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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:31 AM   #1
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Apple's Glass Roofed Retail Store Approved Without Even Discussion







The Santa Monica Dispatch's Peggy Clifford attended yesterday's Santa Monica Planning Commission meeting and reports that Apple's new Third Street Promenade building was quickly approved, without even discussion.
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The surprise was that the staff put the project on the Consent Calendar. I cannot remember any large, complex commercial project ever going on the Consent Calendar. Apple was the only item on last night's Calendar. And, under the rules, the Consent Calendar is approved as a whole - unless someone wishes to pull at item for discussion.

And in that crucial blink, the commissioners approved the Consent Calendar (aka Apple Glass House), and that was that - except for a staff report on the redesign of the Project Case List, after which they adjourned.
The proposal first came to light yesterday, and detailed a new 8,084 glass-roofed Apple Store to be built on the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, California. The store will be built in the space of an old Borders Bookstore.






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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:36 AM   #2
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I am not surprised, some of the Apple stores are almost tourist attractions.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:38 AM   #3
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And after the decision all the board members walked out and collected their nice new shiny MBA's.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:39 AM   #4
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Wouldn't it be hot inside?? Think greenhouse effect... I mean they will obviously use ACs...but still I don't think that's a good design....coming from Apple I expect more...

What's more...on a sunny day...I wouldn't want to feel like I'm "shopping" for products OUTSIDE...feels very cheap...feels like buying something from an illegal street merchant..
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:39 AM   #5
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It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:41 AM   #6
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How many birds are gonna fly into this thing? Not to mention **** all over it.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:44 AM   #7
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It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...
It would probably be more surprising if they didn't gush over him given what Steve Jobs and Apple has done for Cupertino.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:45 AM   #8
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Of cause it was auto-approved.
Apple say jump and the world says how high.
The only ones who do not are the combatants of the patent wars.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:47 AM   #9
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It would probably be more surprising if they didn't gush over him given what Steve Jobs and Apple has done for Cupertino.
Oh, I totally agree that Apple basically put Cupertino 'on the map', but still, they're government officials with a job to do. At least try to have some self-respect.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:54 AM   #11
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And after the decision all the board members walked out and collected their nice new shiny MBA's.
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Wouldn't it be hot inside?? Think greenhouse effect... I mean they will obviously use ACs...but still I don't think that's a good design....coming from Apple I expect more...

What's more...on a sunny day...I wouldn't want to feel like I'm "shopping" for products OUTSIDE...feels very cheap...feels like buying something from an illegal street merchant..
There are many things you can do to glass to help counter heat and an over abundance of sunlight, these things could easily be done to the roof without people noticing. Do you really think the Apple designers have no taken this into consideration and just plan on throwing plain old regular glass on the ceiling?

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It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...
What would you have liked them to do exactly? The see a great looking structure being built by a reputable company who does a great job on their stores. A company who's stores bring in a lot of customers and revenue. This is an existing space being changed around for a new business. What should there concerns have been exactly where they needed to debate this?
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:56 AM   #12
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Where does the rain go?
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That's a nice building. I guess they were all thinking of taxes when they approved without discussion.
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Is the title of this news story wrong or am I reading it incorrectly? "Without even discussion" is a strange phrase.

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Where does the rain go?
Non issue, rain would never touch an Apple store. It goes around.
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It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...
Professional? They're local government. These are your neighbors with a little bit of power, not some 5-term US Senators.

Plus, look, the buildings Apple designs look amazing, and they will bring in lots of money to the local community. Why wouldn't you kiss Apple's ass?
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I dont understand the point to this question. It would go to the same place as a regular roof.... On the roof and then it would flow off to the ground.
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It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...
As much as I love Apple products, I wholeheartedly agree with you. What's the purpose of holding a public meeting at all, if the board members aren't going to at least publicly discuss pros and cons of the project?
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Don't you know that the sun always shines around Apple Stores.
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I dont understand the point to this question. It would go to the same place as a regular roof.... On the roof and then it would flow off to the ground.
Look at the picture. The other roofs are flat and must have hidden drains. The water doesn't overflow down their sides.

So I think he's talking about how the Apple store's curved roof doesn't even appear to have gutters. Of course, that's almost certainly artistic license in that drawing. I highly suspect it does have hidden drains along the edges.

PS. Good thing it's not white painted glass. It'd be delayed for years while they work out the light leak and reflection issues
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I like it.

Just like with most things Apple does, Apple usually knows what's best for consumers before they even know what's best for themselves. Maybe the store experience will be terrific. Maybe the light through the glass will be welcoming. Maybe it is architectural genius (or at least neat)!

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Does this mean that all new Macs will come with anti-reflection glass displays. Just think about all that sunlight and the reflections.

Can you actually read an iPad or iPhone in the sun.
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As much as I love Apple products, I wholeheartedly agree with you. What's the purpose of holding a public meeting at all, if the board members aren't going to at least publicly discuss pros and cons of the project?
City governments are required to approve things like this in open meetings.

It's also a simple matter of a new store going into the footprint of an older store - not much change as far as environment, traffic, ....
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It reminds me of some Minecraft buildings I used to make with glass blocks :P

Cool design anyway!
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