After Beta, Messages Will Be Exclusive to OS X Mountain Lion

MacRumors · Feb 17, 2012, 06:07 AM

Consomac has discovered that the OS X Lion Messages Beta that was released yesterday will not be a permanent feature for Lion users. Messages is the new iMessage-compatible version of iChat that will be included in OS X Mountain Lion. Apple also released a public beta version for OS X Lion users to try the app in the meanwhile.

Based on the text strings found in the App's resources, it has been revealed that Messages will no longer be available for Lion users once the beta expires. Instead, Apple tells users to visit the App Store to purchase OS X Mountain Lion to continue to use Messages:

Quote:

Thank you for participating in the Messages Beta program. With the inclusion of Messages in OS X Mountain Lion, the Messages Beta program has ended.

To continue using Messages, please visit the Mac App Store and purchase OS X Mountain Lion.

OS X Mountain Lion will be a paid update and is expected to be released in late summer.

Article Link: After Beta, Messages Will Be Exclusive to OS X Mountain Lion

miles01110 · Feb 17, 2012, 06:08 AM

Unfortunate, but not unexpected. Google Voice it is!

alex00100 · 06:16 AM

but c'mon who isnt going to upgrade?

(if you dont have an integrated video a few years old...)

MacRumorUser · Feb 17, 2012, 06:12 AM

Clever marketing. Get people using the beta, get people to upgrade to ML. Though I also suspect the folks who are reading this and downloading a beta would be upgrading to ML anyway...

m2uk · Feb 17, 2012, 06:12 AM

A stupid, artificial bad move from Apple. Or at least make iChat able to send the iMessages, even if you cannot use whatever the latest whizzy feature is.

CplBadboy · Feb 17, 2012, 06:13 AM

Damn you Apple. I love your products but unbelievable greed excretes form every pore of you. If it isn't bad enough that my 2007 blackbook won't run Mountain Lion you now are denying your faithful customers useful features. Listen i can't afford a nice shiny new Mac to have this feature, so how about you cut the little guy some slack and make this available to all.

Calidude · Feb 17, 2012, 06:15 AM

This is only surprising to Apple loyalists who think Apple makes the grass grow.

Aniday · Feb 17, 2012, 06:16 AM

Kinda sucks considering they replaced iChat. Will they have to push an update to Lion users to rip them off of an update? wtf

Bodypainter · Feb 17, 2012, 06:17 AM

This Is The side about Apple that i don't like at all. They are artificially limiting The User and know that this Is how they can Pressure him to Upgrade. it's incredible that such behaviour would lead to People hating Microsoft if they die that, but Apple Fans so Not speak up against it and 'swallow' this unfaithful Trick against Apples own customers.

igazza · Feb 17, 2012, 06:18 AM

Should we expect ML to be the same price as lion ?

Aniday · Feb 17, 2012, 06:20 AM

They're encouraging piracy with this, really. No computer savvy person would put up with this enough to pay over 15 bucks for this update.

String · Feb 17, 2012, 06:22 AM

Some people who can use Lion but can't go up to ML, gma users, might be annoyed.

ouimetnick · Feb 17, 2012, 06:24 AM

I was thinking after beta, Messages will be $0.99 for Lion users, and included with Mountain Lion. This is what they did with FaceTime.

Macintosheux · Feb 17, 2012, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aniday

Kinda sucks considering they replaced iChat. Will they have to push an update to Lion users to rip them off of an update? wtf

There is an other message in the source code giving you the option to reinstall iChat.

jwm2 · Feb 17, 2012, 06:25 AM

We don't know all the details yet. I mean a string buried in the beta version doesn't mean its a done deal. I'll reserve judgement until we know for sure.

Skoopman · Feb 17, 2012, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CplBadboy

Damn you Apple. I love your products but unbelievable greed excretes form every pore of you. If it isn't bad enough that my 2007 blackbook won't run Mountain Lion you now are denying your faithful customers useful features. Listen i can't afford a nice shiny new Mac to have this feature, so how about you cut the little guy some slack and make this available to all.

