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Specialized search engine Wolfram Alpha, one of Apple's launch partners for Siri, has partnered with Best Buy to deliver shopping results. As a result, iPhone 4S users can now search a number of products and categories from Best Buy's catalog, and get prices and descriptions returned.

From Wolfram Alpha's blog post announcing the feature:
Just in time for the holidays, we're introducing a new functionality that provides consumers with a unique approach to shopping. By leveraging data from Best Buy's public APIs, Wolfram|Alpha users will now be able to browse more than 35,000 appliances and consumer electronics products. Wolfram|Alpha's intuitive natural-language interface helps you hone in on the precise products you need, while its powerful data visualization capabilities give you an innovative overview of any shopping category.
Simply ask Siri "wolfram iPhone 4S" or "wolfram samsung television" and it quickly returns Best Buy shopping results. It's certainly not the easiest way to search Best Buy's website and occasionally returns fairly useless results, but it is another example of the potential uses for the Siri's contextual voice recognition technology.

Article Link: Wolfram Delivers Siri-Enabled Shopping Results From Best Buy
 

djgamble

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Cool, biig Wolfram fan!!
 

Ballis

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Great! Gotta love Wolfram!
 

ryanprouty

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Although I see this as pretty useless at this stage, HATS OFF for Wolfram taking some initiative and proactively adding features that will eventually be very beneficial to consumers. Great work, gentlemen.
 

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"Wolfram 'Lost credibility'"
 

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"I'm sorry, I don't understand wolf ram"

-- Siri

Ugh!!!!

I got that too. I had to say it like "wolf-rum."

I can't get it to understand stuff such as Skyrim or PlayStation 3, and it for other things, like Steve Jobs Biography, it just goes to the wrong thing, like the Wolfram page on Steve Jobs in that case. So not very useful yet.
 

JBaker122586

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I got that too. I had to say it like "wolf-rum."

I can't get it to understand stuff such as Skyrim or PlayStation 3, and it for other things, like Steve Jobs Biography, it just goes to the wrong thing, like the Wolfram page on Steve Jobs in that case. So not very useful yet.

Because "Wolf-rum" is the correct pronunciation...
 

HiRez

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Am I the only one who's not crazy about this? All of a sudden, Siri is a biased advertising machine. I understand the utility for shopping-related searches could be useful, but right now anything and everything gets funneled to Best Buy. Maybe they add more stores eventually, but who decides who gets priority? Whoever pays Wolfram the most? And are we going to see shopping related things impinge on our other searches? For example, if I ask Siri about "how to make hot chocolate", am I going to be sent to the Swiss Miss web site? If I ask for "car reviews", will I be sent to Chevy or Ford instead of actual reviews? If I ask about "Acapulco", will I get a bunch of travel and airline results? It's not much of a stretch to imagine it sliding that way over time. It could end up so it's not worth separating the signal from the noise, like how now in Google searches, you often end up with 10 pages of "BizDealsPlus" type links instead of what you were looking for.
 

rmwebs

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Given that Best Buy have just gone bust here in the UK (less than 2 years after launching), I'm guessing we wont see it working here :rolleyes:
 

rmwebs

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Lucky you. Best Buy sucks. Massive hate for that waste of oxygen.

Oh I know. They had some sweet deals when they opened to much fanfare. Got a 32" Toshiba HD TV for £179 on opening day. After that their prices were DOUBLE other high street shops. One such example was a digital camera I'd seen in another shop. It was £99 in our other electronics shops. BestBuy wanted £250 for it, and would only price match down to £150.

They deserved to fail with the crappy service they provided.

I know when I've walked into the US (Florida) BestBuy shops, I've literally had to walk around quietly saying "****** off" over and over as the dumb, knowledge-less staff started following me around.

They are/were the equivalent to our PC World shops - run by idiots, with untrained staff who are all on commission, so will lie through their teeth to get a sale.
 

dmrowley

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Not so Great...

I just tried asking about a Kindle, and got this...

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Maybe I don't want to get the wife a Kindle, it may burn the house down!
 

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JBaker122586 said:
I got that too. I had to say it like "wolf-rum."

I can't get it to understand stuff such as Skyrim or PlayStation 3, and it for other things, like Steve Jobs Biography, it just goes to the wrong thing, like the Wolfram page on Steve Jobs in that case. So not very useful yet.

