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Microsoft Releases Office for Mac 2011 Service Pack 2

chrono1081 said:
I wish they had a version that just sold Word for the few times a year I need it :/
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+1. Microsoft should sell their Apps independent to one another. I only have use for Word and Outlook. It would have been cool to save some £ and just have bought what I need instead of all the other rubbish that gets bundled with Office 2010.
 
roadbloc said:
+1. Microsoft should sell their Apps independent to one another. I only have use for Word and Outlook. It would have been cool to save some £ and just have bought what I need instead of all the other rubbish that gets bundled with Office 2010.
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"Other rubbish" is quite the understatement 😛

I recently installed (and uninstalled) my Office 2008 because I needed word for formatting and I was horrified to see how much crap gets installed along side Office that I never noticed before 😱
 
klaxamazoo said:
I love Word and Excel. I think Word 2011 is a lot better than Word 2010, a huge improvement over 2008, and is way better than Pages for what I do. I tried using Pages to write a paper once and it was a disaster. Pages is fine for writing letters and short documents but Word is a work horse.

Word 2011 is extremely stable for me, easier to use, very powerful. It is my 2nd most used program and I think that Microsoft did a great job.

Also, I hope Microsoft doesn't implement Versions until Apple gets its head out of its ass. Versions paradigm is way too dangerous when you are working on important documents and need to be in control. I haven't lost a document due to not saving in over 2 years, but in less than 3 months with Lion I had three sets of data corrupted and had to find an alternative to TextEdit just to keep my data safe.
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Oh god, that "versions" crap was one of the worst ideas Apple has had in a long time. I absolutely hate it. Save and Save As work perfectly fine, you don't need to innovate on that. I'm fine with them bringing these iOS ideas on to OS X, but that was one aspect that REALLY didn't need to be messed with in the first place. Ugh, anyway- I digress.
 
I want to see the Outlook email store etc as a networked folder option. That way I can access the same emails via more than 1 Macs without having to deal with a remote server store. (Just like I used to do in Win7).
 
MacRumorUser said:
I tend to agree with you. I prefer the option to save and save as.

The whole save a version is a pain the hoLe, requiring user to duplicate file to re-edit rather than just the previous and much better way of choosing to 'save as' and rename the file and save as a new file.

Pages irritates me profoundly now with the lack of the save as option.
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I don't get this at all. Either way you are duplicating the file. In the first situation, you duplicate it in the beginning. In the second situation, you duplicate it in the end. Neither way adds more steps. However, the new way is more clear about what you are actually doing and helps prevent the issue of overwriting your original.

If you duplicate up front, there is no chance of saving over a file by mistake. Duplicating in the end (save as) can have you forgetting that you were editing the original and if you hit CMD+S by mistake you end up overwriting.

The real reason a good number of people don't like Duplicate is because Human Beings are creatures of habit and people have being doing the Save As thing now for decades.

If you take a person who has never used either before, they will almost surely find Duplicate makes more sense and works better. That's because "Duplicate" is actually better and more clearer. "Save As" just has familiarity (for now).
 
The Phazer said:
Ignoring versions is such a selling point MS should put it on the front of Office's box.

Phazer
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For me, the mere fact they added support for full screen and none of the other Lion features, despite how long Lion has been out, speaks volumes.
 
They are not there

imMango said:
^ Force close them via Activty Monitor.
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These two suckers don't show in the activity monitor, anybody got an idea how to fix this?

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ryanmcv said:
I'm having the same problem. Any ideas?
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Yup, same problem here, and they are not in the Activity monitor so cannot force close.
Tried deleting them from Office Utilities, was told they are in use........🙁

Anybody got any ideas?
 
Product key hassles

I too had to re-enter my product key before any of the products would open. That forced me to hunt all over for where I stored the DVD from which I installed them originally. What a hassle. Why can't the updater simply phone home and verify whether or not it's a legitimate copy?

