Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:50 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple Seeks Bankruptcy Court's Blessing to Sue Kodak over Patents




With Kodak having filed last-minute patent lawsuits against Apple and HTC as it was heading into bankruptcy last month, Bloomberg reports that Apple is looking to assert itself against the pioneering photography company with a new lawsuit alleging infringement of Apple-held patents.




While Apple says in its filing with the bankruptcy court overseeing Kodak's case that it is not required to seek approval for a lawsuit, Apple notes that it is requesting the court's blessing "out of an abundance of caution".
Quote:
Apple Inc. asked a bankruptcy judge for permission to sue Eastman Kodak Co. over allegations it's infringing patents that Apple says cover technologies used in printers, digital cameras and digital picture frames. [...]

While arguing bankruptcy law doesn't prevent the filing of infringement suits against a company in court protection, "Apple requests express authority from this court before it initiates the actions out of an abundance of caution," the company's lawyers wrote in the filing.
In a separate case, Apple has been contending that it is the rightful owner of a patent currently held by Kodak. Apple claims that through its partnership with Kodak to produce QuickTake digital cameras during the mid-1990s, Kodak misappropriated intellectual property involved in the project and patented it for itself.




Apple QuickTake 100, manufactured by Kodak (Source: Time)
Apple last month filed a petition with Kodak's bankruptcy court requesting that Kodak not be permitted to use the disputed patent to secure loans supporting the company's restructuring until ownership of the patent is resolved. The U.S. International Trade Commission has preliminarily rejected Apple's ownership claims, but the case and a parallel federal lawsuit remain pending.

Article Link: Apple Seeks Bankruptcy Court's Blessing to Sue Kodak over Patents
MacRumors is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:53 PM   #2
Hayman1995
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Kick them when they're down.
Hayman1995 is offline   16 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:55 PM   #3
TSE
macrumors 68030
 
TSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Wow Apple.
__________________
MacBook Pro, 2.2ghz Quad-Core i7 Processor, 15" 1680x1050 Anti-Glare LCD, 8gbs of RAM, 750gb, 5400rpm HD, AMD Radeon 6750M HD, Mac OS X + Windows 7 Ultimate
TSE is offline   14 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:56 PM   #4
daverso
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
didn't Tim Cook just say they had a more cash than they need, or something like that?
daverso is offline   17 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:56 PM   #5
decimortis
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayman1995 View Post
Kick them when they're down.
I was going to post those exact 5 words.

D.
__________________
rMBP 15: 2.4GHz/8GB RAM/256GB/Mac OS X 10.9.2
Google Nexus 5: White 32GB
decimortis is offline   13 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:57 PM   #6
DerekRod
macrumors Demi-God
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NYC
Lets sue a dying corp.Lets do it for the LULZ
DerekRod is offline   7 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:58 PM   #7
wikus
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Planet earth.
That is low.

I thought with the absence of steve jobs apple would become less of a douchey company, but its actually gotten worse.

nice to see apple turn into everything it was against.

wikus is offline   15 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 12:58 PM   #8
justanothernerd
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by daverso View Post
didn't Tim Cook just say they had a more cash than they need, or something like that?
It makes sense to me -- Apple has to always maintain a strong image that they take patent litigation seriously, no matter the company involved. If other companies get the idea that they can sue apple and apple won't fight back because they have "more cash than they need", it would become a much bigger problem for them. My guess is that this is as much a defensive move as it is an offensive one.
justanothernerd is offline   8 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:00 PM   #9
spazzcat
macrumors 68000
 
spazzcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayman1995 View Post
Kick them when they're down.
They don't have the right to counter sue them just because they are in bankruptcy? We all know Apple with sue to protect their IP.
spazzcat is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:00 PM   #10
allmIne
macrumors 6502a
 
allmIne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: United Kingdom
It's as well most consumers don't give a toss about this sort of thing.

Apple would have went down in many estimations a long time ago.
allmIne is offline   10 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:01 PM   #11
guzhogi
macrumors 68020
 
guzhogi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wherever my feet take me…
At this point, why not just buy the patents out right? Note: honest question as I don't know how much they go for.
guzhogi is offline   13 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:01 PM   #12
Spock
macrumors 68000
 
Spock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Vulcan
Send a message via AIM to Spock Send a message via Yahoo to Spock
Apple should just buyout Kodak, discontinue the entire line, consume all patents and sell the name. Done.
Spock is offline   22 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:02 PM   #13
HBOC
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: PDX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayman1995 View Post
Kick them when they're down.
My first reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajrandall View Post
It makes sense to me -- Apple has to always maintain a strong image that they take patent litigation seriously, no matter the company involved. If other companies get the idea that they can sue apple and apple won't fight back because they have "more cash than they need", it would become a much bigger problem for them. My guess is that this is as much a defensive move as it is an offensive one.
This does make sense. Just because they (Kodak) filed bankruptcy doesn't negate anything.
__________________
500px
dustingentadventures.com
HBOC is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:02 PM   #14
TrentS
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Law Suits

Dang, I should have studied to become a patent attorney.


