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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro X with Multicam Support, Advanced Chroma Keying, and XML Support
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Thing is for how long they took with FCPX there was uncertainty on when they would actually bring those features back, and they still don't have feature parity with FCP7.
For how long they took it was appalling that it was iMovie pro and not what was expected.
The term Professional has changed so much over the years.
Back in the day, I frowned upon the web video folks and now Im actually competing with some locally for work.
Sure my facility has everything from XDCAMS to RED MX but some dude with a Canon XL-1 can easily do just as well as long their work is good.
I respect that 🙂
ok now
I am a editor for NBC and other cable networks and it doesn't matter what I edit with I adapt . I haven't been using FINAL CUT X a lot but I use FINAL CUT 7 with no issues and I also work with premiere and avid . If you are a good editor you can work with most any program so stop the whining and learn how to edit !
I am a editor for NBC and other cable networks and it doesn't matter what I edit with I adapt . I haven't been using FINAL CUT X a lot but I use FINAL CUT 7 with no issues and I also work with premiere and avid . If you are a good editor you can work with most any program so stop the whining and learn how to edit !
What will apple do when they reach saturation? the consumer market apple is so in love now is not known for upgrading often, i do wonder how long they can keep sales of the iphone that high.
What keynote are you talking about?
When the software was first released there were no announcements about the future of the product. It wasn't until after the huge backlash that Apple made public statements about the future of the product, and even those were still somewhat vague about what features would return, as well as vague timelines for when it would happen.
And it didn't help matters to immediately discontinue FC7 either.
People seem to have selective memory about what actually happened when FCX was released.
Empty speculation at this point, we'll probably see an update in a few weeks along with Intel's new releases.
MovieCutter
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Any compliment from Neil deGrasse Tyson is fine by me.
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I agree. Except when the new pen doesn't use ink.
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When it pays my bills it does.
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My production house just delivered our first project completely managed with the Adobe CS suite. The project management between the director, editor, motion graphics/ compositor, color grader and sound mixer was soooooo efficiant. That's 5 people collaborating. Most $100,000+ production houses COLLABORATE and the new final cut workflow DOES NOT accommodate this.
We've heavily invested in the Adobe workflow and love it. The only thing that worries me is if we do a film. Asset management isn't quit as robust as Avid.
My production house just delivered our first project completely managed with the Adobe CS suite. The project management between the director, editor, motion graphics/ compositor, color grader and sound mixer was soooooo efficiant. That's 5 people collaborating. Most $100,000+ production houses COLLABORATE and the new final cut workflow DOES NOT accommodate this.
We've heavily invested in the Adobe workflow and love it. The only thing that worries me is if we do a film. Asset management isn't quit as robust as Avid.
chatfan
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Maybe post video links as an example of how pro you are AFTER you figured out how to keep the correct aspect ratio on YouTube? Uploading a 16x9 video in 4x3 aspect is so 1998.
and 4 days? Seriously? That looks like 40 minutes.
and 4 days? Seriously? That looks like 40 minutes.
ericmooreart
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While this is good news. My company has already migrated to Premiere. They won't switch back anytime soon. I fear this may be the case for several companies.
For my home machine I will give it a try. But I have to say I've grown to really like Premiere. Especially because I work in After effects
For my home machine I will give it a try. But I have to say I've grown to really like Premiere. Especially because I work in After effects
I don't really see any whining. I see a lot of those who say FCPX just won't work with their workflow. I also see those who love it. To each their own.
The problem is that it seems hard to engage in legitimate discussion when the Apple sycophants cry foul when pointing out even the slightest of negatives. Of course there are those on the other side, but this board breeds more of the former for obvious reasons.
Regardless, the FCPX debate is more complicated than just saying "as a quality editor you should be able to work with anything." That's obvious. The editorial process is more than the tools available. It's just that everyone doesn't have the ability to use whatever tool they want. They're bound by certain workflows, collaboration, hundreds of thousands of dollars in hardware, etc. It is a fact that FCPX is just not useable for many editors. To simply write this off as whining is just as disingenuous as those who scoff at the thought of event videographers, indie filmmakers, etc. being "pros."
And the lack of Professional Roadmap extends to hardware. No one knows if there will be another pro-level computer or what it will look like (no MacPro roadmap - computer, interconnections (Thunderbolt? FW800/1600/3200? USP3.0? eSata?), internal bus (still PCIe?). There is no roadmap for physical media (EOL for DVD SP? all virtual delivery?)
