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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:25 AM   #1
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Apple Reportedly Settles Multi-Touch Patent Lawsuit from Elan for $5 Million






Reuters reports that Taiwanese company Elan Microelectronics has issued a statement announcing the settlement of a patent infringement dispute with Apple regarding multi-touch technology. According to Elan, Apple has agreed to pay $5 million and the two companies will cross-license certain patents to avoid future issues related to the intellectual property in question.
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Elan Microelectronics Corp, a Taiwanese touch design company, said on Thursday that Apple Inc will pay $5 million as part of a settlement in a patent infringement case.

The statement said the two companies would also exchange authorizations to use each other's patents.
The patent dispute between the two companies dates back to 2009, when Elan sued Apple over alleged infringement of a patent related to the detection of multiple-finger input as on the company's iOS devices, notebooks, and several accessories. Apple had also counter-sued Elan in 2009 in an attempt to gain leverage in the dispute.

Elan turned to the U.S. International Trade Commission in 2010, seeking a ban on imports of Apple's products, but the ITC ruled in Apple's favor last year.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Settles Multi-Touch Patent Lawsuit from Elan for $5 Million
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:28 AM   #2
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When will Google settle copying iOS?

I wish Apple sue the hell out of Google, they stole a whole operating system.

This is what makes all these small lawsuits a joke, Apple have had their iOS inside developers taken by Google in 2006 and all of a sudden, Android looked like iOS copy rather than Blackberry copy.

GO AFTER THE THIEVES APPLE - GOOGLE

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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:29 AM   #3
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Not knowing the details or depths of the infringement on the surface it looks like Apple got off real cheap.
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:32 AM   #4
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The funny thing is that if droid fans saw this, they would say that apple is a copy cat
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:34 AM   #5
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Tim Cook: Hey Scott, we're settling with Elan. It's for 5 million. Have you got any change on you?

Scott Forstall: Uh yeah, just hang on a sec. I think I had a few mil on me when I went to get coffee this morning. *fishes around in his pocket* Ok, here's around 4. Bum the rest off Jony.

Tim Cook: k.
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:39 AM   #6
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Tim Cook: Hey Scott, we're settling with Elan. It's for 5 million. Have you got any change on you?

Scott Forstall: Uh yeah, just hang on a sec. I think I had a few mil on me when I went to get coffee this morning. *fishes around in his pocket* Ok, here's around 4. Bum the rest off Jony.

Tim Cook: k.
How much would it cost for Google to settle with Apple for the theft of a rather **** copy of iOS?
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:40 AM   #7
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When will Google settle copying iOS?

I wish Apple sue the hell out of Google, they stole a whole operating system.

This is what makes all these small lawsuits a joke, Apple have had their iOS inside developers taken by Google in 2006 and all of a sudden, Android looked like iOS copy rather than Blackberry copy.

GO AFTER THE THIEVES APPLE - GOOGLE

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Well it's pretty obvious, first it was intended as a BB ripoff, then as an iphone ripoff.
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:43 AM   #8
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When will Google settle copying iOS?

I wish Apple sue the hell out of Google, they stole a whole operating system.

This is what makes all these small lawsuits a joke, Apple have had their iOS inside developers taken by Google in 2006 and all of a sudden, Android looked like iOS copy rather than Blackberry copy.

GO AFTER THE THIEVES APPLE - GOOGLE

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I'm no fan of Android, but that screen on the right looks nothing like Apple's screen on the left. In fact, it looks more like something derived from Microsoft Windows. It's just a bunch of ugly file folders. What does this have to do with Apple's iOS or its interface? While Apple may have been the first to implement a file folder interface in a mass consumer device in the Mac (licensed from Xerox PARC), they don't own the concept of a UI featuring file folders. They lost that lawsuit with Microsoft years ago.

And your comparison is unfair anyway since the first display you show is a browser and the screens below are the UI of the device. Big difference.
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Old Jan 5, 2012, 08:48 AM   #9
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I suspect the $5M was a token to cover the legal costs. The real win was for Elan getting rights to Apples Patent arsenal. This isn't that great for Apple if Elan decides to make computers, phones, televisions, software, etc.
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How much would it cost for Google to settle with Apple for the theft of a rather **** copy of iOS?
You really have an axe to grind here. How does this affect you in any conceivable way?

Anyways, this is pocket change for Apple and glad they got things sorted out.
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I'm no fan of Android, but that screen on the right looks nothing like Apple's screen on the left. In fact, it looks more like something derived from Microsoft Windows. It's just a bunch of ugly file folders. What does this have to do with Apple's iOS or its interface? While Apple may have been the first to implement a file folder interface in a mass consumer device in the Mac (licensed from Xerox PARC), they don't own the concept of a UI featuring file folders. They lost that lawsuit with Microsoft years ago.

And your comparison is unfair anyway since the first display you show is a browser and the screens below are the UI of the device. Big difference.
I think that interface was a creation of HTC. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The photo of that phone may have been a bad choice made by the poster, as it doesn't prove the point.

I have seen other Android phones that do look almost identical to the iPhone in the UI. And no need to mention Samsung... We already know.
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When will Google settle copying iOS?

