Verizon pushed me to get droid

frostbyte32 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:27 PM

I walked into Verizon today to get the 4s and the salesman asked me to tell me why I wanted the 4s. When I explained, he tried saying the Razor was better tha the 4s and you got 4g...I explained I wasn't interested and he kept pushing for it and wouldn't leave it alone. He said he kept pushing to the point that I walked out not buying anything because I wasn't giving him my commission.

Do they get some kind of kick back from google for selling droids over iPhones? He said all the salesmen had droids and not iPhones.

Rennir · Mar 3, 2012, 08:32 PM

I've read posts by people claiming to be Verizon employees (and they seemed credible) that pushing people to buy Androids does in fact, get them a bigger commission compared to iPhones.

lordofthereef · Mar 3, 2012, 08:34 PM

They are also trying to get more people onto the 4g bandwagon. Opens up the network congestion. Technically the salesmen aren't even allowed to activate the 4S on their own lines, or they weren;t as recently as a few weeks ago.

ECUpirate44 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:35 PM

Verizon makes hardly anything on the sale of iPhones.

chrono1081 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rennir

I've read posts by people claiming to be Verizon employees (and they seemed credible) that pushing people to buy Androids does in fact, get them a bigger commission compared to iPhones.

Verizon employees make no commission on phones, only on plans. The phones are always sold at a loss to carriers (unless bought for full price without a contract). They make money on the contract.

Source: I have three friends who work as managers at Verizon stores.

Rennir · Mar 3, 2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrono1081

Verizon employees make no commission on phones, only on plans. The phones are always sold at a loss to carriers (unless bought for full price without a contract). They make money on the contract.

Source: I have three friends who work as managers at Verizon stores.

I stand corrected.

Thanks for the info

frostbyte32 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:47 PM

It was crazy uncomfortable and he kept saying how much faster the 4g is and that I would be locked in to a 2 year contract without it. I didn't expect nor feel like I needed to have to defend my decision to him.

-aggie- · Mar 3, 2012, 08:47 PM

I had an AT&T employee tell me the iPhone sucked and to by a Droid. They had an iPhone and had problems with it.

chrono1081 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rennir

I stand corrected.

Thanks for the info

No prob

Also I didn't mean to sound snarky in my post! (I just realized it looked snarky).

I *think* they make money off of accessories too but I forget and none have answered my text message yet when I asked about it.

One of my friends is always trying to get me to apply since we were both salesman 12 years ago and he wants someone he knows can sell well so he gave me the entire low down on their pay, how its set up, etc.

Fudd · Mar 3, 2012, 08:55 PM

Were you doing an upgrade or signing a contract for the first time? I just went in and when my turn came up I said I wanted to upgrade to a 4S 64GB, paid for it and walked out.

frostbyte32 · Mar 3, 2012, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fudd

Were you doing an upgrade or signing a contract for the first time? I just went in and when my turn came up I said I wanted to upgrade to a 4S 64GB, paid for it and walked out.

Upgrade from an old droid. He was saying not to compar my phone to the new droids because it was apples and oranges. I just wanted to get my phone and walk out lol

crc4 · 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte32

I walked into Verizon today to get the 4s and I walked out not buying anything

That sounds incredibly hard to believe.
You made the huge decision to get a 4s/2yr contract, then left the store not getting anything?

-aggie- · 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crc4

That sounds incredibly hard to believe.
You made the huge decision to get a 4s/2yr contract, then left the store not getting anything?

Uh, WTF?

frostbyte32 · 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crc4

TThat sounds incredibly hard to believe.
You made the huge decision to get a 4s/2yr contract, then left the store not getting anything?

Thanks, but no. I left empty handed because I wasn't giving him the sell for being insanely biased and giving me false info about the iPhone but yet again i don't need to explain myself to him...or you for that matter.

aneftp · Mar 3, 2012, 09:18 PM

I would never pay $299 on contract for any of Verizon's Android LTE flagship phones. Unless they can sell the razor maxx for less than $199 on contract tell the sales rep it's a no go. Android phones do not retain resale value so you need your Cost basis to be as low as possible.

