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June.
Wow.
That soon.
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Only company in the world that believes in releasing a "new" computer/model every 16+ months.
June.
Wow.
That soon.
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Only company in the world that believes in releasing a "new" computer/model every 16+ months.
You and a few 100 other people is not Apples priority.
I am sure the Pro will come soon but that is not the type of CPU intel is bringing out.
No, not me. Not fully anyway. I feel there is some chance that we could see a redesign.
I have only one world for you:
"WINDOWS" that says it all.
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Because he does not really use Apple products or he would have know what and for whom iMacs are for.
rulesEverybody is neglecting the workstation market. Go over to Dell.com or HP.com and you will see what I mean. But you should remember that there is nothing to update right now. Apple is not going to update the Mac Pro without new CPUs, which have not yet become available. Again, same thing with HP and Dell workstations.
It is still very much limited. You are stuck with that monitor, stuck with whatever GPU you get (since they are mobility versions), and expansion slots are extremely limiting. All you really need to consider is size. Mid towers and full towers just offer more flexibility than trying to cram everyone into a smaller space. And I am confident that I could show you multiple examples of what I am talking about instead of just 1.
That thing looks really well designed! The insides are exceptionally clean from the look of the pictures. I'm honestly really impressed. (especially considering it's HP) I'll bet Apple could do something similar as far as easy snap off design goes. Perhaps an iMac Pro or something alongside the consumer iMacs. Still, those who are yearning for a pro probably don't want an integrated screen.
And exactly what is wrong with the ones out now?
I just put together a Pro at Apple.com that is making my mouth drool with 12 core and 64 gig and its only 12 grand, sorry but your not much of a pro anything if you can't afford a computer system that you can fully tax deduct over a 5 year. Yes fully tax deduct.
I don't hear any real professionals wining about 12 grand. Its nothing considering what you get including the best OS I have had the pleasure of working and playing on. And I have used Windows 3.11 Network and up. Linux which is fine for those that just have to geek around. Unix/Solaris because I just had to for work some years back. Those where also such nice boxes so cool looking for their time.
I don't care about Pro because that is not how I make my money, but on the other hand I have iMac, Macbook Air, iPad 2, iPhone and 15 grand of certification, because that is how I make money. Working right now and will be putting money behind a new certification and training because its going to make me more money.
If your a Pro designer then 12 grand is nothing. If your at McD and just want a cheap Pro go and find out how to do a Mackintosh, I did one and it worked just fine but was not worth it because I hate big boxes sitting on the floor. I like the sleek looking space age Apple products. Smooth metal and glass is my addictions.
Not bragging about my self just stating your logic is faulty. Who here things 12 2.93 GHz cores is not enough?
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Got say the post about a Smaller Tower Mac would tick a lot if not all of my boxes for my next mac. The reason I even picked up a 2010 mini was to have a optical drive and immediately throw 8gb of ram inside, because when my 2007 MBP died again (video card blew damn invidia crap) But my only options for an iMac is paying apple an absurd amount for a proper amount of ram, you all im sure would agree 4gb is scraps now, and having to fork over much more for a SSD+2tbHD. I would probably by a refurbished Thunderbolt Display too if Apple went mini tower. But dang do I just love the iMac.
Well, I don't want to re-hash the whole argument that has raged on in previous threads, but I guess you've never tried to export a 3D layer-heavy comp out of After Effects while also working in Final Cut on a MacBook Pro. Processor power can't handle it as well as a tower.
<soapbox>I'm tired of iPeople thinking we don't need towers and other computers with fast processors just because THEY don't need them. I can give a rat's a$$ for the population that doesn't include me "and a few 100 other people" (kiljoy616) who think they're elitist and Apple should only serve THEM. Until our industry (video production) comes up with a standard for delivery AS A WHOLE we need everything a tower can give. That includes an ODD. I know I can get an external if the MBP redesign happens like everyone says it might, but that's just one more piece of equipment I gotta lug around to do my work.
Wait, OK, so maybe the ODD is on the bottom of my list, but please keep the Ethernet connection!</soapbox>
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Huge +1 to the anti-reflective glass proposition. I've got an old 2007 24" iMac (first model to go aluminium) and my dad's got the current 27", and both suffer from awful reflection and glare in brightly lit environments; to use my dad's one properly (e.g. watching an HD film or looking at photos), the blinds have to be drawn.
I hope decent AR glass reaches the entire Mac line-up before long. Something around the quality of Sony's VAIO displays would be great, in my opinion.
I hope decent AR glass reaches the entire Mac line-up before long. Something around the quality of Sony's VAIO displays would be great, in my opinion.
As a former iMac user, I agree. I may have had a lemon but my iMac was a big time heat magnet. Over time, it gathered so much dust inside that the logic board began to fail, with symptoms like graphic glitches and random freeze or kernel panic.
I would much prefer Mac mini to take over the role of iMac (which may require mini to become larger again).
Why in the world would you upgrade a computer? I have owned numerous PCs and Macs and never in my life have I upgraded a computer (other than adding RAM). People love to tout the "upgradability" of PCs, but in reality, by the time you want to upgrade the video card (or some other component other than RAM), you really need a new motherboard, but then you need new faster RAM to take advantage of it, oh and while you're at it, you may as well get the new processor, and, and...oh, you just bought a new computer.
