Foxconn Again Raises Wages for Entry-Level Workers

Interesting timing to say the least.

year, in 20 years, china (and others) will be comparable to america or europe. and brazil, india and others will be doing all the cheap job.

Sometimes you have to do the right thing, regardless what anyone else is doing.

When you're number one in anything, there's a huge bullseye painted on your back.

Maybe the workers could form a union

And still they work 6 days a week 14 hours a day

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Four oF NINE said:

Sometimes you have to do the right thing, regardless what anyone else is doing.

When you're number one in anything, there's a huge bullseye painted on your back.

Maybe the workers could form a union

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Worker Unions are illegal in China. Only the Government can form them.

I am glad that these poor workers will see a raise, but if Apple or anyone else thinks this solves the issue as a whole, get real.

lilsoccakid74 said:

I am glad that these poor workers will see a raise, but if Apple or anyone else thinks this solves the issue as a whole, get real.

Anyone who feels different, your point is invalid unless you personally have worked in those conditions.

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Have you worked in those conditions, or do you have firsthand knowledge of what those conditions are?

So, instead of having 30,000 Chinese people applying for 1,000 jobs; now Foxconn will have 50,000 applying for those same 1.000 jobs.

What is the rate of pay for the Textile industry? I'll bet those folks making shoes, shirts, pants, socks and underwear aren't making nearly as much - and are working in a much more brutal environment.

Just a matter of time until the Chinese workers will become too expensive.

Then I guess we have exploit the African population.

I'd like to know the typical taxes as well as expenses for housing, food, transportation, and utilities. If low, then net-net I may be better off working for Foxconn!

Only $290 a month? What is the cost of living over there anyways? They couldn't even afford an iPad that they're making

Four oF NINE said:

Maybe the workers could form a union

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Uh boy. Do you even know what kind of government China has?

lilsoccakid74 said:

I am glad that these poor workers will see a raise, but if Apple or anyone else thinks this solves the issue as a whole, get real.

Anyone who feels different, your point is invalid unless you personally have worked in those conditions.

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Wow ... just a little arrogant. Have YOU worked in those conditions.

Having worked with more than a few Chinese engineers, let me share with you a little cultural difference that you may/may not be aware of. China is largely agricultural in nature. In the Chinese culture, marriage is a really big deal. It's a huge deal. In a small village, everyone is expected to be invited to your wedding, and if the food or anything about the wedding is 'bland' .. you have insulted your neighbor. Failure to invite a villager is a deep insult.

So, many people work years (Plural) saving to pay for their wedding. But wait, instead of saving and scrimping for years - you can work a contract shift at Foxconn for 3 months or more; and pay for an elaborate wedding feast. What's more, you can work for 6 months or more and not only pay for your wedding, but buy a parcel of land to farm and immediately raise your family.

Many of those folk working at Foxconn are from the interior of China, where they live as farmers. Basically, subsistance living. They have no ambition to move to the city and work like this forever - this is a temporary job; this is why Foxconn provides dorms, cafeterias, medical, housekeeping and even laundry services. The Foxconn plant near Shenzhen employs between 250,000 to 450,000 people. That places that single factory on the scale of being the size of the top 45 cities in the USA. That is freakin' HUGE!!

These people have Foxconn to thank for this boon to their lives ... or would you rather that Foxconn just pack up and move somewhere else?

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Undecided said:

I'd like to know the typical taxes as well as expenses for housing, food, transportation, and utilities. If low, then net-net I may be better off working for Foxconn!

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You sign a contract - from there your living costs are ZERO. You live in a dorm, eat at a cafeteria, use the plant medical center, use the plant laundromat. You have no living expenses at all.

q64ceo said:

And still they work 6 days a week 14 hours a day

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Just wondering: What evidence exactly do you have?

Just to provide a little perspective on how relatively well-off these junior-level workers are: a typical salesperson's base salary in Shanghai, where living expenses are relatively higher than Foxconn's campus, is 2,000 yuan.

That typical salesperson has to pay out of their own pockets to afford their own attire (suits, shirts, etc.), transportation, etc. Granted, they earn commissions on top of their base salary, but that's not guaranteed. Whereas the Foxconn workers, living on campus, most likely aren't paying for these expenses.

troop231 said:

Only $290 a month?

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$290 in OUR money.

Well judging by the picture, they all seem happy.

Good. Maybe this will help push Apple to diversify beyond China. Having so many eggs in one basket is never a good idea.

Yellowstone2012 said:

$290 in OUR money.

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Not worth what it used to be.....

q64ceo said:

And still they work 6 days a week 14 hours a day

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Citation needed.

I had a job where I worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week -- in the US. A six day schedule would have been amazing!

This is good news for the Chinese workers. I also think it will make it more appealing to produce in Europe and USA.

osx11 said:

Just a matter of time until the Chinese workers will become too expensive.

Then I guess we have exploit the African population.

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It's more of a case that as technology advances (advanced robotics), we won't need humans to be doing this stuff at all.

Pay in us. funds means nothing, what you can buy or how to live on that sum is the difference. Comparing to other companies/ jobs they had before, did life improve or ?, looks like they have improved.

Laird Knox said:

Citation needed.

I had a job where I worked 16 hours a day, 7 days a week -- in the US. A six day schedule would have been amazing!

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I hope you were working in finance/accounting/banking, where salaries are significantly higher than the Foxconn workers we are discussing here.

lilsoccakid74 said:

I am glad that these poor workers will see a raise, but if Apple or anyone else thinks this solves the issue as a whole, get real.

Anyone who feels different, your point is invalid unless you personally have worked in those conditions.

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Wait, so you've worked in these conditions?