Full Resolution Photos from the New iPhone 4S Camera

for all the magic in this camera they forgot one critical aspect that makes all the difference .................... no wide angle :roll eyes:


and I was watching the keynote on the site ...... is it me or does that presenter not know much about cameras? The only other explanation I can think of is that he intentionally talked down the tech terms; like Dynamic Range; which seems to be the same as the current i4 camera (which is decent but no dSLR)

Beautiful colors and definition. Im excited to see what fast motion capture looks like (they showed a teaser photo of 3 folks jumping on the promo vid).

Wow these pictures are much larger than I thought they would be, in comparison to my 3GS. Looks like i'll have to go 32GB.

danpass said:

for all the magic in this camera they forgot one critical aspect that makes all the difference .................... no wide angle

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They forgot to make iPad a widescreen device too according to your perspective, right?

BaronStein said:

They forgot to make iPad a widescreen device too according to your perspective, right?

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so what you're saying is that you're not familiar with camera lenses?

danpass said:

so what you're saying is that you're not familiar with camera lenses?

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toddybody said:

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hot

Those eight pics are nice. But it doesn't really tell the whole story.

Show us some impressive low-light pictures, then we can talk.

danpass said:

for all the magic in this camera they forgot one critical aspect that makes all the difference .................... no wide angle :roll eyes:


and I was watching the keynote on the site ...... is it me or does that presenter not know much about cameras? The only other explanation I can think of is that he intentionally talked down the tech terms; like Dynamic Range; which seems to be the same as the current i4 camera (which is decent but no dSLR)

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the bolded part is your issue right there. It's a phone.

backinblack875 said:

the bolded part is your issue right there. It's a phone.

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and it never will be (a dSLR)

but they try to play it up and compare

then again I'm an INTJ. Don't give me crap or fancy marketingspeak, just facts

I wanted to see a 24mm equivalent wide angle lens instead of this eternal 36mm and narrower stuff (heck 30mm would have been good)

Absolutely beautiful. These are miles better than what I can get on my point-and-shoot, and certainly better than what my parent's high-end point-and-shoot takes!

I cannot wait to get mine. Mum, who currently uses a Nokia feature phone, is even wanting one after seeing the Siri video and these pictures!

I, for one, am incredibly pleased with this new iPhone. Haters gonna hate.

Trauma1 said:

Those eight pics are nice. But it doesn't really tell the whole story.

Show us some impressive low-light pictures, then we can talk.

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The iPhone 4 is already great in low light—I use it that way all the time. The HDR feature helps, as does the Flash, but even unaided it’s better than the dedicated camera I used to love, and better than the pics other people are taking in the same locations. Definitely competitive with standalone cameras (the kind you leave home and get nothing from).

And the iPhone 4S should be even better than that in low light: 72% more light sensitivity than the iPhone 4.

P.S. For REALLY low light I 've downloaded a couple great long-exposure apps. Some more serious, some more for fun. And then there are apps like 360 Panorama. So easy! Let’s see a “real” camera do these things! And editing, and uploading and....

danpass said:

then again I'm an INTJ. Don't give me crap or fancy marketingspeak, just facts

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I'm a fellow INTJ. We're clearly the best type!

Looks good. Especially for a phone. Good details and colors. Metering needs some work as the highlights blow out easily and while they mentioned DOF, the bokeh that is present is poor.

nagromme said:

The iPhone 4 is already great in low light

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I disagree. They may look ok on the phone itself, but once they are upload to a full-sized display, the weakness shows.

But I'm not complaining, because it is a phone.

danpass said:

and it never will be (a dSLR)

but they try to play it up and compare

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I thought they were comparing it to point-and-shoots.

How the heck did they get so close to the squirrel??

danpass said:

and it never will be (a dSLR)

but they try to play it up and compare

then again I'm an INTJ. Don't give me crap or fancy marketingspeak, just facts

I wanted to see a 24mm equivalent wide angle lens instead of this eternal 36mm and narrower stuff (heck 30mm would have been good)

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It seemed pretty clear to me that they were making a comparison to P&S cameras, not DSLRs. The lead in slide was even a generic P&S icon.

Sure 24mm or wider is fun, but the average iPhone or any average photo taker is less interested in wide than tele. So, 36mm with a digital zoom is reasonable, considering the physics of such a small lens. To go wider, I'd guess that you'd start to run in to some serious distortion and loss of sharpness.

Like someone else said, it's a phone. You obviously have other equipment to use when you want to go wide.

ENTJ here.

Will you be able to purchase the iphone 4S WITHOUT a contract like you can all the other iphones?

I travel alot, and dpnt need the phone, but sure would like the iphone 4S as a travel camera, skype, video recorder. Instead of lugging around a laptop and dslr....this would be a really compact nice alternative.

Even if its $600 or $700 unsubsidized, it'd be worth it for me considering dslrs cost alot more...and even a good point & shoot camera costs around $300 or so. And the iphone does so much more.

Not activating the phone part, but having it for travel woukd be sweet.

extreme close up...

DTphonehome said:

How the heck did they get so close to the squirrel??

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Whoa, I know, that up-close pic of the squirrel is just nuts, both literally and figuratively.

danpass said:

for all the magic in this camera they forgot one critical aspect that makes all the difference .................... no wide angle :roll eyes:


and I was watching the keynote on the site ...... is it me or does that presenter not know much about cameras? The only other explanation I can think of is that he intentionally talked down the tech terms; like Dynamic Range; which seems to be the same as the current i4 camera (which is decent but no dSLR)

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Seems like you are the one that is dropping the ball. With a fixed focal length lens, it's a mistake to leave it very wide. You have to balance both the tele and the wide side and choose a median ground. And as the other poster mentioned, reducing distortion and improving corner sharpness while fulfilling whatever cost restriction Apple has in place is also vital. This leaves anything too much on either the wide or tele side out of the question.

I'll leave my serious photo expeditions to my DSLR, 2.8 zooms and 1.4 primes. For everything else, the 4S camera sounds excellent. The Samsung Galaxy S 2 camera in my opinion only barely edged out the iPhone 4 even with the extra megapixel. The 4S camera probably will simply blows the competition away.

I still want my 4"+ screen tho... And from a market standpoint, making a phone that does not at all easily differentiation from their last generation might not be a good idea....

Great detail, awesome photos.
Would prefer RAW or at least PNG, though. Lossy JPEG? Seriously? It kinda ruins the purpose of an 8MP camera.


*everybody rages over RAW part of the comment and ignores the PNG part*

Prodo123 said:

Great detail, awesome photos.
Would prefer RAW or at least PNG, though. Lossy JPEG? Seriously? It kinda ruins the purpose of an 8MP camera.

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I don't think I've ever had a phone or a point and shoot that produced RAW images. How much more memory do RAW images require?

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DTphonehome said:

How the heck did they get so close to the squirrel??

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Some sort of time delay aperture control, and put some food next to the phone, maybe?

MacinDoc said:

I don't think I've ever had a phone or a point and shoot that produced RAW images. How much more memory do RAW images require?

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Some sort of time delay aperture control, and put some food next to the phone, maybe?

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