iPod Creator Tony Fadell's Next Quest Is to Revolutionize Thermostats - Page 2

forty2j · Oct 25, 2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBJammin103

Come on people think a little bigger - how about home-devices combined with the [presently hypothetical] Siri third party API?

"Siri, it's a little warm in here"
"Siri, set the living room to 70 degrees whenever I'm home."
"Siri, when I leave for work set the house to 78 degrees for 6 hours."

Give it 6 months or so. Siri's API needs to be opened, and I'm sure that's in progress.

Wrathwitch · Oct 25, 2011, 01:59 PM

I think it's sexy as hell.

I really hope it comes to Canada soon (including option for Celcius).

Good on him for continuing to innovate.

I really HATE my programmable thermostat, requires a bloody science degree to work it. I just turn it up and down as I come home and leave now.....

WW

longofest · Oct 25, 2011, 02:03 PM

I'll stick to my Carrier thermostat that came with my hybrid heat system. Pretty easy and intuitive to me.

Gemütlichkeit · Oct 25, 2011, 02:15 PM

"mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm"

Shrink · Oct 25, 2011, 02:16 PM

What if I want the heat to come on 1/2 hour BEFORE I get up so I get up to a warm bedroom.

Do I have to get up 1/2 hour before my usual time for a week to train it to come on before I get up. I have a programmable thermostat that I just set to 1/2 hour before I get up. As far as programming a thermostat - if I can do it - ANYONE can do it.

Granted, It looks cool. But I'm not sure that it is a major improvement over available programmable thermostats.

EnergonCube · Oct 25, 2011, 02:21 PM

Wicked cool and definitely getting one. Does anybody else get the sense this guy is acting very much like Steve Jobs demoing a new product or is just me?

portishead · Oct 25, 2011, 02:22 PM

I preordered one. It's at Best Buy so I can always try it out first. Looks cool, and I've always wanted to be able to control a thermostat from my iPhone. Next will be light/wall socket controls I hope.

Darth.Titan · Oct 25, 2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasei

The question I would like answered is does it have a pet mode? I would hate to come home one winter evening and the thermostat is set to 60 and the cat and dog are both sick. I know it has a motion detector. Is it sensitive enough to pick up the 4-legged habitants of the house? I am sure the temp can just be adjusted from the iPhone app, but if this can done automatically sign me up. Any way I can save money and automate a part of my house I am all for it.

Do you really believe your furry pets can't handle a temperature of 60 degrees?
They wouldn't bat an eye I assure you.

HiRez · Oct 25, 2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramuman

...except for a willing car company. No car company would allow a 1024x768 display with GPS/iPhone/handsfree and one that's upgradable when they can charge $3000 for an inferior version as part of a "technology" package.

Except fewer and fewer people are paying those insane prices for them anymore, as cheaper and better alternatives become available (standalone GPS units, iPods, iPhones, etc.). Plus, Apple already has iPod integration with many car manufacturers, this would just be an expansion of that, and they could split the profits with the car dealers and/or companies. Consumers get a better, probably cheaper product, car companies get happy customers more willing to add it to their bill than a non-upgradeable, proprietary piece of junk, and still make money in the process without spending much R&D or support resources (they just provide Apple with access to the car's low level interfaces, Apple writes and upgrades the software, and Apple does the support).

G4-power · Oct 25, 2011, 02:47 PM

Pretty cool. Seems like a clever product. I want one (or more) of those. First I need to get my own house, though.

kasei · Oct 25, 2011, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth.Titan

Do you really believe your furry pets can't handle a temperature of 60 degrees?
They wouldn't bat an eye I assure you.

Yeah, I would normally say that, but I have a siamese cat and they don't do well in low temps. Discovered that the hard way this summer with the AC.

After looking through the support page and based on what they've said about the programming I am sure median tempt can be set and the system can learn from there.

3N16MA · Oct 25, 2011, 03:28 PM

I think some are missing the point. As was explained in the video only around 10% of programmable thermostats are actually programmed. Most likely due to many not truly understanding how to program them properly because of traditional interfaces. The benefit of a programmable thermostat is not truly being experienced by many.

The Nest Learning Thermostat was made to make the process easier and simpler. Nice easy to understand UI that learns your habits. Traditional thermostats do not account for alterations in your schedule but this one does. It learns what you do and adjusts accordingly. Also the connectivity features are a nice addition.