I don't know what you expected, your Macbook is 5 freaking years old, of course it can't get every shiny new OS, jeez. You can still use Snow Leopard or Lion on it, so what is the problem? I nevery understand why people are so obsessed with getting the newest software, but don't want to pay for it or upgrade their hardware. Maybe Apple knows, that Messages can't be integrated without problems in Lion, that's why it will be ML exclusive.

whooleytoo · Feb 17, 2012, 06:26 AM

Not the smartest move. The "closed garden" approach may work for a lot of things, but not for messaging where you want to be able to message all your friends/family/colleagues, not just those who are Mac users who have upgraded to Mountain Lion.

tigres · Feb 17, 2012, 06:27 AM

And to think SL was so 8 months ago.

miles01110 · Feb 17, 2012, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigres

And to think SL was so 8 months ago.

Lion?

lamboman · Feb 17, 2012, 06:31 AM

What do you expect? It was a feature marketed with Mountain Lion, if it was to be released for older operating systems, Apple would have done so through the App Store, or at least made it clear that this would be the case.

Slogan · Feb 17, 2012, 06:31 AM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9A405)

To be honest, this isn't that surprising. Personally there's no real compelling reason to upgrade to ML (yet), so they have to have 'something', right?.

djrod · Feb 17, 2012, 06:33 AM

Not fair Apple, not fair.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ouimetnick

I was thinking after beta, Messages will be $0.99 for Lion users, and included with Mountain Lion. This is what they did with FaceTime.

That, I can understand

jehrler · Feb 17, 2012, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CplBadboy

Damn you Apple. I love your products but unbelievable greed excretes form every pore of you. If it isn't bad enough that my 2007 blackbook won't run Mountain Lion you now are denying your faithful customers useful features. Listen i can't afford a nice shiny new Mac to have this feature, so how about you cut the little guy some slack and make this available to all.

I agree this is a pretty classless move if, in fact, they keep those of us with Core 2 Duo machines with integrated graphics locked out of ML.

Obviously it can work see the public beta and, just as obviously, this is not a graphics intensive app. Heck, they have a version of Messages that runs on an iPhone!

I really, really hope they rethink this and at least offer it as a .99 app on the App Store.

irishgrizzly · Feb 17, 2012, 06:35 AM

This looks like a cheap way to get people to buy ML. I wish they waited and released some real must have features, not a load of iOS baubles.

wordoflife · 06:41 AM

Just uninstalled the beta from my Mac. Didn't like it to begin with, but no point keeping it as it'll expire.

If ML is going to cost money (which it seems that it will) I certainly will be sticking to Lion. There's not a single feature that I like of ML.

Wish they put out a real OS update. Nothing big since 10.5 IMO.

10.5 - revolutionary
10.6 - fix 10.5 issues
10.7 - OK, but no "wow" factor. Launchpad as another way to access apps? Well .. okay.
10.8 - 10 new changes to Lion (so far?) Not going to pay $30 for that.