Last edited by TrentS; Feb 15, 2012 at 02:21 PM.
TrentS is offline   15 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:03 PM   #15
spazzcat
macrumors 68000
 
spazzcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by guzhogi View Post
At this point, why not just buy the patents out right? Note: honest question as I don't know how much they go for.
If the courts liquidate them, Apple will have a chance to do that, until then Apple can't just buy them.
spazzcat is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:06 PM   #16
840quadra
Moderator
 
840quadra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Free outdoor Freezers
It comes to the point where I wonder if the PR department at Apple is starting to ask for some of these Lawsuits to stop. I understand that protecting the IP is definitely important, however are they factoring in the potential cost to their public image?
840quadra is offline   10 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:07 PM   #17
bedifferent
macrumors Demi-God
 
bedifferent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY
How many lawsuits is AAPL currently juggling??? This is absurd. Having been from Rochester, NY I can tell you that the effects of Kodak's closing is horrendous on an already depressed economy. It's business, certainly, but why didn't AAPL sue before if this was an issue? Why now? Why at all???
bedifferent is offline   10 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:08 PM   #18
spazzcat
macrumors 68000
 
spazzcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by 840quadra View Post
It comes to the point where I wonder if the PR department at Apple is starting to ask for some of these Lawsuits to stop. I understand that protecting the IP is definitely important, however are they factoring in the potential cost to their public image?
I guess you didn't see their results last quarter? I would say 99% of their customers don't know or care about lawsuits...
spazzcat is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:08 PM   #19
lilsoccakid74
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
As a student who has lived his whole life in Rochester NY, location of Kodaks roots, it is sad to see this. While growing up, over half of my friends parents worked at Kodak, and my father was a Sr. Process Development Engineer for 30 years. We are the first generation from Rochester who won't be able to rely on Kodak for a career.

Let them be apple.
lilsoccakid74 is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:09 PM   #20
gnasher729
macrumors G5
 
gnasher729's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayman1995 View Post
Kick them when they're down.
I think Kodak has been suing Apple in the past, and is trying to use bankruptcy protection to avoid being countersued. In addition, if Apple does actually have the rights to this patent, then allowing Kodak to borrow money against the value of the patent, or to sell it, would create a really messy situation.
gnasher729 is offline   6 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:09 PM   #21
spazzcat
macrumors 68000
 
spazzcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6CoreWhore View Post
How many lawsuits is AAPL currently juggling??? This is absurd. Having been from Rochester, NY I can tell you that the effects of Kodak's closing is horrendous on an already depressed economy. It's business, certainly, but why didn't AAPL sue before if this was an issue? Why now? Why at all???
Has Kodak really created anything in the last 10 years???
spazzcat is offline   -5 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:09 PM   #22
jkichline
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
The reason...

The reason why Apple is asking if they can sue is because Kodak, while in bankruptcy, is still suing Apple. If you were concerned about your financial affairs, you wouldn't continue an expensive legal battle and Apple needs to defend it's patents regardless. It's just that Apple is asking if that's ok today so they are at least giving Kodak a chance to back off since they are in bankruptcy.
jkichline is offline   10 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:09 PM   #23
Sofabutt
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Send a message via ICQ to Sofabutt Send a message via Yahoo to Sofabutt Send a message via Skype™ to Sofabutt
Apple is ******** on its own good reputation.

I left microsofts windows years ago for the same bad reputation apple is earning for itself nowadays.


Looks like the future is Linux or qnx
Sofabutt is offline   -7 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:10 PM   #24
dr01dy
macrumors member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Poor Rochester.
__________________
MP 2.66 | ATIX1900 | 7GIG | 20TB |
iMac 3.4 i7 | 16GB | 3.120 TB |
dr01dy is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Feb 15, 2012, 01:11 PM   #25
emaja
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Can we change the name of this website to "AppleLawsuits.com"?

With all the litigation, I feel like it at least deserves its own sub-forum or tab at the top.

emaja is offline   14 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Apple and Google Teaming Up on $500 Million Bid for Kodak Patents MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 51 Dec 26, 2012 09:48 PM
Samsung takes LG to court to sue for OLED patents Dolorian Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices 8 Nov 20, 2012 10:14 AM
Samsung can sue Apple for LTE patents. ARSC Apple, Industry and Internet Discussion 33 Sep 1, 2012 03:16 AM
Apple, Google, and Samsung Teaming Up in Effort to Acquire Kodak Patents MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 59 Aug 19, 2012 07:46 PM
Apple and Google Lead Separate Groups in Bidding for Kodak Patents MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 117 Aug 1, 2012 09:08 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:32 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC