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Congress Weighs in on iOS Apps Collecting Address Book and Other Personal Data
![]() ![]() Last week, controversy erupted when it was discovered that the popular iOS app Path was uploading users' entire address books to the company's servers without alerting users or asking for authorization. While Path quickly deleted all address book data on its servers and updated its app to make the data collection an opt-in service, the issue has cast a fresh light on user privacy issues on iOS. As noted by The Next Web, U.S. Congressmen Henry Waxman and G.K. Butterfield have now weighed on in the issue, sending a letter to Apple requesting information on the company's data collection policies it imposes on App Store developers. Quote:
It is not terribly unusual for Congress to request information from companies when issues related to consumer protection and privacy arise, and Apple was subject to a similar process when questions about location information arose last year. In that case, Senator Al Franken contacted Apple with questions about the company's policies, with executives from Apple and Google later testifying in a Senate hearing on the matter. Article Link: Congress Weighs in on iOS Apps Collecting Address Book and Other Personal Data |
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Fail.
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For the love of all things important my people's government- go work on some real fricken issues; and stay the hell out of what you have no clue about.
Oh wait...
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Hmm...I thought this was only a google problem
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This is not the first app that did this. Many freeware apps and games were Trojans collecting a lot of PIM data. One sign of this is if you are a "light" app user and you find your data usage skyrocket. Many believe this is how a lot of celebrity phones were hacked with some very personal photos getting out.
One thing that is really needed on the iOS level is a tool that lets you monitor and throttle the bandwidth usage of each app on your smartphone. There are tools for this on the PC end and on Android but I cannot find one for the iPhone. |
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I would rather have companies be given a chance to sort this out themselves than have government quickly jump on the bandwagon writing new laws. Unless they are carefully crafted (which they usually aren't), it causes more problems than it solves.
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riiiiiiight.. because a bunch of old oblivious dumbass congressmen know anything about digital privacy...
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This whole fisaco is why I like to see a list of permissions before installing an app, ala WP7/Android.
Flashlight app wants full internet access, location and contacts? No install for you! Example:
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iOS should display a request when an App requires access to user data (address book, photos, etc), anything that is external to the App itself.
Isn't that what the new App Sandboxing is about in Lion?
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If an app uploads my complete address book to their servers, which is absolutely no ****ing business of theirs, then Apple should refund the money to all purchasers, remove the app permanently, and ban the developer. There is just no excuse in the world for that.
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Another thing is that Apple can eventually provide sandboxed code to do things. For example, some code that lets the user choose a name from the address book and send an email to that person. That code would live in its little sandbox with access to address book and email. However, the rest of the application wouldn't be able to access the address book. So a game could allow you to send a picture to a friend that way, without itself being able to read your address book. Last edited by gnasher729; Feb 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM. |
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So Congress can't do their job 9 times out of 10, and the 1 time they pressure a company to answer legitimate questions regarding consumer privacy you're equally as mad?
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I don't know why an app not specifically designed to deal with my contacts would need to upload my list of contacts to anyone. It's none of their business and I don't want to unknowingly be involved in any data mining that they are doing.
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"Why hasn't Apple instituted a simple toggle setting for sharing address book information?" Our fearless leaders ask...
While that may not be an outright terrible idea, it shouldn't be necessary. Besides that, what's next? How many "simple" toggle switches will our unfailing government require to be installed on our mobile devices? What happens when a bug causes one to fail? ...Wait, clearly we can just install more toggle switches! Users can use a simple toggle switch to allow or disallow information sharing, then another simple toggle switch to allow or disallow information sharing when the first switch fails! See how simple it is? Oh thank the lord for our glorious overseers. I don't know why Apple doesn't just fire their entire software development team and replace them with congressmen. Seriously. Is there a problem here? Sure. Is there a government solution to said problem? No. Let the companies in question resolve the issue (which they have). If they still fail to do so, the market will resolve the issue as consumers will not buy products they feel compromise their privacy or security. |
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I bet Waxman and Butterfield have mistresses whose addresses they want to keep private.
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"I would rather have companies be given a chance to sort this out themselves than have government quickly jump on the bandwagon writing new laws. Unless they are carefully crafted (which they usually aren't), it causes more problems than it solves."
Yeah, like they've done a great job so far, right? The THREAT of a law should force Apple to do what they should have done in the first place, but will not do without the threat of a law. As for Congress, yes, it gets a lot wrong, but you can thank it for rivers that don't catch fire. |
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I really hope Apple does more to show what kind of data/services apps use, and give users the ability to permit/deny access.
But does the government really need to get involved in this? I believe the free market will resolve the issue by itself (i.e. Path's negative press, negative press on Apple for not catching this, etc.). |
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Why are people attacking Congressmen for being focused on issues like this? This is a serious issue and something needs to be done by Apple. Political involvment will help escalate the issue. You don't need to have a knowledge of digital security to weigh in on this issue. It's an issue of privacy.
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I think what Congress intends to do is make the "free market" fix its problems with the attention and threat of legislation.
Just leaving the "free market" to fix things was tried and is still tried. Certain things are not fixable by the free market. Adam Smith said as much in The Wealth of Nations. I realize it's politically incorrect to suggest laissez faire capitalism was not handed to us by God, but ... rivers aren't supposed to burn. |
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Considering that the trade of information is really the true business behind the internet, what politicians are trying to do here is get the public's attention to gain fame and publicity, giving the image of caring for the people.
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The company that F'd this up apologized, removed the data, and tried to make amends. I do not condone this as to be OK, but I am sick of all these media driven congressmen with a hard on lately when there are far worse privacy issues out there that need addressing.
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Thanks congress, forgot I wasn't capable of protecting myself.
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Old news?
Didn't Apple remove a couple games from the App store for doing this (uploading contacts)? Almost 2 years ago? Why and when did Apple stop removing such apps?
Or does tiny 0.0002 pt text in the 432,238,329th paragraph of the app's terms or license now allow this. |
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Just not cool, regardless of any damage.
Hope Apple does have that in its developer agreements and if yes enforce it.
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I'd like to hear the answer to the questions.
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Apple needs to be much more careful about privacy if they insist on making their iOS devices so simplistic that average Joe End User potentially has no idea what a given app is doing behind the scenes as in the Path example. We can't count on XYZ Developer being honest (and asking for permission to, e.g., scan my address book) or competent but the maintainers and enforcers of the Walled Garden certainly ought to be. We're handing off a lot of trust value to Apple to get this right.
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