It's not as flashy as an iPod but it's still innovative.

lolnick · Oct 25, 2011, 03:38 PM

Why havent people figured out you dont need to say "Siri,_______"

rva1 · Oct 25, 2011, 03:41 PM

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davidwarren · Oct 25, 2011, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolnick

Why havent people figured out you dont need to say "Siri,_______"

But it's more fun to say it that way.

Aeolius · Oct 25, 2011, 03:43 PM

I cannot help but wonder if we are looking at the future; WiFi connected home automation devices replacing the likes of INSTEON, X-10, Z-Wave and the like.

I was already looking forward to Apple opening Siri's API, so that Perceptive Automation could get ahold of it. Then their Indigo application, communicating with INSTEON devices, could turn on lights, open doors, adjust HVAC, detect motion, and more... all using voice activation.

rva1 · Oct 25, 2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemütlichkeit

"mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm"

Q: Seriously? Can you learn how NOT to say, "mmm, hmm" every 5 friggin' second!?!

A: mmm, hmm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidwarren

But it's more fun to say it that way.

I am so glad the interviewer wasn't on the software team for Siri...

User: "Siri, remind me to wake up at 6:30am on Wednesday"

Siri: "mmm, hmm"

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Quote:

Originally Posted by portishead

I preordered one. It's at Best Buy so I can always try it out first. Looks cool, and I've always wanted to be able to control a thermostat from my iPhone. Next will be light/wall socket controls I hope.

mmm, hmm

Drumjim85 · 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth.Titan

Do you really believe your furry pets can't handle a temperature of 60 degrees?
They wouldn't bat an eye I assure you.

My furry pet would hibernate and die if it got below 70.

macnisse · Oct 25, 2011, 03:50 PM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3)

Looks nice!

Aeolius · Oct 25, 2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portishead

Next will be light/wall socket controls I hope.

Indigo Touch (iOS app) + Indigo (OS X application) + INSTEON Light Switch

HarryKeogh · Oct 25, 2011, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrathwitch

I think it's sexy as hell.

A sexy thermostat? Oh for eff's sake.

Mad-B-One · Oct 25, 2011, 04:08 PM

My thermostat is in the hallway - so as long as I don't go to my son's room, it will think I'm not at home... for 250 bucks, I expect sensors for other rooms and outside (since it ca do WiFi) so it actually knows if I am really gone or not. But I guess that is more like future talk.

If he really would have wanted to integrate intelligently, he would have had remote air duct shutters and single room sensors. THAT would have been revolutionary. Other thermostats give me the temperature/mode by hour already for less than that. Doesn't look as good, but hey, that is a lot of money he wants.

room237 · Oct 25, 2011, 04:08 PM

How many songs does it hold?

Kissaragi · Oct 25, 2011, 04:25 PM

Id take any thermostat that bloody works at the moment! This does look cool tho

Maccleduff · Oct 25, 2011, 04:32 PM

Ok, this guy seems switched on, and I see where he's coming from on all the points he makes.

But there is a single reason why it looks bad imo. The logo 'nest' is front and centre on the device.

If I were to design any product I would keep the frontfree of ANY logos, cos I just really hate them. Especially words. (Apple logo looks nice because it is a graphical logo.)

Oct 25, 2011, 01:59 PM	#27
Wrathwitch macrumors 65816 Join Date: Dec 2009	I think it's sexy as hell. I really hope it comes to Canada soon (including option for Celcius). Good on him for continuing to innovate. I really HATE my programmable thermostat, requires a bloody science degree to work it. I just turn it up and down as I come home and leave now..... WW __________________ Life is too short to dance with ugly men!
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Oct 25, 2011, 02:03 PM	#28
longofest Demi-God (Editor) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Falls Church, VA	I'll stick to my Carrier thermostat that came with my hybrid heat system. Pretty easy and intuitive to me. __________________ Never falling under anyone's Reality Distortion Field: Tech Perfect
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Oct 25, 2011, 02:15 PM	#29
Gemütlichkeit macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2010	"mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm...mmhmm" __________________ "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God." -Thomas Jefferson
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Oct 25, 2011, 02:16 PM	#30
Shrink macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England, USA	What if I want the heat to come on 1/2 hour BEFORE I get up so I get up to a warm bedroom. Do I have to get up 1/2 hour before my usual time for a week to train it to come on before I get up. I have a programmable thermostat that I just set to 1/2 hour before I get up. As far as programming a thermostat - if I can do it - ANYONE can do it. Granted, It looks cool. But I'm not sure that it is a major improvement over available programmable thermostats. __________________ Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein
	2