Are u sure u went to Verizon corp store? Or did u go to Verizon authorized reseller?

I do own a Verizon Galaxy Nexus and an AT&T iPhone 4S.

Surprise they didn't push the Nexus. Oh wait. They want to push the Verizon branded Androids that have crap you can't uninstall.

Yeah the Galaxy Nexus is as close to pure android as you can get with Verizon even though they managed to put two of their apps on there.

chrono1081 · Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM

Finally got a text from one of my friends.

Verizon employees DO get commission on accessories also. Commission is on accessories and plans only, no commission on phones or on tablets.

To the OP: In electronics retail, usually the sales guys will just sell what they own since they're familiar with it. It does suck though when you get pushy sales people who instead of giving you all your options push you to one thing or another without any valid reason.

RotaryP7 · Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM

Actually, Verizon pushes it's employees to offer Android instead of iPhone. It makes the company more money, not the employee. He/she gets the same based on the plans. If they didn't really want to sell you the iPhone it's because they were either out of stock or you sir are a baby.

HeyGreggie · Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM

They dont make much on the iphones which is why

ixodes · Mar 3, 2012, 09:22 PM

It's important to remember, they may be Verizon sales people, but are still individuals that are subject to inserting their personal opinions & preferences into the conversation. Even though that's a very bad practice, these are not professional highly paid positions. Having expectations that they will perform professionally is unreasonable. Most that I've encountered don't even understand the products they sell. It's just how it is.

Fudd · Mar 3, 2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte32

Upgrade from an old droid. He was saying not to compar my phone to the new droids because it was apples and oranges. I just wanted to get my phone and walk out lol

Wow that sucks. I would probably have done the same if they had been pushy to be honest. I do my research before going to the store, not on a salesman's advice at least for electronics.

crc4 · Mar 3, 2012, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte32

Thanks, but no. I left empty handed because I wasn't giving him the sell for being insanely biased and giving me false info about the iPhone but yet again i don't need to explain myself to him...or you for that matter.

So he was the only associate in the store, no one else could help you?

(so what, you're just not going to get a 4s now because of that guy?)

frostbyte32 · Mar 3, 2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crc4

So he was the only associate in the store, no one else could help you?

I wasn't waiting for the only other associate who probably had the same practices....I will wait until I am back in my hometown to deal with my local store.

Apple... · Mar 3, 2012, 09:41 PM

I would've been like "Dude, Droids suck. Now give me my iPhone or I'm getting your manager." Problem solved.

Fudd · Mar 3, 2012, 09:41 PM

Might be better to just order it online?

frostbyte32 · Mar 3, 2012, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fudd

Might be better to just order it online?

