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Siri Protocol Cracked, But Unique iPhone 4S ID Requirement Hampers Distribution

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Applidium, the developers who brought the open source video player VLC to the App Store only to have it pulled over licensing issues, have announced that they have reverse engineered the protocol used to allow Siri to communicate with Apple's servers. Citing an example in which they were able to communicate with Siri servers directly from a computer, the developers note that they were able to have the servers recognize and analyze their voice input just as if it had originated from an iPhone 4S.
Today, we managed to crack open Siri's protocol. As a result, we are able to use Siri's recognition engine from any device. Yes, that means anyone could now write an Android app that uses the real Siri! Or use Siri on an iPad! And we're going to share this know-how with you.
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Unfortunately for those hoping to make use of Siri in their apps on iOS or other platforms, the protocol is set up to transmit a unique identifier for a given iPhone 4S. The developers at Applidium were able to extract that identifier from one of their devices and use it to authenticate their non-iPhone Siri input, but such code would likely not survive being included in an application packaged for distribution, as Apple's servers would presumably be able to easily identify and blacklist any device identifier generating excessive usage from multiple locations.

The developers do note, however, that the proof of concept demonstration may prove interesting for developers looking to play around with non-iPhone 4S implementations of Siri for their personal use.

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BrownManUPS

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If you are a developer, you should get an iPhone 4S. It is the proper Siri use-case and the one used by masses, so why bother going around it for a product that normal users won't have?
 
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PJMAN2952

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Wow. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4 definitely should have gotten Siri. Apple just wants money and thats why they are just having it for the iPhone 4S. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4G both have A4 which in my opinion is great for Siri.
 
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androidfan

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I wouldn't want siri on my android phone, compared to my google voice apps it is hindered and not as sophisticated. Apple should just make siri open and allow devs to work with it. But then again apple wants to keep everything in a walled garden. *sigh* what a joke....
 
Dwalls90

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Is anyone shocked that Apple validates the device to ensure it's "allowed" to use Siri services?
 
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HarryKeogh

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Anyway, why an Android user would want to get their hands on Siri is beyond me. I've heard a few of them say their phones have been doing advanced voice recognition for years!
 
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PJMAN2952 said:
Wow. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4 definitely should have gotten Siri. Apple just wants money and thats why they are just having it for the iPhone 4S. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4G both have A4 which in my opinion is great for Siri.
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The only thing iPhone 4s has that the 4 didn't is siri... of course apple is lame and won't let anyone else have siri they want you to just keep paying the apple tax on a two year old product that is slower, smaller, cheaper, and more fragile then the competition.
 
jafingi

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What I actually find most interesting is the http user agent: It identifies itself as "Assistent".

This may confirm some of the iPhone 5 rumors, as the source said the prototype had Siri, but it was called Assistent.
 
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androidfan said:
I wouldn't want siri on my android phone, compared to my google voice apps it is hindered and not as sophisticated. Apple should just make siri open and allow devs to work with it. But then again apple wants to keep everything in a walled garden. *sigh* what a joke....
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obviously you have not used siri.
 
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Siri is Apple's property, and they would rightfully prevent others from using it on devices other than what Apple intends.
 
spazzcat

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PJMAN2952 said:
Wow. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4 definitely should have gotten Siri. Apple just wants money and thats why they are just having it for the iPhone 4S. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4G both have A4 which in my opinion is great for Siri.
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I said this before and will say it again, I believe the reason they didn't has more to do with load on the severs then anything else.
 
hobo.hopkins

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So a family may only need one iPhone 4S (so they have a device ID) to have them all take advantage of some Siri features. Pretty cool.
 
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foidulus

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androidfan said:
The only thing iPhone 4s has that the 4 didn't is siri... of course apple is lame and won't let anyone else have siri they want you to just keep paying the apple tax on a two year old product that is slower, smaller, cheaper, and more fragile then the competition.
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Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your time than pointlessly troll with paper thin arguments that only serve to elicit impassioned responses? Get a job.
 
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spazzcat

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androidfan said:
ya i tested it out in an AT&T store, didn't work as well as the google version it couldn't connect to the server, then it kept lagging and doing the wrong thing.
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So you used it once in a store. I can tell you for fact Siri beats google voice commands....
 
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webman2k

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PJMAN2952 said:
Wow. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4 definitely should have gotten Siri. Apple just wants money and thats why they are just having it for the iPhone 4S. The iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch 4G both have A4 which in my opinion is great for Siri.
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Wow - what a brilliant observation, that Apple wants money. That greedy "for profit" business.
 
spazzcat

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androidfan said:
no they just want to force people to pay the apple tax for a mediocre upgrade...
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No once forces anyone to upgrade, and most people with a 4 are under contract and can't upgrade until the 5 comes out anyways...

And there is nothing mediocre about the 4S upgrade...
 
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foidulus said:
Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your time than pointlessly troll with paper thin arguments that only serve to illicit impassioned responses? Get a job.
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I like to school the apple sheep on why their products are illogical, overpriced, and over hyped compared to the competitors.
 
MacAddict1978

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androidfan said:
I wouldn't want siri on my android phone, compared to my google voice apps it is hindered and not as sophisticated. Apple should just make siri open and allow devs to work with it. But then again apple wants to keep everything in a walled garden. *sigh* what a joke....
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Troll.

Google voice commands are not a one stop shop like Siri. In many cases, you have to go to different apps and use the voice control within that app. It's not as system wide or as friendly for sure.

Google's voice controls also are not interactive. There are tons of side by side comparison videos on the tech sites showing the major differences. Google isn't in the same ball park.... don't mean this won't put fire under their ass to clean up their mess.
 
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