So, that does it for me. I will never buy another MS POS product!
 
newagemac said:
I don't get this at all. Either way you are duplicating the file. In the first situation, you duplicate it in the beginning. In the second situation, you duplicate it in the end. Neither way adds more steps. However, the new way is more clear about what you are actually doing and helps prevent the issue of overwriting your original.

If you duplicate up front, there is no chance of saving over a file by mistake. Duplicating in the end (save as) can have you forgetting that you were editing the original and if you hit CMD+S by mistake you end up overwriting.

The real reason a good number of people don't like Duplicate is because Human Beings are creatures of habit and people have being doing the Save As thing now for decades.

If you take a person who has never used either before, they will almost surely find Duplicate makes more sense and works better. That's because "Duplicate" is actually better and more clearer. "Save As" just has familiarity (for now).
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Versions was an idea with potential but poorly implemented. Try "Duplicating" a 500 MB file. First you have to wait for it to Duplicate, now you are taking up 2x the RAM, next you get to re-navigate to the folder you wanted to save to because Versions can't remember simple things like paths, now you get to wait again to save the file, then you have to close the original file.

Versions has a simplistic view of content management, i.e. save everything always. Locked documents are too much work and the Versions folder balloons out of control. It was taking up 10 GB on my 128 GB hard drive to save crap I didn't want to save.

Versions is too much work. I haven't lost a file to not saving in over two years, but had three sets of data corrupted by Versions in three months. That is some pretty crappy design right there.
 
Why no fullscreen in Outlook?

I am completely shocked as to what the reason is for not including Outlook in the apps that implement fullscreen - why? This is very disappointing. Fullscreen in Apple Mail is great and a similar functionality for Outlook would have been welcomed. It just seems that the Microsoft team is always coming up short for no apparent reason. The little things count and although I generally enjoy using Outlook it continues to fall short. Will we ever see a proper Autoarchive feature for example or a delay/schedule send/receive feature, probably not.
 
MacRumorUser said:
I tend to agree with you. I prefer the option to save and save as.

The whole save a version is a pain the hoLe, requiring user to duplicate file to re-edit rather than just the previous and much better way of choosing to 'save as' and rename the file and save as a new file.

Pages irritates me profoundly now with the lack of the save as option.
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Amen, I wish there was at least an option in Apple Apps (iWork, Preview, etc.) that if you held down the option key, Duplicate would change to "Save as" and would function as a normal "save as". This would satisy the needs of everyone and return some much needed functionality to OS X.
I Love Mac OS X but two of my biggest irritations are no "Save As" option anymore in many apps, and no address bar for the finder and other places (like automater, save dialoge boxes, open dialogue boxes, etc.) I know not everyone needs them, and that's great, but I know those two things alone would help our workflows to flow better.

More onto topic, I'm glad to see a new Service Pack is out, it's to bad Microsoft doesn't get behind their Mac stuff all that well, but I can't blame the Mac Business Unit, they love macs as much as any of us, and want Office to be great, I think they just have to do the best with the resources they are allocated from on high.
 
jmille44 said:
Does anyone VPN into their office server and open word files?
It's painfully slow and wanted to know if this update addressed the issue?

Does Word even support opening files off a server, because It takes about 2 minutes to open a 2mb file over the 10mbit VPN connection and then when you scroll down pages, you get the beach ball. It's painful.
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I get this. I think it wasn't as bad on Snow Leopard, however.

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Scrumper said:
I installed the trial version of Mac Office 2011 and really like it. It's slick, stable and makes me want to get down to some serious work. My only stumbling block is the absence of Publisher.

My work place are stubbornly holding on to Windows PCs and their app of choice for seemingly everything they want me to work on is MS Publisher. Will there ever be a Mac version of this powerful but exclusive little gem?

I know there is plenty of Mac-compatible software that does similar things (I currently use "The Printshop" for my own projects) but if I need to do anything for work, I have to do it "at" work. 🙁
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Can you install Publisher for Windows using WINE?
 
klaxamazoo said:
Versions was an idea with potential but poorly implemented. Try "Duplicating" a 500 MB file. First you have to wait for it to Duplicate, now you are taking up 2x the RAM, next you get to re-navigate to the folder you wanted to save to because Versions can't remember simple things like paths, now you get to wait again to save the file, then you have to close the original file.