How long is shipping

Mar 3, 2012, 08:27 PM	#1
frostbyte32 macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2012	Verizon pushed me to get droid I walked into Verizon today to get the 4s and the salesman asked me to tell me why I wanted the 4s. When I explained, he tried saying the Razor was better tha the 4s and you got 4g...I explained I wasn't interested and he kept pushing for it and wouldn't leave it alone. He said he kept pushing to the point that I walked out not buying anything because I wasn't giving him my commission. Do they get some kind of kick back from google for selling droids over iPhones? He said all the salesmen had droids and not iPhones.
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Mar 3, 2012, 08:34 PM	#3
lordofthereef macrumors 601 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Boston, MA	They are also trying to get more people onto the 4g bandwagon. Opens up the network congestion. Technically the salesmen aren't even allowed to activate the 4S on their own lines, or they weren;t as recently as a few weeks ago. __________________ I use iOS and Android daily and, more recently, Windows Phone 8. If what I say upsets you, it's probably because of your brand loyalty.
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Mar 3, 2012, 08:35 PM	#4
ECUpirate44 macrumors 603 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NC	Verizon makes hardly anything on the sale of iPhones. __________________ 2012 RMBP 2.3/8/256. 16Gb iPhone 5 Black & Slate.
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-aggie- macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Where bunnies are welcome.	I had an AT&T employee tell me the iPhone sucked and to by a Droid. They had an iPhone and had problems with it. __________________ Google with site:macrumors.com as a parameter. DFU Mode........People with Obama in White Face avatars – proving how stupid they are one post at a time
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:18 PM	#15
aneftp macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jul 2007	I would never pay $299 on contract for any of Verizon's Android LTE flagship phones. Unless they can sell the razor maxx for less than $199 on contract tell the sales rep it's a no go. Android phones do not retain resale value so you need your Cost basis to be as low as possible. Are u sure u went to Verizon corp store? Or did u go to Verizon authorized reseller? I do own a Verizon Galaxy Nexus and an AT&T iPhone 4S. Surprise they didn't push the Nexus. Oh wait. They want to push the Verizon branded Androids that have crap you can't uninstall. Yeah the Galaxy Nexus is as close to pure android as you can get with Verizon even though they managed to put two of their apps on there. __________________ (late 2012) 27 in Mac 3.2 Intel Core i5 8GB RAM 1TB fusion 32GB iPhone 5, 64GB iPad LTE (Verizon) plus 64GB iPad 4, Nexus 4
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Mar 3, 2012, 08:32 PM	#2
Rennir macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2012	I've read posts by people claiming to be Verizon employees (and they seemed credible) that pushing people to buy Androids does in fact, get them a bigger commission compared to iPhones.
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Mar 3, 2012, 08:47 PM	#7
frostbyte32 Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2012	It was crazy uncomfortable and he kept saying how much faster the 4g is and that I would be locked in to a 2 year contract without it. I didn't expect nor feel like I needed to have to defend my decision to him.
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Mar 3, 2012, 08:55 PM	#10
Fudd macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2011	Were you doing an upgrade or signing a contract for the first time? I just went in and when my turn came up I said I wanted to upgrade to a 4S 64GB, paid for it and walked out.
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM	#16
chrono1081 macrumors 603 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Isla Nublar	Finally got a text from one of my friends. Verizon employees DO get commission on accessories also. Commission is on accessories and plans only, no commission on phones or on tablets. To the OP: In electronics retail, usually the sales guys will just sell what they own since they're familiar with it. It does suck though when you get pushy sales people who instead of giving you all your options push you to one thing or another without any valid reason. __________________ Macbook Air 13inch Ultimate Hexcore MacPro 3.33ghz - 24 gigs ram - ATI 5870 - Dual 27inch ACD's
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM	#17
RotaryP7 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Miami, FL	Actually, Verizon pushes it's employees to offer Android instead of iPhone. It makes the company more money, not the employee. He/she gets the same based on the plans. If they didn't really want to sell you the iPhone it's because they were either out of stock or you sir are a baby. __________________ MacBook Pro, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 250 GB HD ; iPhone 5 16 GB
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:19 PM	#18
HeyGreggie macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2011	They dont make much on the iphones which is why
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:22 PM	#19
ixodes macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pacific Coast, USA	It's important to remember, they may be Verizon sales people, but are still individuals that are subject to inserting their personal opinions & preferences into the conversation. Even though that's a very bad practice, these are not professional highly paid positions. Having expectations that they will perform professionally is unreasonable. Most that I've encountered don't even understand the products they sell. It's just how it is. __________________ *An Ultra Fast Mac Is...My Favorite*
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Mar 3, 2012, 09:41 PM	#23
Apple... macrumors 68020 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sioux Falls, SD, U.S.	I would've been like "Dude, Droids suck. Now give me my iPhone or I'm getting your manager." Problem solved. __________________ "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." - Steve Jobs Wishful irony: Apple buys Dell, shuts it down, and gives the $ back to the shareholders. Just because it can.
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