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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:39 PM   #26
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I like the attitude. A lot.

Android is essentially the PC of mobile devices. I think that in order to "destroy" Android, iOS is going to need a feature that Android simply can't mimic, and with that, something that changes everything, again. Which, no doubt, is what Steve left the big in the four year plan.

And Steve smiles down on his legacy...
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:40 PM   #27
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IOS 5 vs Android, Not 4s

I love my 4s, but this is about the OS being copied.

I hope they both thrive - competition is good, but I'm staying with IOS for the long term. Siri Rocks and iCloud is Amazing.

Go Apple!
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:40 PM   #28
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iPhone has already won the war in my opinion.

You don't need to conquer the world to be a dominating super-power.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:40 PM   #29
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Good. That's exactly the attitude Apple should continue to have about Android with Steve gone. It's a cheap knock-off of a beautiful product that took no imagination to copy.
It's apparent you've either never used an Android phone, or you've never used an iOS device. That's the only way I could explain away such an ignorant statement.

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And Flash? Really? Does anyone really miss Flash on their iPhone or iPad? I don't. First, my battery lasts longer without it.
And you're comparing this to... what exactly? The iPhone that had flash on it and had terrible battery life? All the phones that I've owned that had flash compatibility on them had perfectly comparable battery life to an iPhone. Flash is terrible, though, nobody is arguing that.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:41 PM   #30
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Apple has learned from their Microsoft days... NEVER BACK DOWN.

(Ironically, I had a friend who said those exact words before he got knocked out)
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:41 PM   #31
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....and made a new design instead of the iphone 4s.


The 4S has nothing to do with beating Android.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:42 PM   #32
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I could not agree more. Destroy Android at any and all costs!
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:42 PM   #33
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Steve was an artist... when someone steals your creative ideas, your 'baby', that becomes more important than money... right on
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:44 PM   #34
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If this was Steve's war (not Tim's) I wonder if things will calm down now between Apple and Samsung.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:44 PM   #35
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:44 PM   #36
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As much as he hated Android, it's been great for competition.

Side note: it looks like the memorial is officially over. Steve no longer graces the Apple front page.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:44 PM   #37
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doesn't google have to give George Lucas a nickel every time they say "android"?

Even the freaking name is stollen. Don't get me wrong, I think android has some strengths. But it is hard to deny that the original android was a direct rip off of the original iPhone OS.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:45 PM   #38
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It's apparent you've either never used an Android phone, or you'v never used an iOS device. That's the only way I could explain away such an ignorant statement.
I've used both. In fact, in my house, there is an Android phone (my wife's Nexus S) and my iPhone 4S.

I've used both extensively. I've used versions of Android dating back to near the beginning.

It's a cheap knock-off of a beautiful product.

You can't deny what Android was originally going to be. It was designed as a BlackBerry clone, but once the iPhone was released, Google decided "Hey! This new OS looks great! Let's copy that one instead!" And they did.

Anyone who actually denies that Android was made as a cheap copy of iOS is ... well, I don't know what they could be.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:45 PM   #39
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Anyone who cannot see that Schmidt sat on the Apple board and hoovered up ideas from the iPhone project is blind.

Google bought Android and after quitting the Apple board, Schmidt set about implementing the ideas he had seen in action on the iPhone project.

Steve wasn't stupid, he knew Schmidt had ripped Apple off, which is why the iPad, in it's earliest form, was hidden from Schmidt.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:45 PM   #40
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He could have killed android if he allowed flash and made a new design instead of the iphone 4s. Not that it isn't a great phone, but it could have beat android in so many ways.
I am tired of people whining about not getting a new design. The iPhone 4/4S is by far the best looking phone on the market.
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He's definitely passionate about protecting his company's ideas...
Like Apple has never stolen anything.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:45 PM   #42
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webOS is the only OS apart from iOS that is actually good and original. Android is inefficient and poorly executed, even the Windows Phone 7 is better than Android.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:45 PM   #43
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Let's see...

Why don't we start with...

The whole damn OS???
Do please tell me exactly which parts of the OS were "stolen". Specifics, not generalities. This is the same Apple that claims any kind of ownership of "colorful icons arranged in a grid". His word is not exactly gold in this matter, and his feeling slighted is irrelevant.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:46 PM   #44
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Really, to think that any product isn't derivative in some ways of other products, seems irrational. Certainly Jobs deserved to be proud of everything the iPhone accomplished and to be peeved that there was a strong competitor who used some of its ideas. But rather that accept that competition would help drive Apple to make an even better product, the quote as expressed seems kind of like jousting at windmills. I am sure more context in the book will cast this incident in a somewhat different light.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:47 PM   #45
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It's apparent you've either never used an Android phone, or you've never used an iOS device. That's the only way I could explain away such an ignorant statement.



And you're comparing this to... what exactly? The iPhone that had flash on it and had terrible battery life? All the phones that I've owned that had flash compatibility on them had perfectly comparable battery life to an iPhone. Flash is terrible, though, nobody is arguing that.
Wow, girl. You needs to do some research.

Oh wait, I'm sure you somehow always wind up with the magical Android phones that magically never have any of the battery problems that the rest of them do. Yeah, that's gotta be it. It couldn't possibly be that you're full of crap and trying to convince people to ignore the facts.
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webOS is the only OS apart from iOS that is actually good and original. Android is inefficient and poorly executed, even the Windows Phone 7 is better than Android.
Windows Phone 7 deserves applause for it being an original product!
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:48 PM   #48
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that's gonna be a tough task.

Not changing the look of the iPhone certainly isn't going to help
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Let's see...

Why don't we start with...

The whole damn OS???

Google must be then the greatest artist of all history

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Do please tell me exactly which parts of the OS were "stolen". Specifics, not generalities. This is the same Apple that claims any kind of ownership of "colorful icons arranged in a grid". His word is not exactly gold in this matter, and his feeling slighted is irrelevant.
Quick, find me a capacitive touch screen, multi-touch phone with tap/pinch to zoom and full web browsing that was released before 2007.

Don't be willfully ignorant. You know what the facts are.
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