I wish Apple sue the hell out of Google, they stole a whole operating system.

This is what makes all these small lawsuits a joke, Apple have had their iOS inside developers taken by Google in 2006 and all of a sudden, Android looked like iOS copy rather than Blackberry copy.

GO AFTER THE THIEVES APPLE - GOOGLE

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Please stop posting this over and over again. Just link to where you've made this point before.
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I suspect the $5M was a token to cover the legal costs. The real win was for Elan getting rights to Apples Patent arsenal. This isn't that great for Apple if Elan decides to make computers, phones, televisions, software, etc.
I'm betting that there is provisions for that in their agreement.
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How much would it cost for Google to settle with Apple for the theft of a rather **** copy of iOS?
What in Android actually belongs to Google? That's the question, and the issue hasn't been scrutinized. Yet.
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[QUOTE=zoetmb;14112256]I'm no fan of Android, but that screen on the right looks nothing like Apple's screen on the left. In fact, it looks more like something derived from Microsoft Windows. It's just a bunch of ugly file folders. What does this have to do with Apple's iOS or its interface? While Apple may have been the first to implement a file folder interface in a mass consumer device in the Mac (licensed from Xerox PARC), they don't own the concept of a UI featuring file folders. They lost that lawsuit with Microsoft years ago.

actually there was a deal which Xerox PARC agreed to in 1979 that in return for apple shares they would disclose all new ideas including the GUI concept. which bagged Xerox PARC at that time 17million dollers because of the apple 2

in Fact Xerox PARC had realeased a product which flopped so badly because it had cost consumer nearly $17000
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Well it's pretty obvious, first it was intended as a BB ripoff, then as an iphone ripoff.
Lol, yeah, they started copying the wrong company. BB is becoming a dinosaur, at least here in the U.S. it has already lost its momentum.
I have tried to work with a BB before, setting it up for email, and it's crap. Same with a Palm OS phone. The iPhone is as easy to configure and use as a walk in the park.
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OK, Where are the Apple supports saying that the poor innovator Apple is getting TOTALLY SCREWED for something that wasn't even close to the same thing. Where are the Apple people saying, WTF, you can't patent FINGERZZZZ. GOD patented FINGERZ. HERP DERP ELAN. WTF ELAN: Shut up and innovata-compete!

And where are the Elan supporters going. ZOMG WTF APPLE WHY U COPY MY BRAND? JUST LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE:


Apple 1811


ELAN 1812


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You really have an axe to grind here. How does this affect you in any conceivable way?

Anyways, this is pocket change for Apple and glad they got things sorted out.
Well, my buddy Small White Car has over a million shares in Apple for a start.
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Cool story bro

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I suspect the $5M was a token to cover the legal costs. The real win was for Elan getting rights to Apples Patent arsenal. This isn't that great for Apple if Elan decides to make computers, phones, televisions, software, etc.
Likely they have mutual patents (i.e. Apple need's Elan's and Elan needs Apple's). This is a no-brainer deal for Apple and a decent deal for Elan. They aren't a competitive threat to Apple, but in the meantime both companies can just move on.
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Well, my buddy Small White Car has over a million shares in Apple for a start.
Odly enough this makes no sense and you didn't even answer my question.
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When will Google settle copying iOS?

I wish Apple sue the hell out of Google, they stole a whole operating system.

This is what makes all these small lawsuits a joke, Apple have had their iOS inside developers taken by Google in 2006 and all of a sudden, Android looked like iOS copy rather than Blackberry copy.

GO AFTER THE THIEVES APPLE - GOOGLE

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And in the next installment of your fact-ignoring posts, you will tell us what Apple infringing on somebody else's multi-touch patent has anything to do with Android and iOS. Or why the HARDWARE of an old prototype Android phone looking like an old Blackberry phone is in any way related to this article. You're just trying to divert the attention away from the fact that Apple stole somebody else's ideas, and that, of course, is something that just cannot be.

But it's actually quite interesting that the "boy, have we patented it" company does not even own a patent that is at the very core of the user experience of their "revolutionary" product line...

You know, putting technologies that OTHERS invented into a nicely designed case and adding some pretty graphics design on top of an Open Source operating system foundation (FreeBSD) doesn't make you the mother of all inventions, no matter how much money you burn in marketing campaigns.

This is just one of the many cases where Apple clearly stole from a much smaller company, only this time they had to pay a small speeding ticket for it. Usually, the smaller companies that get ripped off by Apple don't get so lucky since they can't afford to pay the IP lawyers that they would need to defend their interests.
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If Small White Car had over a million shares he'd be Fast Red Lamborghini.
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Likely they have mutual patents (i.e. Apple need's Elan's and Elan needs Apple's). This is a no-brainer deal for Apple and a decent deal for Elan. They aren't a competitive threat to Apple, but in the meantime both companies can just move on.
Yeah it seems that way to me too. The whole company is valued at $165M USD ( if I did my conversaion from NTD correctly ... they're around $5B NTD )
so it would seem that it would be in Elan's best interest to look for future partnerships either directly with APple or with 3rd party peripheral companies.
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