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Multiple Sources Suggest Apple Working on Television for as Early as 2012
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I'd love to be wowed, but I just can't see where they'd go with this. As others have said, I don't want to replace my giant TV frequently to keep up with computing tech--and even if Apple puts what amounts to an iMac in the back of a big TV, there will always be something better next year.
What would really sell it would be a compelling alternative to the horror of existing TV distribution through cable/satellite and DVRs--but Apple could do that already through the Apple TV box. Again, as others have said, the problem there is completely unrelated to technology: It's destroying and rebuilding the video distribution business model.
I don't really need Angry Birds, Twitter or Facebook on my TV. I'm not sure how I'd control those apps with a seven-button remote anyway. From a couch potato's perspective, I'd want to sit down, open up my entertainment queue, and immediately start watching relevant shows. Apple doesn't need to build a TV to achieve this, they can do it right now with the existing Apple TV hardware.
What would really sell it would be a compelling alternative to the horror of existing TV distribution through cable/satellite and DVRs--but Apple could do that already through the Apple TV box. Again, as others have said, the problem there is completely unrelated to technology: It's destroying and rebuilding the video distribution business model.
I don't really need Angry Birds, Twitter or Facebook on my TV. I'm not sure how I'd control those apps with a seven-button remote anyway. From a couch potato's perspective, I'd want to sit down, open up my entertainment queue, and immediately start watching relevant shows. Apple doesn't need to build a TV to achieve this, they can do it right now with the existing Apple TV hardware.
Honestly, I think for them to be successful in the TV industry they will have to announce some service or something that is more groundbreaking than what is out there, because why would people switch to a tv that is at a premium over a another competing tv?
I guess we'll see
I guess we'll see
Do you ever watch anything on the ABC Network ?
If you do you are watching 720P because that's what they broadcast in.
With Steve at the helm I would have said never, but who knows about Tim.
I sure would be less likely to upgrade a TV every couple of years, compared to a 99 dollar set-top box.
I sure would be less likely to upgrade a TV every couple of years, compared to a 99 dollar set-top box.
More than a TV
Factor in that iOS will now have iCloud and iMessage along with FaceTime, this new device will do to TV's what iPhone (and to some degree iPad) did to the phone. A home entertainment/gaming/communication device that fills another new market. *The controller would probably be some combination of the wireless mac keyboard with a magic track pad along side it. It would most likely have a mic built into it so people could talk over iChat as they sit on the sofa. And if Apple get's their act together on voice recognition, the mic could also control the set as well as send messaging.*
Factor in that iOS will now have iCloud and iMessage along with FaceTime, this new device will do to TV's what iPhone (and to some degree iPad) did to the phone. A home entertainment/gaming/communication device that fills another new market. *The controller would probably be some combination of the wireless mac keyboard with a magic track pad along side it. It would most likely have a mic built into it so people could talk over iChat as they sit on the sofa. And if Apple get's their act together on voice recognition, the mic could also control the set as well as send messaging.*
If it happens at all, it won't be an AppleTV mounted in a TV. Apple will not get into a commoditized market like the TV market. Apple is about simplifying things in everyday life, and convergence of life experiences and technology. Think more along the lines of a wall-mountable 32" (or more) iMac with integrated set-top box/amplifier/AppleTV/iChat camera/Hulu/YouTube/App Store. So you replace your STB, AppleTV, stereo, gaming console, DVD player, telephone and computer with one device. Now that's how Apple would do it.
Only thing that could hold it back would be the lack of Blu-ray support...
Only thing that could hold it back would be the lack of Blu-ray support...
There's no money in software upgrade. new OSX=$29.99.
Would $50.00 be a fair price for iOS upgrade for a apple TV, no.
You buy a iOS device with the expectation that you bwill be able to upgrade your iOS to the latest version for 2-3 years for a nominal price. In don't think you could expect more that that for free for a TV either.
It has to be said again, this TV BETTER NOT BE rectangular. Rectangular TVs already exists. If Apple puts their name on a such a device, or any device that looks similar to existing TVs they will be BLATANTLY COPYING. This TV cannot look similar to anything on the market. By Apple's logic, this is considered blatantly copying. So if they do it, Apple will show themselves to be the hypocrites that they are. The blind followers who think it is ok for Apple to do such a thing will also show themselves to be the biased blind followers that they say they are not. Remember it was Apple who first decided that no one else can make a rectangular shaped phone or a tablet. Only because Apple felt they did it first, which they didn't of course. So you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Can't wait to see the world's first circular, triangular, or any non-rectangular TV. Your move Apple.