So how can a professional shop or individual plan. He he/she needs new capability now and in the coming year or so, does he train everyone for the pretty much all new FCX, or jump ship to Avid / Adobe, etc. If they are going to abandon MacPro, just tell us. Won't hurt current sales in a way Apple finds significant (otherwise, they wouldn't EOL it; if not, tell us that, too. If physical media is to be abandoned by Apple, tell us that, too. Can't hurt them if they think that media is no longer significant).
Their secrecy is just stupid in the professional arena.
Sapphire Edge
Just to add that with this release, Sapphire also released their Edge plug-in.
Its good to see other vendors trying to add to this software.
Just to add that with this release, Sapphire also released their Edge plug-in.
Its good to see other vendors trying to add to this software.
And again the same old arrogance🙄
Face it - Movies and Broadcast aren't the only areas people edit video for a living (that's what professional means).
RhymeAnimal
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkDlUhayOYo
Here's the first thing we ever cut using FCP, still ahead of the curve even in 2012. Would be happy ton answer any and all queries as to work flow & gfx integration, but I'm afraid you'd get confused.
MovieCutter
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Never said they weren't. My definition of a professional is someone who makes money and a living at their craft. I merely said all the professionals I know don't use FCP X for anything. And that's in the high end post and high end broadcast industries, where FCP X isn't ready for primetime according to those I know.
Every FCPX article turns into an e-peen contest about who has the most experience. I love it.
Wow, if you're going to look down your nose at someone, make sure your work can back up the trash talk.
Wow, if you're going to look down your nose at someone, make sure your work can back up the trash talk.
Maybe this is where the feathers get ruffled. Kinda of an elitist attitude I'm guessing.
I dont take offense to mere comments that it doesnt work.
It just bugs me at other posts where the op needs help and the trolls come out of the wood work with no help at all. Just good old bashing 😛
A few points:
1. Apple significantly lowered the costs of FCPX. FCP7 cost more and had a much more professional and robust system. Couple that with the thousands of dollars movie studios pay in licensing fees and hardware, it was a great deal of money for Apple.
2. If Apple truly wants to target a new "pro-sumer" demographic, then produce an application for that demographic. Don't revamp an already working professional application to target a different audience. Make an app targeted for the "pro-sumers" (such as the current FCPX) and keep FCP for studio houses. It wouldn't cost Apple much to produce those two segments (Apple has what, $80 billion in cash?). This would bring in money from the "pro-sumer" segment while bringing in money from the "professional" segment.
3. As mentioned, ignoring the professional market by claiming it doesn't bring in enough profit compared to the consumer market is a misnomer. Businesses and studio's may be a small market, but they are big spenders. When one business has $50-100k at least for upgrading their systems (and investing in Apple products for a long term) that adds up to a great deal.
So why leave one market for the other when consumers/prosumers and professionals can be made happy? Apple is ROLLING in cash reserves, do not tell me they cannot put even a small amount of that into revamping the professional market again. Before Intel, before the iPhone, Apple made their bank off professionals and high-end consumers. That need still exists, Apple isn't dictating market needs, they are simply ignoring one and focusing on another when they can do both. They did when Jobs came back in the late 90's and went from "red" to "black" which then propelled them into R&D for iDevices. I just don't understand why Apple believes it is one or the other, and not both.
+1. I couldn't believe or understand what I was hearing when FCP X was released. Editors all over the web were talking about how they went out that night and purchased Premier. Then Adobe and Avid ran their 50% off sales and a bunch of these guys went running with their credit cards in hand...
I do video for fun and corporate IT during the day. Only analogy I can give is enterprise software like DBMS. Let's say my firm is running Oracle 10g and Oracle releases 11 with tons of changes, some better, some worse. Guess what? We don't go out that week or month and move everything over to IBM DB2 or MS SQL Server! We wait and see. We talk to Oracle and other customers. We measure our needs over the future and plan accordingly.
I know Apple's lack of communication of road maps makes this difficult but it seems they have communicated pretty well on FCP X issues and they have delivered too.
I do video for fun and corporate IT during the day. Only analogy I can give is enterprise software like DBMS. Let's say my firm is running Oracle 10g and Oracle releases 11 with tons of changes, some better, some worse. Guess what? We don't go out that week or month and move everything over to IBM DB2 or MS SQL Server! We wait and see. We talk to Oracle and other customers. We measure our needs over the future and plan accordingly.
I know Apple's lack of communication of road maps makes this difficult but it seems they have communicated pretty well on FCP X issues and they have delivered too.
