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iMessage Bug Sends Texts to Stolen iPhones
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I've had a similar thing with my phone - I bought it with a new SIM then used a PAC code to port my old number over (UK).
If my iphone decides to iMessage someone, it'll use the number that came with the phone. If it sends a regular text, it uses my ported number! If anyone rings or texts either number it will come through to me, but my number varies when I ring out.
Any help on resolving this would be VERY greatly appreciated....
If my iphone decides to iMessage someone, it'll use the number that came with the phone. If it sends a regular text, it uses my ported number! If anyone rings or texts either number it will come through to me, but my number varies when I ring out.
Any help on resolving this would be VERY greatly appreciated....
Happy to see this issue get some media attention. I've seen enough reports on MacRumors forums to know it is a problem that Apple needs to address. I'm just surprised that they didn't anticipate the issue of stolen and sold phones when building iMessage in the first place.
yes that's correct. the moment you insert the sim card, you're screwed. which is stupid really.
Yes, assuming you are dealing with a nice, cooperative thief willing to do that for you after he's stolen your phone.
Well if that is the case... of course it has to be fixed...
But this could be awesome for stolen phones. If iMessage is linked to the UUID Apple could create database of stolen phones and
a) send out iMessages/texts "This phone is stolen" etc
b) Deny service
I do think that it's something apple could allow - continue to track a stolen phone even if it's been wiped.
It would need a transfer of ownership online form if you sell it or recycle it. Like with a car.
But this could be awesome for stolen phones. If iMessage is linked to the UUID Apple could create database of stolen phones and
a) send out iMessages/texts "This phone is stolen" etc
b) Deny service
I do think that it's something apple could allow - continue to track a stolen phone even if it's been wiped.
It would need a transfer of ownership online form if you sell it or recycle it. Like with a car.
Its absolutely astonishing that Apple released something without thinking of the consequences of the slight off-chance that people may change phones. Honestly, does nobody think of these things ?
Its like the antenna thing last year. The test phones worked great on campus where there is a great signal. Did nobody think to test them elsewhere ?
It makes you wonder what the thousands of people who work there actually do all day.
Its like the antenna thing last year. The test phones worked great on campus where there is a great signal. Did nobody think to test them elsewhere ?
It makes you wonder what the thousands of people who work there actually do all day.
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People will just sweep this stuff under the rug again and forget about it. It's Apple that we are talking about and can do no wrong. LOL
People will just sweep this stuff under the rug again and forget about it. It's Apple that we are talking about and can do no wrong. LOL
I'm sure they did think about that, and I'm sure they did also test the phones outside of campus.. otherwise how did one get 'found/stolen'?? There is just perhaps a test case that wasn't noticed during run up to the release of iMessage. It happens, it's very easy to miss something when writing apps.
I'd call this a kludge/work-acround rather than a solution. For many reasons some people go to great lengths to maintain their phone number(s).
I'd try again in a couple of days - Apple's fake cloud is having problems due to them cocking up the global release of iTunes Match. Not sure if iMessage runs on the same servers (you would assume so) however.
Just because you don't know doesn't mean it's incorrect. a simple google search would give you your much needed answers...
You ever bother to turn iMessage off on the iPhone? When I do that, I no longer get iMessages to that phone number. I hop between phones many times a week, and use iMessage on the iPhone when I use it, and have never had an issue with that.
My iPhone4 got stolen, I've reported to every single authority. Nobody did care! In Europe networks ban the stolen phone's IMEI, that's it, no resale value left!
Really?
Not where I am from in Europe, they just don't seem to care.
Edit : Oh, and there is Ebay, easy to sell it around the world.
Not that I agree with that.
iMessage is proving to be a real piece of s*. Messages are sometimes delayed for 15 min or more, and you receive them in batches. Pictures don't get sent correctly. The sync between the iMessage on an iPhone and the same iMessage on an iPad is completely ****ed up. Sometimes you receive messages on the iPad and got to wait 20 min till they appear on the iPhone. You have to turn off iMessage on your iPad if you want to receive messages on your iPhone at the correct instant and not 20 minutes later. Sometimes the same thing happens, but this time the roles are switched: the message is received on the iPhone first and 20 minutes later on the iPad... Man... Feels like I want to switch to Blackberry again now that they are starting to catch up thanks to their new Bold and Torch... or even switch to Android: a platform that has caught up and stepped on Apple to be at the front of the industry.
I'd also like to know if you can keep requesting a remote wipe - ie. keep erasing the stolen phone over and over again to cause maximum inconvenience for the undeserving new 'owner'.
This used to happen with Sprint
When I used to have Sprint as a carrier, when I got new phones, my old phones would continue to get my text messages. I don't recall if they ever stopped because I sold them or turned them off (or had to return them if it was a drop ship / warranty issue).
I just always thought it was weird (i.e. makes no sense!), that the database continued to remember the old device AND the new one....
Gary
When I used to have Sprint as a carrier, when I got new phones, my old phones would continue to get my text messages. I don't recall if they ever stopped because I sold them or turned them off (or had to return them if it was a drop ship / warranty issue).
I just always thought it was weird (i.e. makes no sense!), that the database continued to remember the old device AND the new one....
Gary
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This angle doesn't take identity theft or gathering of other personal information into account. I assume that's a bad thing? After all there is no control of which messages they get, presumably all of them. Which means any family or friends silly enough to message you something critical it can be acquired by the theif.
Also I would like to know why it sounds like the "new owner" at the end of tharticle sounds justified his annoyance. Or did I get the wrong tone?