Feb 17, 2012, 06:08 AM	#2
miles01110 macrumors 604 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)	Unfortunate, but not unexpected. Google Voice it is! __________________ Got a problem? Check here first.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:10 AM	#3
alex00100 macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Moscow, Russia	but c'mon who isnt going to upgrade? (if you dont have an integrated video a few years old...) __________________ 17" MacBook Pro 2011 2.2GHz 8gb iPad 3 3G 32gb iPhone 5 16gb Last edited by alex00100; Feb 17, 2012 at 06:16 AM.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:12 AM	#4
MacRumorUser macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ireland	Clever marketing. Get people using the beta, get people to upgrade to ML. Though I also suspect the folks who are reading this and downloading a beta would be upgrading to ML anyway... __________________ A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. MacRumor:User Microsoft MVP : Macintosh
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:17 AM	#9
Bodypainter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007	This Is The side about Apple that i don't like at all. They are artificially limiting The User and know that this Is how they can Pressure him to Upgrade. it's incredible that such behaviour would lead to People hating Microsoft if they die that, but Apple Fans so Not speak up against it and 'swallow' this unfaithful Trick against Apples own customers.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:18 AM	#10
igazza macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: earth	Should we expect ML to be the same price as lion ? __________________
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:12 AM	#5
m2uk macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Finland	A stupid, artificial bad move from Apple. Or at least make iChat able to send the iMessages, even if you cannot use whatever the latest whizzy feature is.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:13 AM	#6
CplBadboy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland	Damn you Apple. I love your products but unbelievable greed excretes form every pore of you. If it isn't bad enough that my 2007 blackbook won't run Mountain Lion you now are denying your faithful customers useful features. Listen i can't afford a nice shiny new Mac to have this feature, so how about you cut the little guy some slack and make this available to all.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:15 AM	#7
Calidude Banned Join Date: Jun 2010	This is only surprising to Apple loyalists who think Apple makes the grass grow.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:16 AM	#8
Aniday macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2009	Kinda sucks considering they replaced iChat. Will they have to push an update to Lion users to rip them off of an update? wtf
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:20 AM	#11
Aniday macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2009	They're encouraging piracy with this, really. No computer savvy person would put up with this enough to pay over 15 bucks for this update.
	-15

Feb 17, 2012, 06:22 AM	#12
String macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2010	Some people who can use Lion but can't go up to ML, gma users, might be annoyed.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:24 AM	#13
ouimetnick macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly, Massachusetts	I was thinking after beta, Messages will be $0.99 for Lion users, and included with Mountain Lion. This is what they did with FaceTime. __________________ Rest in peace. Steven Paul Jobs 1955-2011 (56) Thanks for your intelligence, role model, and innovations. I miss you.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:25 AM	#15
jwm2 macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2012	We don't know all the details yet. I mean a string buried in the beta version doesn't mean its a done deal. I'll reserve judgement until we know for sure. __________________ Handmade Natural Skin Care Products for Geeks (owned and operated by my wife) Xbox 360 Controller Mods (owned and operated since 2001)
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:26 AM	#17
whooleytoo macrumors 603 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cork, Ireland.	Not the smartest move. The "closed garden" approach may work for a lot of things, but not for messaging where you want to be able to message all your friends/family/colleagues, not just those who are Mac users who have upgraded to Mountain Lion. __________________ Mac <- Macintosh <- McIntosh apples <- John McIntosh <- McIntosh surname <- "Mac an toshach" <- "Son of the Chief"
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:27 AM	#18
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:31 AM	#20
lamboman macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2011	What do you expect? It was a feature marketed with Mountain Lion, if it was to be released for older operating systems, Apple would have done so through the App Store, or at least made it clear that this would be the case.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:31 AM	#21
Slogan macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2008	Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9A405) To be honest, this isn't that surprising. Personally there's no real compelling reason to upgrade to ML (yet), so they have to have 'something', right?.
	2

Feb 17, 2012, 06:35 AM	#24
irishgrizzly macrumors 65816 Join Date: May 2006	This looks like a cheap way to get people to buy ML. I wish they waited and released some real must have features, not a load of iOS baubles.
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Feb 17, 2012, 06:36 AM	#25
wordoflife macrumors 604 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Republic City, URN.	Just uninstalled the beta from my Mac. Didn't like it to begin with, but no point keeping it as it'll expire. If ML is going to cost money (which it seems that it will) I certainly will be sticking to Lion. There's not a single feature that I like of ML. Wish they put out a real OS update. Nothing big since 10.5 IMO. 10.5 - revolutionary 10.6 - fix 10.5 issues 10.7 - OK, but no "wow" factor. Launchpad as another way to access apps? Well .. okay. 10.8 - 10 new changes to Lion (so far?) Not going to pay $30 for that. Last edited by wordoflife; Feb 17, 2012 at 06:41 AM.
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