wikus
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Unfortunately, this is the only time I'll agree with you.
The general public has no integrity.
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Apple Admits to Court that Samsung Will Draw More Customers from Android than iOS
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Unfortunately, this is the only time I'll agree with you.
The general public has no integrity.
Also another quick thing to add, sucks how apple limits the media files too i mean wtf? seriously?
FLAC for example (way better than mp3) and MKV or even AVI, having to buy apps to play these files is just stupid tbh when you can play these right out the box in most android devices.
FLAC for example (way better than mp3) and MKV or even AVI, having to buy apps to play these files is just stupid tbh when you can play these right out the box in most android devices.
wikus
macrumors 68000
I suspect that has to do with piracy and apple's distribution of media through their itunes store from networks.
Give ipod/iphone/ipad the ability to playback open source formats like xvid, x264 and mkv and a lot less people will legally purchase their content.
But thats just another reason why I use Android, no need to put up with apple's horse hockey, as sour as that may taste for the apple fanboys.
Oletros
macrumors 603
Well, it seems that Samsung sold at least the same amount of smartphones per quarter than Apple so yes, they sell millions of units per week at any time
gkpm
macrumors 6502
Samsung says the same about their users:
"Samsung argues that they [Apple] are not direct competitors because Samsung customers are unlikely to switch from a Samsung product to an Apple product. Samsung offers evidence that its products cater to a different part of the smartphone market than the Apple iPhone because the products have different operating systems." (page 31)
"Samsung argues that they [Apple] are not direct competitors because Samsung customers are unlikely to switch from a Samsung product to an Apple product. Samsung offers evidence that its products cater to a different part of the smartphone market than the Apple iPhone because the products have different operating systems." (page 31)
See, there you go thinking again. So your idea is I innovate and you go ahead and steal all my ideas. 🙄
vitzr
macrumors 68030
Sounds like a delusional 12 year old talking about his tonka toys, having seen copies made in China.
wikus
macrumors 68000
Nightarchaon
macrumors 65816
I am an iPhone to Samsung switcher, i had a 1st gen iPhone, and a 3Gs (upgrade cycles being what they are), but was so dissatisfied with the iPhone as an actual phone, mainly due to the battery not getting through an entire work day, and certainly not getting me the 16+hrs i need between undocking in the morning and connecting up again as i go to bed that i need my "portable" device that is a tether to the world to have as a minimum without the need for extra battery packs or bulky chargers i have to carry with it.
For me the Samsung Galaxy SII lets me do everything i did on the iPhone, browse the net, read email, Facebook, twitter,watch video, listen to music on the go (even sync with iTunes with a bit of tweaking), text and , most importantly, take and make calls throughout the day without fear of battery life suddenly ending on me at 4pm.
right now, after undocking at 630am this morning, (its now 10:37 at night) my SII still has over 30% charge remaining, the 3Gs, and friends who have iPhone 4 and 4s all say they have to either minimise use, turn off wifi/bluetooth/3G and still end up having to top up charge mid afternoon 4pm-6pm ish.
However, i did not "abandon" the apple ecosystem, i have an iPad, on which my old apps all run, and as i primarily used them for lesure rather than work, do that on the bigger screen is a blessing.
The correct assessment of the samsung and apple issue here i believe is that :
Apples iPad will cannibalise sales of the iPhone going forward, as people realise they can have the best of both worlds, the fantastic app ecosystem of apple on a large device, and a usable smart phone that lasts a full day on a single charge with another phone (be it android, Blackberry or Windows 7).
Or, alternatively, people who are happy with the iPhone and spend a lot of time in offices where they can charge from the PC they are at and don't experience the battery issue, can buy cheaper android tablets or more functional android/windows convergence devices like netbooks
obviously apple wants to stop this, so it wants its competition to not release anything that competes in either market.
Just my 2c after chatting with people who have abandoned the iPhone since the 3Gs and 4 release, and they all say the same thing as me, we don't need lightest and thinnest with a 6hr battery life, increase the thickness a little, add a little weight and give us a battery that lasts a day, could doubling the iPhones battery REALLY make it impossible to lift and so thick you can't fit it in your pocket ?!?!?!
For me the Samsung Galaxy SII lets me do everything i did on the iPhone, browse the net, read email, Facebook, twitter,watch video, listen to music on the go (even sync with iTunes with a bit of tweaking), text and , most importantly, take and make calls throughout the day without fear of battery life suddenly ending on me at 4pm.
right now, after undocking at 630am this morning, (its now 10:37 at night) my SII still has over 30% charge remaining, the 3Gs, and friends who have iPhone 4 and 4s all say they have to either minimise use, turn off wifi/bluetooth/3G and still end up having to top up charge mid afternoon 4pm-6pm ish.
However, i did not "abandon" the apple ecosystem, i have an iPad, on which my old apps all run, and as i primarily used them for lesure rather than work, do that on the bigger screen is a blessing.