Oct 25, 2011, 02:47 PM	#35
G4-power macrumors regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oulu, Finland	Pretty cool. Seems like a clever product. I want one (or more) of those. First I need to get my own house, though. __________________ MacBook Pro 13", 8 GB RAM I support the MacRumors Blood Drive!
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Oct 25, 2011, 02:21 PM	#31
EnergonCube macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2009	Wicked cool and definitely getting one. Does anybody else get the sense this guy is acting very much like Steve Jobs demoing a new product or is just me?
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Oct 25, 2011, 02:22 PM	#32
portishead macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: los angeles	I preordered one. It's at Best Buy so I can always try it out first. Looks cool, and I've always wanted to be able to control a thermostat from my iPhone. Next will be light/wall socket controls I hope.
	3

Oct 25, 2011, 03:28 PM	#37
3N16MA macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Space	I think some are missing the point. As was explained in the video only around 10% of programmable thermostats are actually programmed. Most likely due to many not truly understanding how to program them properly because of traditional interfaces. The benefit of a programmable thermostat is not truly being experienced by many. The Nest Learning Thermostat was made to make the process easier and simpler. Nice easy to understand UI that learns your habits. Traditional thermostats do not account for alterations in your schedule but this one does. It learns what you do and adjusts accordingly. Also the connectivity features are a nice addition. It's not as flashy as an iPod but it's still innovative.
	6

Oct 25, 2011, 03:38 PM	#38
lolnick macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2010	Why havent people figured out you dont need to say "Siri,_______"
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Oct 25, 2011, 03:41 PM	#39
rva1 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2007	mmm, hmm... mmm, hmm... mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm, mmm, hmm...................... __________________ rva1 Mediocrity is epidemic
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Oct 25, 2011, 03:43 PM	#41
Aeolius macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002	I cannot help but wonder if we are looking at the future; WiFi connected home automation devices replacing the likes of INSTEON, X-10, Z-Wave and the like. I was already looking forward to Apple opening Siri's API, so that Perceptive Automation could get ahold of it. Then their Indigo application, communicating with INSTEON devices, could turn on lights, open doors, adjust HVAC, detect motion, and more... all using voice activation.
	0

Oct 25, 2011, 03:50 PM	#44
macnisse macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2010	Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3) Looks nice! __________________ MBA 2.0GHz i7 (mid 2012), 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, ML 10.8.2 Retired workhorse: Blackbook 2.4GHz (final version), 4GB RAM, Intel X25-M 160GB SSD, SL 10.6.8 = snappy and rock solid!
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Oct 25, 2011, 04:08 PM	#47
Mad-B-One macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Southern Plains	Nice but... My thermostat is in the hallway - so as long as I don't go to my son's room, it will think I'm not at home... for 250 bucks, I expect sensors for other rooms and outside (since it ca do WiFi) so it actually knows if I am really gone or not. But I guess that is more like future talk. If he really would have wanted to integrate intelligently, he would have had remote air duct shutters and single room sensors. THAT would have been revolutionary. Other thermostats give me the temperature/mode by hour already for less than that. Doesn't look as good, but hey, that is a lot of money he wants. __________________ Join the Macrumors.com - Team Folding and donate your CPU & GPU processing power to a good cause! Visit my YouTube channel: ThoringersTanks
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Oct 25, 2011, 04:08 PM	#48
room237 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Queens, NYC	How many songs does it hold?
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Oct 25, 2011, 04:25 PM	#49
Kissaragi macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2006	Id take any thermostat that bloody works at the moment! This does look cool tho
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Oct 25, 2011, 04:32 PM	#50
Maccleduff macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2007	Ok, this guy seems switched on, and I see where he's coming from on all the points he makes. But there is a single reason why it looks bad imo. The logo 'nest' is front and centre on the device. If I were to design any product I would keep the frontfree of ANY logos, cos I just really hate them. Especially words. (Apple logo looks nice because it is a graphical logo.)
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