This angle doesn't take identity theft or gathering of other personal information into account. I assume that's a bad thing? After all there is no control of which messages they get, presumably all of them. Which means any family or friends silly enough to message you something critical it can be acquired by the theif.
Also I would like to know why it sounds like the "new owner" at the end of tharticle sounds justified his annoyance. Or did I get the wrong tone?
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ATT And Apple allowing stollen iPhones to to put back on the network Sad but True
Whats really sad is that 99.9% of the cellphone users that have an iPhone stolen doesn't know that the stollen phone can be put back on the network, activated and is being used by someone else (ATT and Apple are making money off of your stollen phone) This happened to me, I filed a police report and spoke to Apple and ATT both and was told that the stollen iPhone
Was Not put on the Blacklist so it could not be used on the network anymore. The detective said that they could easily idetify if the the phone was back on the network from its imei#, but that they could not do so unless there was an investigation and that the iPhone could be used to solve a more serious crime. It seems that what ATT and Apple are allowing to happen is definatly a crime.
I even had an person at ATT tell me that when she first went to work for ATT that in one of her first staff meetings this stolen phone blacklist was brought up and they were told that this blacklist is no longer used. She has worked in other cell companys for years and the blacklist was always used to keep stollen phones from ever being used on the network again.What I think is Really insane is that when anyone activates an iPhone on iTunes or a person does this in the store, why doesn't ATT or Apples system see the
imei# as stollen and stop it from being used. I will tell you why more$$$$
Sad Stuff
This is from Wiki site
The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used for stopping a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "blacklist" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless on that network and sometimes other networks too, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed.
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ATT And Apple allowing stollen iPhones to to put back on the network
ATT And Apple allowing stollen iPhones to to put back on the network
Whats really sad is that 99.9% of the cellphone users that have an iPhone stolen doesn't know that there stollen iPhone can be put back on the network, activated and is being used by someone else (ATT and Apple are making money off of your stollen phone) This happened to me, I filed a police report and spoke to Apple and ATT both and was told that the stollen iPhone
Was Not put on the Blacklist so it could not be used on the network anymore. The detective said that they could easily idetify if the the phone was back on the network from its imei#, but that they could not do so unless there was an investigation and that the iPhone could be used to solve a more serious crime. It seems that what ATT and Apple are allowing to happen is definatly a crime.
I even had an person at ATT tell me that when she first went to work for ATT that in one of her first staff meetings this stolen phone blacklist was brought up and they were told that this blacklist is no longer used. She has worked in other cell companys for years and the blacklist was always used to keep stollen phones from ever being used on the network again.What I think is Really insane is that when anyone activates an iPhone on iTunes or a person does this in the store, why doesn't ATT or Apples system see the
imei# as stollen and stop it from being used. I will tell you why more$$$$
Sad Stuff
This is how Suppose to work.
This is from Wiki site
The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used for stopping a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "blacklist" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless on that network and sometimes other networks too, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed.
Whats really sad is that 99.9% of the cellphone users that have an iPhone stolen doesn't know that the stollen phone can be put back on the network, activated and is being used by someone else (ATT and Apple are making money off of your stollen phone) This happened to me, I filed a police report and spoke to Apple and ATT both and was told that the stollen iPhone
Was Not put on the Blacklist so it could not be used on the network anymore. The detective said that they could easily idetify if the the phone was back on the network from its imei#, but that they could not do so unless there was an investigation and that the iPhone could be used to solve a more serious crime. It seems that what ATT and Apple are allowing to happen is definatly a crime.
I even had an person at ATT tell me that when she first went to work for ATT that in one of her first staff meetings this stolen phone blacklist was brought up and they were told that this blacklist is no longer used. She has worked in other cell companys for years and the blacklist was always used to keep stollen phones from ever being used on the network again.What I think is Really insane is that when anyone activates an iPhone on iTunes or a person does this in the store, why doesn't ATT or Apples system see the
imei# as stollen and stop it from being used. I will tell you why more$$$$
Sad Stuff
This is from Wiki site
The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used for stopping a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "blacklist" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless on that network and sometimes other networks too, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed.
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ATT And Apple allowing stollen iPhones to to put back on the network
ATT And Apple allowing stollen iPhones to to put back on the network
Whats really sad is that 99.9% of the cellphone users that have an iPhone stolen doesn't know that there stollen iPhone can be put back on the network, activated and is being used by someone else (ATT and Apple are making money off of your stollen phone) This happened to me, I filed a police report and spoke to Apple and ATT both and was told that the stollen iPhone
Was Not put on the Blacklist so it could not be used on the network anymore. The detective said that they could easily idetify if the the phone was back on the network from its imei#, but that they could not do so unless there was an investigation and that the iPhone could be used to solve a more serious crime. It seems that what ATT and Apple are allowing to happen is definatly a crime.
I even had an person at ATT tell me that when she first went to work for ATT that in one of her first staff meetings this stolen phone blacklist was brought up and they were told that this blacklist is no longer used. She has worked in other cell companys for years and the blacklist was always used to keep stollen phones from ever being used on the network again.What I think is Really insane is that when anyone activates an iPhone on iTunes or a person does this in the store, why doesn't ATT or Apples system see the
imei# as stollen and stop it from being used. I will tell you why more$$$$
Sad Stuff
This is how Suppose to work.
This is from Wiki site
The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used for stopping a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "blacklist" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless on that network and sometimes other networks too, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed.