HzO 'Talking to Apple' About Water Blocking Technology for Future iPhones - Page 2

daxomni · Jan 16, 2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by iSee

Apple's partners keep their mouths shut. HzO surely knows this. So this sounds like a desperate ploy to get attention from other manufacturers.

What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?

DavidLeblond · Jan 16, 2012, 10:35 AM

Can I get just enough to apply to the moisture detection strip of my iPhone?

Primejimbo · Jan 16, 2012, 10:36 AM

This is a great idea, BUT I can see the posts "I can't replace my iPhone battery without damaging the waterproofing coating &*%!@ APPLE!!!"

Thunderhawks · Jan 16, 2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyRond

Cool as this technology may be, there will most certainly be people who consider charging your electronic device in the bathtub is a safe thing to do...

Maybe something the tech companies should also take into account...

By Darwin's law they are not meant to be on this planet!

cere · Jan 16, 2012, 10:39 AM

Why would Apple (or anyone else) go with this now from HZO when so many other companies have been demonstrating it for years? IS HZO's tech somehow different?

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.

applephanatic · Jan 16, 2012, 10:45 AM

Now my fish can play angry birds, while rocking out to Fish!

WoFat · Jan 16, 2012, 10:46 AM

Finally... a way for me to make toast while showering.

slrandall · Jan 16, 2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cere

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.

They'd probably have to upgrade their cords as well, making it explicitly clear to people to use only the new cord with the new device. 3rd-party manufacturers would love this, because then everyone with the new device would need new stuff.

ArchaicRevival · Jan 16, 2012, 10:49 AM

That is sick!!! How's the HzO stock doin'?

dakwar · Jan 16, 2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cere

Why would Apple (or anyone else) go with this now from HZO when so many other companies have been demonstrating it for years? IS HZO's tech somehow different?

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.

Induction charging (as happens in my toothbrush right now) would protect against such shocks. But yeah, induction charging wouldn't protect when needing to transfer data via cable (the 30-pin dock and such).

Consultant · Jan 16, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidLeblond

Can I get just enough to apply to the moisture detection strip of my iPhone?

That's not the only indicator of water damage. They can also tell by corrosion as result of water damage.

gnasher729 · Jan 16, 2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by daxomni

What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?

The argument seems to be that Apple really, really, really hates it when anyone talks about future Apple products, apparently to the point where they changed which graphics cards they used in a product when the company in question proudly announced their product would be used. (One of NVidia and AMD was the victim, and one the beneficiary, can't remember which one).

If this is correct, then there would be one company where we could be sure that Apple won't use them, and that would be HZO. And a ploy that destroys your chances to ever have a deal with one of the largest phone manufacturers would have to be desperate.

vrDrew · Jan 16, 2012, 10:59 AM

Is it really that difficult for people to avoid dropping their iPhone in the toilet?

I guess so. But honestly, what has happened to our society where so many people to try and make things idiot-proof? Is this a subconscious admission that they really are stupid?

Nothing comes without cost. I'm sure that the HzO process costs something (a few cents per application) - to say nothing about the "known unknowns" of environmental damage, heat retention, performance losses, etc. And lets also face up to the fact that this isn't going to make the phone "waterproof" - it certainly isn't going to protect a phone that gets dropped in a swimming pool or goes through a hot-wash cycle.

Why should every iPhone owner have to pay this price, just to make things easier for those klutzes and airheads who can't exercise the minimal amount of care necessary to avoid immersing their mobile phone?

paj · Jan 16, 2012, 11:02 AM

Toshiba have already done this with their Windows Phone 7 handset.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First...-IS12T_id20673

Les Kern · Jan 16, 2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AppleScruff1

This sounds like it will be a step above the current Droid Razr's water resistance.

speaking of that, that is one hell of a phone.

Schtumple · Jan 16, 2012, 11:09 AM

Whilst this is cool and all, I doubt it'll actually change anything, Apple will undoubtably still have those little pink stickers that get set off by humid conditions

Jelite · Jan 16, 2012, 11:12 AM

Neverwet Superhydrophobic spray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq0bha101AQ

and on fabrics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlgnw4PrqM8

applefanDrew · Jan 16, 2012, 11:14 AM

No more carrying around sandwich bags on rainy days!

iSee · Jan 16, 2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by daxomni

What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?

Desperate because they are trading an important potential customer for attention. The attention is fleeting but Apple will most likely never consider partnering with HzO.

Why do that unless you need a customer now?

sevimli · Jan 16, 2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lifeinhd

Unfortunately, Apple would rather you just buy a new phone if you get yours wet

This!

The nano coating out there for almost 4 years now, why would a company cut its revenue with this technology???

Sad but true...

doctor-don · Jan 16, 2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dgree03

Why wait?

http://www.liquipel.com/

Its already being done, I am going to send my wifes phone to try it out! Women who put phones in their back pocket, then us the bathroom, guess where the phone ends up?

WHAT back pocket? Women?

Krazy Bill · Jan 16, 2012, 11:22 AM

Good. But who is going to fish it out of the crapper?

marcusj0015 · Jan 16, 2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dakwar

Induction charging (as happens in my toothbrush right now) would protect against such shocks. But yeah, induction charging wouldn't protect when needing to transfer data via cable (the 30-pin dock and such).

Induction charging could sync data as well, a certain magnetic pulse is a 1 a different magnetic pulse is a 0, all they'd need is a kext.

doctor-don · Jan 16, 2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sevimli

This!

The nano coating out there for almost 4 years now, why would a company cut its revenue with this technology???

Sad but true...

Why would a company alienate its customers by NOT offering protection from water - sweat, rain, dropping in water?

Motorola's Droid RAZR is being advertised as repelling water NOW.

Skika · Jan 16, 2012, 11:25 AM

MacBooks need this as well!!!!!!!

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