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Yes, but the rumors are saying an Apple branded TV would Include the ATV hardware inside, meaning computer components like the A5/A6, RAM, and storage.
Apple works on lots of things that never get completed and shipped. If this isnt one of those experimental projects, then theyll need to convince a certain number of peopleenough to be worth productionthat theres a good reason not to just pick the exact size and style of TV to fit your home, and attach an Apple TV to that.
And maybe there IS a reason... But I dont see it yet.
And maybe there IS a reason... But I dont see it yet.
Right, but having that stuff inside of a large screen TV sort of makes it not ideal for upgrading. If Apple released a TV with an A5 chip for example, it would probably remain 4-5 generations behind all other iOS devices before most consumers would even consider swapping out their TVs.
ABC is owned by Disney, which Steve has a huge stake in- so that makes sense...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
In the United States, 720p is the preferred format for the broadcast and cable networks of Fox/FX/Fox Sports Net, ABC/Disney Channel/ESPN, A&E Television Networks, Ion Television, MLB Network, and DirecTV's Audience Network. It is also the default format online for many web television producers such as CNET, Hulu and Revision3 due to bandwidth concerns.
Add CBS to that also.
..except that what all TVs already look like. But phones didn't look like the iphone until Apple showed it. So your analogy is completely nonsensical
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TVs might be "prototyped" and "worked on" and have "people hired for design", but developing something and then releasing it are two different things.
"Jobs, of course, had also denied that Apple had any interest in producing an Apple cell phone back in 2003, four years prior to the launch of the original iPhone."
I seem to recall Jobs saying they wouldn't release a product until they were convinced they could make a real difference for consumers. I also recall Steve saying they developed the iPad first and only late in the game decided to do a small version as the iPhone.
TV is a tough market. Entering the "screen biz" is not very profitable and other major players do a terrific job with hardware. TV viewing is also going down in hours per day per person. I recall surveys saying consumers now use a computer more hours a week than TVs.
Hence, there are serious considerations as to what constitutes "The TV Market"!
I'm not in the biz, but can only guess that whatever device is released will not just be a TV, but will be part of the connected Apple ecosystem that runs the gamut from local hardware to the iCloud storage in Pennsylvania.
TVs might be "prototyped" and "worked on" and have "people hired for design", but developing something and then releasing it are two different things.
"Jobs, of course, had also denied that Apple had any interest in producing an Apple cell phone back in 2003, four years prior to the launch of the original iPhone."
I seem to recall Jobs saying they wouldn't release a product until they were convinced they could make a real difference for consumers. I also recall Steve saying they developed the iPad first and only late in the game decided to do a small version as the iPhone.
TV is a tough market. Entering the "screen biz" is not very profitable and other major players do a terrific job with hardware. TV viewing is also going down in hours per day per person. I recall surveys saying consumers now use a computer more hours a week than TVs.
Hence, there are serious considerations as to what constitutes "The TV Market"!
I'm not in the biz, but can only guess that whatever device is released will not just be a TV, but will be part of the connected Apple ecosystem that runs the gamut from local hardware to the iCloud storage in Pennsylvania.
The only way I see this happening is if it is a hybrid, TV/Apple display that can be hooked to a computer. Basically upgrade the current displays with TV components. Possibly redesign them too and add some ports.
This is why Apple takes competition by surprise.
Even if rumours are loud of what's coming none can see far enough to understand what Apple is up to.
Yeah, because all Apple products are always more expensive than competitors like say the iPad.
You want whats coming you just can't understand how its going to work for you.
Apple is noww more an consumer electronics company than a computer company and the king of the living room has always been the TV.
Even if rumours are loud of what's coming none can see far enough to understand what Apple is up to.
Yeah, because all Apple products are always more expensive than competitors like say the iPad.
You want whats coming you just can't understand how its going to work for you.
Apple is noww more an consumer electronics company than a computer company and the king of the living room has always been the TV.
Yap, tell LG and their LG Prada
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
In the United States, 720p is the preferred format for the broadcast and cable networks of Fox/FX/Fox Sports Net, ABC/Disney Channel/ESPN, A&E Television Networks, Ion Television, MLB Network, and DirecTV's Audience Network. It is also the default format online for many web television producers such as CNET, Hulu and Revision3 due to bandwidth concerns.
Add CBS to that also.
And because the broadcast is 720p the TV has to be 720p?