The correct assessment of the samsung and apple issue here i believe is that :
Apples iPad will cannibalise sales of the iPhone going forward, as people realise they can have the best of both worlds, the fantastic app ecosystem of apple on a large device, and a usable smart phone that lasts a full day on a single charge with another phone (be it android, Blackberry or Windows 7).
Or, alternatively, people who are happy with the iPhone and spend a lot of time in offices where they can charge from the PC they are at and don't experience the battery issue, can buy cheaper android tablets or more functional android/windows convergence devices like netbooks
obviously apple wants to stop this, so it wants its competition to not release anything that competes in either market.
Just my 2c after chatting with people who have abandoned the iPhone since the 3Gs and 4 release, and they all say the same thing as me, we don't need lightest and thinnest with a 6hr battery life, increase the thickness a little, add a little weight and give us a battery that lasts a day, could doubling the iPhones battery REALLY make it impossible to lift and so thick you can't fit it in your pocket ?!?!?!
entatlrg
macrumors 68040
Sounds good to me.
I don't see any reason not to believe Steve Job's so far. Even Samsung's packaging and accessories are knock off's of Apple's hard work.
I hope Apple carries out Steve's wishes and destroys both Android and Samsung.
You can bet while Apple is litigating its innovating too while others watch and wait to copy their smart work. TV is next in line, go Apple go!
gnasher729
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That's about the most disgusting thing I have read here for a while. Since English is not my first language, and I can't find it in the dictionary, could you explain the meaning of "butthurt"? Is that something you know a lot about from personal experience?
gkpm
macrumors 6502
Sorry to sour your party, but Android natively also doesn't support xvid.
MKV support only appeared now with Android 4.0 and even then only works with Google's VP8 codec, not the widely used h.264 . It's not like it's a lot better...
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
If you go to apps - from the store or manufacturer - then iOS also has apps like AVplayerHD which play them.
kockgunner
macrumors 68000
If Apple dropped limitations, iOS will become the mess that Android is. ICS is an improvement UI wise, but people don't realize the fundamental problems of Android. It's the business model.
Fragmentation is real and it sucks for devs. People think because Android has markets that apps will work on all devices provided they have the same OS. This isn't even true due to the wide variety of Android devices, many of which don't offer improvements over previous ones. Even if you get an app to work on a certain device, not all features may work as expected. I know people who use Android to try something different, but no one I know loves it.
You don't even get timely updates unless you get a Nexus device, but then where is the choice? If you are going to use a custom ROM, then what's the difference between Android and Jailbreaking?
I'm glad Android is getting better because there is more competition, but I don't buy that people are getting iPhones because they are uneducated. Even just in my university program about design/multimedia/comp sci, the majority of people use iPhones. Being tech savvy doesn't mean you want to spend loads of time making your phone right for you. Phones are still just phones, and all these little tweaks are neat and all, but don't add much to the experience and don't make the phone much more efficient.
entatlrg
macrumors 68040
Rocketman
macrumors 603
Some here have said in effect Samsung is better in some respects, does not need Apple and besides they have a less restrictive ecosystem and hardware "limitation". Great, then can Samsung at least stop copying Apple since they don't need to, to prevail in the marketplace of adoption and market share? Please?
Just askin'
Rocketman
Apple makes vastly more profit so . . . . .
Just askin'
Rocketman
Apple makes vastly more profit so . . . . .
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adder7712
macrumors 68000
Looks like they finally admitted that.
Anyway, these two companies should stop screwing with each other and making themselves look bad.
Plus, destroying Android will be highly unrealistic. Android has exceeded iOS in terms of market share in many countries. I have an Android phone and an iPad, I'm happy with my purchases. In fact, the Galaxy S II seems to be a daily sight here. Apple should focus more on Macs now, iOS has had its day.
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That's right, if Apple doesn't sell a product that needs a particular codec they tend not to support it. It's for that reason that I think iOS/OSX is not so much about high quality as about content purchasing.
FLAC and BR offer much better quality than that available from Apple. Rather than being seen as the highest quality available from audio and video, and therefore important to discriminating consumers, they may be interpreted as competition.
I believe the spazzes might be based on the fact this user is on a Mac Fanboy site and rips both Apple, it's UI and functionality and praises Android when this article does not even, in the least, have anything to do with iOS or Android. Sure you can draw a faint line between Jobs comment about destroying Android as a reason to go after Samsung. Long story short this user really went out of their way to spazz on Mac Fanboys. The comment did not add any redeeming value to this thread.
What does that have to do with anything? It doesn't change the fact that he seriously overestimated the extent of Apple's ownership of design and technology. Yes, "delusional" is a very accurate word, regardless of anything else he did.
I think Steve was delusional. Maybe that is part of being a genius and a visionary. He did seem to have a few issues.
roadbloc
macrumors G3
Watch any mainstream tech show and this stuff is mentioned all the time. Even in the real news from time to time. Not saying it effects consumers when choosing products, but you'd have to be totally ignorant not to know that Apple like to battle it out in court.