It's always better to just buy the new model and get ALL the technology improvements at once. Considering the high resale value of Macs, its cost effective too.
But is there a demand for something like this from buyers? Has anyone owned or bought on of these HP? How about at Work?
For HP it may work but I would never buy that and call it an iMac.
We have a bunch of iMacs deployed at work. The AIO design makes them very easy to set up. I'm on my second at home and will probably upgrade this summer. Sure, I'd like to be able to change the drives and video card myself, but I don't expect Apple to allow that. I'd settle for an option to upgrade the internals at an Apple store or authorized dealer, though.
I'd happily lose the internal optical drive in favor of standard SSD+HDD combo across the board for the iMacs. I'd be losing a feature I barely ever use in favor of a phenomenal speed boost.
Well, I don't want to re-hash the whole argument that has raged on in previous threads, but I guess you've never tried to export a 3D layer-heavy comp out of After Effects while also working in Final Cut on a MacBook Pro. Processor power can't handle it as well as a tower.
<soapbox>I'm tired of iPeople thinking we don't need towers and other computers with fast processors just because THEY don't need them. I can give a rat's a$$ for the population that doesn't include me "and a few 100 other people" (kiljoy616) who think they're elitist and Apple should only serve THEM. Until our industry (video production) comes up with a standard for delivery AS A WHOLE we need everything a tower can give. That includes an ODD. I know I can get an external if the MBP redesign happens like everyone says it might, but that's just one more piece of equipment I gotta lug around to do my work.
Wait, OK, so maybe the ODD is on the bottom of my list, but please keep the Ethernet connection!</soapbox>
Cheers!
First yes I am, second that is not what the post was about. Mac Pro are professional machines which right now run up to 12 cores with 64 gig for 12 grand, that is not a lot of money for a Professional, let me spell it again Professional not McD unless you own a McD which why you would want one is well up to you, but you will pay for bragging rights.
If your so fixated on a Tower for gaming get a PC, if your fixated on a tower then wait till the PERFECT MAC comes out. What I said still stands, 12 grand which is for a "everything goes Mac Pro" is not a lot of money when you can tax deduct it as a business expense and two your life and livelihood depends on it.
Stop crying that you can't own one because you think Apple is Dell or you wish it was. I don't own one, because to me it would be a waste of resources and the returns would not be there for what I do. Some people need a tower because they like boxes sitting on the floor, personally I could care less why you or anyone wants one.
Apple is not catering to your small club demands. They look at the Mac Pro as a limited sales group consisting of Professionals who not only will pay the price but really need it.
Upgradability even on the Mac Pro is limited and you will not be upgrading every year even if it was a much more open system. Apple is not looking for that type of clientele.
Your right about the Rat part Apple does not care about you either, and I think they know what they are doing. They don't care about me and my fantasy of the perfect computer either. So what is your point than just spouting anger. 1. I want a tower 2. I can't afford it, 3. I should still be allowed to get one, really.
Dell has the computer you are looking for go buy it. Oh wait you don't like Dell ok HP how about them, no, oh you want your fantasy and Apple to grant it out of their Corporate kindness.
Come on. Really ? June? Who knows if that is even true with the track record of these sources. I should have just purchased my new system in February when I was first thinking about it. Your are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't I suppose. Honestly, there is a lesson here. Purchase when you need a new machine. Waiting for an update has proven to be frustrating. Never again.<sarcasm><strong>Way to be on it intel! You guys are awesome.</strong></sarcasm>
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Well, I don't want to re-hash the whole argument that has raged on in previous threads, but I guess you've never tried to export a 3D layer-heavy comp out of After Effects while also working in Final Cut on a MacBook Pro. Processor power can't handle it as well as a tower.
<soapbox>I'm tired of iPeople thinking we don't need towers and other computers with fast processors just because THEY don't need them. I can give a rat's a$$ for the population that doesn't include me "and a few 100 other people" (kiljoy616) who think they're elitist and Apple should only serve THEM. Until our industry (video production) comes up with a standard for delivery AS A WHOLE we need everything a tower can give. That includes an ODD. I know I can get an external if the MBP redesign happens like everyone says it might, but that's just one more piece of equipment I gotta lug around to do my work.
Wait, OK, so maybe the ODD is on the bottom of my list, but please keep the Ethernet connection!</soapbox>
Cheers!
tried to export a 3D layer-heavy comp out of After Effects while also working in Final Cut on a MacBook Pro.
No your right and I do understand the need. As for Macbook Pro its definitely not the machine for everything. I concur with you on that, but my question would be the same, why are you using that, and if your livelihood is doing those things why use a machine not designed for that?
The issue here was never Towers "suck", they don't. The issue here was someone said basically "I want this but I don't want to pay for it, and I still should get it because I am a princes. Apple is bad person because I can't get Mac Pro (not Macbook Pro) for the price that I feel is right for me."
Wait you could get a lower version of the Mac Pro, but he wants everything and cheap, really how is that possible in our real world.
Personally Apple should sell me my next iMac for a dollar. I be so happy, but I should take my "crazy person" medication if I think that is going to happen.