Versions has a simplistic view of content management, i.e. save everything always. Locked documents are too much work and the Versions folder balloons out of control. It was taking up 10 GB on my 128 GB hard drive to save crap I didn't want to save.

Versions is too much work. I haven't lost a file to not saving in over two years, but had three sets of data corrupted by Versions in three months. That is some pretty crappy design right there.
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We weren't discussing Versions, we were discussing "Duplicate" versus "Save As". And Duplicating a 500MB file is the same as doing Save As on a 500MB file. In each instance you are creating a duplicate/new copy of the file. One is done at the beginning and the other is done at the end.
 
TimBridges said:
These two suckers don't show in the activity monitor, anybody got an idea how to fix this?

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Yup, same problem here, and they are not in the Activity monitor so cannot force close.
Tried deleting them from Office Utilities, was told they are in use........🙁

Anybody got any ideas?
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First, restart your computer.

Next, open one of the MS apps, and check for updates.

Just after you select the drive you want to install the update on, close your MS app. Then, force close the app from your dock. Next, Force quit from your dock the MS Auto-updater application.

This should now let you get past that force quit dialog.

Worked for me...
 
Tiek00n said:
I'm still disappointed that there is no way to hide the white space between pages in Word. I really don't need 2" of my screen taken up by showing me that margins exist. Word '03 allowed you to hide the margins by simply double clicking between pages, but '11 doesn't have it. A pity.
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Does Draft View resolve this for you?
 
JoeMacDe said:
I too had to re-enter my product key before any of the products would open. That forced me to hunt all over for where I stored the DVD from which I installed them originally. What a hassle. Why can't the updater simply phone home and verify whether or not it's a legitimate copy?

So, that does it for me. I will never buy another MS POS product!
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Thats weird, it didn't ask for anything on my end. Normal install and done.
 
iCloud Support

No iCloud support ='s no update for me....service pack 2 was pointless icloud support was my main concern.
 
newagemac said:
We weren't discussing Versions, we were discussing "Duplicate" versus "Save As". And Duplicating a 500MB file is the same as doing Save As on a 500MB file. In each instance you are creating a duplicate/new copy of the file. One is done at the beginning and the other is done at the end.
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The difference is that duplicate forces another 500 MB of RAM to be consumed as two instances of the file are created. It also forces two wait periods, one when the file is created and another when it is saved to disk. The Save As method only has one wait period, when it is saved to disk.
 
thatisme said:
First, restart your computer.

Next, open one of the MS apps, and check for updates.

Just after you select the drive you want to install the update on, close your MS app. Then, force close the app from your dock. Next, Force quit from your dock the MS Auto-updater application.

This should now let you get past that force quit dialog.

Worked for me...
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Thanks dude, worked just fine
I can't see any differences after update but I'm sure there are some
 
Excel temp files still on desktop

I was hoping this update would fix the issue where Excel leaves those odd temp files on my desktop. You know, the ones that don't have an extension. Anyone else still getting those?

I find the easiest way to get rid of them is to relaunch finder from the Forcequit menu. Good times.

But, hey, full screen is neat.
 
george357 said:
No iCloud support ='s no update for me....service pack 2 was pointless icloud support was my main concern.
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Office is more of an enterprise tool and as such, it doesn't focus on consumer features. iCloud is great but Microsoft hasn't even managed to integrate their own services to Office, how do you expect them to be able to deliver more?
 
nsfw said:
"Word" of warning. My update is now asking me to enter the product key. I have a legit copy but it thinks its already registered, now I have to call Microsoft.
If you have a copy that fell off the back of a truck, be careful.
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I am having the same problem with my absolutely legitimate copy licensed through the HUP program...it's incredible how they are able to SCREW UP with even the most basic of things.

HOW DO I SOLVE THIS damn issue now?

Edit: Had to use phone activation; problem solved for now.
 
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