Because "Wolf-rum" is the correct pronunciation...

Mmmm it works for me... which is amazing because I'm Australian and was thinking Siri would be yet another American-only feature.
 

jwhite878

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Why are some people upset about this? It just pulls the pricing data and pictures from Best Buy. It doesn't even give you a link. I think it's a pretty cool feature, and I can see it expanding in the future.
 

autrefois

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Why are some people upset about this? It just pulls the pricing data and pictures from Best Buy. It doesn't even give you a link. I think it's a pretty cool feature, and I can see it expanding in the future.

Saying "Wolfram iPhone 4S Best Buy" and getting results for Best Buy would be a cool feature. The way it is now though sounds like they're going in the wrong direction and crossing the fine line between trying to provide a service and give users info they want, and doing advertising regardless of / in spite of what the user wants.
 
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HiRez said:
Am I the only one who's not crazy about this? All of a sudden, Siri is a biased advertising machine. I understand the utility for shopping-related searches could be useful, but right now anything and everything gets funneled to Best Buy. Maybe they add more stores eventually, but who decides who gets priority? Whoever pays Wolfram the most? And are we going to see shopping related things impinge on our other searches? For example, if I ask Siri about "how to make hot chocolate", am I going to be sent to the Swiss Miss web site? If I ask for "car reviews", will I be sent to Chevy or Ford instead of actual reviews? If I ask about "Acapulco", will I get a bunch of travel and airline results? It's not much of a stretch to imagine it sliding that way over time. It could end up so it's not worth separating the signal from the noise, like how now in Google searches, you often end up with 10 pages of "BizDealsPlus" type links instead of what you were looking for.

This was my first reaction, as well. Still using the iPhone 4, but will have the next iteration. I have been very interested in Siri, but if it's engine is available for advertising I just completely LOST interest. This feels (to me) like an academic researcher suddenly getting caught taking a money from a corporate entity under the table. Once that credibility is gone, it's gone for good. Even if there's an opportunity to opt out of ad service, I'll always believe the results will be skewed towards corporate backers. Too bad. Siri seemed too good to be true.
 

bigpics

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Because "Wolf-rum" is the correct pronunciation...
Another new verb in the English language to join "xerox this" and "google that" - "wolfram left-handed basketball players in Burkina Faso"....

...and all because of their association with Apple which must have easily octupled visits to Wolfam Alpha. (I'd say more than octupled, but it's the highest verb I know for multiples of something!)

I was high on the potential of WA when it came out - and have listened to interviews with the founder - a fascinating, brilliant guy. but I found it kind of useless in practice every time I've tried it, so it had dropped off my radar even for searches where it might have been the best choice. And, though I could see academics getting some real use out of it, compared to its hype it was feeling more like the ""Segway of search." than something boding to change how the mass of people looked for things on the net.

Now its success is more or less guaranteed - Siri's use is only going to grow exponentially - and Siri and WA seem pretty hand in glove. Making the next question, now that WA is being used as a portal by hordes of mere mortals, "will success spoil Wolfram Alpha?"

Meaning all the concerns raised by HiRez here are quite real - and the most pertinent is whether WA - now more flush, visible and relevant - will now morph from a neutral research and algorithm-centric tool, to a bought and paid for funnel into sponsored buying traps.
 

Gasu E.

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Am I the only one who's not crazy about this? All of a sudden, Siri is a biased advertising machine. I understand the utility for shopping-related searches could be useful, but right now anything and everything gets funneled to Best Buy. Maybe they add more stores eventually, but who decides who gets priority? Whoever pays Wolfram the most? And are we going to see shopping related things impinge on our other searches? For example, if I ask Siri about "how to make hot chocolate", am I going to be sent to the Swiss Miss web site? If I ask for "car reviews", will I be sent to Chevy or Ford instead of actual reviews? If I ask about "Acapulco", will I get a bunch of travel and airline results? It's not much of a stretch to imagine it sliding that way over time. It could end up so it's not worth separating the signal from the noise, like how now in Google searches, you often end up with 10 pages of "BizDealsPlus" type links instead of what you were looking for.

If Siri is not useful, it won't get used.
 
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