumsung and HTC.
Did Google just promise they will cross license the Motorola patents free of charge to all Android handset/tablet makers and developers? If not, your comment doesn't make any sense.
 

freediverdude

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Dec 26, 2006
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Those statements from the other manufacturers are all practically identical, which means the statements released were managed beforehand between all of them. So we don't really know how they feel internally. I imagine there is some trepidation there though, and I'm sure Google had to do some reassuring.
 

ckurt25

macrumors 65816
Mar 25, 2009
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I see this as a good thing for consumers. True competition in the marketplace is never a bad thing. Apple & Google will continue to develop the latest and greatest for a bigger slice of the pie. The winner in all of this will be us as we get better hardware and software.

I don't know if LG, Samsung & HTC will be affected too much. They'll continue to work with Google on using Android in their devices. They're not going to cut off their nose to spite their face.
 

ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
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Essex (UK)
So according to Google's top brass when Apple buys patents it's anti-competative, but Google buying patents is breaking new ground? Hypocrisy defined right there. :rolleyes:

So they should just have let others steamroll the platform with litigation? This is a reaction to the situation Google have found themselves in.

Likely. You really believe that all the other Android manufacturers "welcome" Google buying Motorola? Give me a break.

Wonder what Google promised them for their "cooperation".
I've got nothing else to go by, unless all press releases and PR is bull-****? Are you (and others) so negative when it comes to Apple PR stuff?
 
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