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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:32 AM   #26
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Apple's partners keep their mouths shut. HzO surely knows this. So this sounds like a desperate ploy to get attention from other manufacturers.
What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:35 AM   #27
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Can I get just enough to apply to the moisture detection strip of my iPhone?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:36 AM   #28
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This is a great idea, BUT I can see the posts "I can't replace my iPhone battery without damaging the waterproofing coating &*%!@ APPLE!!!"
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:39 AM   #29
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Cool as this technology may be, there will most certainly be people who consider charging your electronic device in the bathtub is a safe thing to do...

Maybe something the tech companies should also take into account...
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:39 AM   #30
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Why would Apple (or anyone else) go with this now from HZO when so many other companies have been demonstrating it for years? IS HZO's tech somehow different?

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:45 AM   #31
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:46 AM   #32
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:48 AM   #33
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One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.
They'd probably have to upgrade their cords as well, making it explicitly clear to people to use only the new cord with the new device. 3rd-party manufacturers would love this, because then everyone with the new device would need new stuff.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:49 AM   #34
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That is sick!!! How's the HzO stock doin'?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:51 AM   #35
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Why would Apple (or anyone else) go with this now from HZO when so many other companies have been demonstrating it for years? IS HZO's tech somehow different?

One concern might be problems during charging. Someone dips the phone in a tub and it works great. Then takes that still wet phone and connects it to their charger, which may or may not be protected as well. Now you have a short and fire/electrocution hazard? I honestly don't know and am asking.
Induction charging (as happens in my toothbrush right now) would protect against such shocks. But yeah, induction charging wouldn't protect when needing to transfer data via cable (the 30-pin dock and such).
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:53 AM   #36
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Can I get just enough to apply to the moisture detection strip of my iPhone?
That's not the only indicator of water damage. They can also tell by corrosion as result of water damage.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:56 AM   #37
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What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?
The argument seems to be that Apple really, really, really hates it when anyone talks about future Apple products, apparently to the point where they changed which graphics cards they used in a product when the company in question proudly announced their product would be used. (One of NVidia and AMD was the victim, and one the beneficiary, can't remember which one).

If this is correct, then there would be one company where we could be sure that Apple won't use them, and that would be HZO. And a ploy that destroys your chances to ever have a deal with one of the largest phone manufacturers would have to be desperate.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 10:59 AM   #38
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Is it really that difficult for people to avoid dropping their iPhone in the toilet?

I guess so. But honestly, what has happened to our society where so many people to try and make things idiot-proof? Is this a subconscious admission that they really are stupid?

Nothing comes without cost. I'm sure that the HzO process costs something (a few cents per application) - to say nothing about the "known unknowns" of environmental damage, heat retention, performance losses, etc. And lets also face up to the fact that this isn't going to make the phone "waterproof" - it certainly isn't going to protect a phone that gets dropped in a swimming pool or goes through a hot-wash cycle.

Why should every iPhone owner have to pay this price, just to make things easier for those klutzes and airheads who can't exercise the minimal amount of care necessary to avoid immersing their mobile phone?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:02 AM   #39
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Toshiba have already done this with their Windows Phone 7 handset.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First...-IS12T_id20673
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:03 AM   #40
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This sounds like it will be a step above the current Droid Razr's water resistance.
speaking of that, that is one hell of a phone.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:09 AM   #41
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Whilst this is cool and all, I doubt it'll actually change anything, Apple will undoubtably still have those little pink stickers that get set off by humid conditions
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:12 AM   #42
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:15 AM   #44
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What exactly makes this "desperate" rather than just a normal ploy?
Desperate because they are trading an important potential customer for attention. The attention is fleeting but Apple will most likely never consider partnering with HzO.

Why do that unless you need a customer now?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:15 AM   #45
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Unfortunately, Apple would rather you just buy a new phone if you get yours wet
This!

The nano coating out there for almost 4 years now, why would a company cut its revenue with this technology???

Sad but true...
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:22 AM   #46
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Why wait?

http://www.liquipel.com/

Its already being done, I am going to send my wifes phone to try it out! Women who put phones in their back pocket, then us the bathroom, guess where the phone ends up?
WHAT back pocket? Women?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:22 AM   #47
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Good. But who is going to fish it out of the crapper?
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:23 AM   #48
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Induction charging (as happens in my toothbrush right now) would protect against such shocks. But yeah, induction charging wouldn't protect when needing to transfer data via cable (the 30-pin dock and such).
Induction charging could sync data as well, a certain magnetic pulse is a 1 a different magnetic pulse is a 0, all they'd need is a kext.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:24 AM   #49
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This!

The nano coating out there for almost 4 years now, why would a company cut its revenue with this technology???

Sad but true...
Why would a company alienate its customers by NOT offering protection from water - sweat, rain, dropping in water?

Motorola's Droid RAZR is being advertised as repelling water NOW.
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