Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:13 AM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple Predicted to Discontinue 17-Inch MacBook Pro




Research analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has in the past offered accurate information on Apple's Mac product roadmap, recently took on a new position with KGI Securities and has published a new report today indicating that Apple may be preparing to drop the 17-inch MacBook Pro from its lineup due to weak sales.




Kuo's prediction comes as Apple is expected to introduce new notebooks that serve as a hybrid between the current MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models, offering greater power than the Air but greater portability than the Pro. Kuo believes that Apple will elect to drop the 17-inch size as part of this revamp in order to streamline the company's product offerings.
Quote:
Apple's Mac business in 2Q12 will be boosted by several factors. Three of which are: (1) Mountain Lion, which integrates iOS features with Mac OS, Apple TV's interaction function, will be launched in June; (2) upgrading to Ivy Bridge; and (3) back-to-school demand. We forecast Apple will sell 5.32mn units of the Mac series (up 28.5% QoQ and 35.2% YoY) in 2Q12, making it the main growth driver.

We also predict Apple will roll out a fully new MacBook model in early 3Q12, boasting strong performance and easy carryability by combining the advantages of MacBook Air and MacBook Pro.

While adding new products, Apple is likely to stop making the 17" MacBook Pro this year due to falling shipments, in order to maintain a lean product line strategy.
According to Kuo's estimates for the first calendar quarter of 2012, Apple sold roughly 3.1 million notebooks, with nearly half of them being the 13-inch MacBook Pro, far and away the company's best-selling Mac product. But while Kuo predicts sales of nearly 1.5 million units of the 13-inch MacBook Pro, he sees much lower sales of roughly 500,000 15-inch models and only 50,000 17-inch models.

Kuo estimates Apple's first quarter MacBook Air sales at roughly 1.1 million, split nearly equally between 11-inch and 13-inch models. He believes that the MacBook Air is only meeting Apple's expectations and not exceeding them, in large part because solid-state drives are not yet available in large enough capacities to satisfy consumers. But the trend of abandoning optical and traditional hard disk drives from notebooks will continue, and solid-state drives will continue to become more cost competitive over time.

Article Link: Apple Predicted to Discontinue 17-Inch MacBook Pro
MacRumors is offline   -24 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:14 AM   #2
Liquinn
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
I guess we'll see about this soon :P
__________________
2011 Mini | 13" (cMBP) + 15" (rMBP 2013) | Powermac G5 | 27" TBD | iPhone 3GS (16GB) | iPad 1 and iPad 4 | iPod touch 4G (64GB) | Apple Wireless Keyboard + Magic Mouse x2 | Magic Trackpad |
Liquinn is offline   -1 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:14 AM   #3
mathcolo
macrumors 6502a
 
mathcolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Colorado
I personally always thought the 17-inch MBP looked big and had few benefits over the 15-inch version, so I'm not surprised if this rumor ends up being true.

I suppose some could miss the ExpressCard slot though...
__________________
13" MacBook Pro Retina - 2.6 GHz i5 - 512GB SSD - 8GB RAM
- Google Nexus 5
[Retired]13" MacBook Pro - 2.53 GHz C2D - 240GB SSD - 8GB RAM
[Retired]- Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE
mathcolo is offline   31 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:15 AM   #4
nfl46
macrumors 601
 
nfl46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
But yet people want to get rid of the 13" Macbook Pro. Not happening. As stated, its the best selling Macbook. Slim it down and give us a high def screen. Oh and Ivy Bridge, too.

The 17" MBP was way too big and overpriced.
__________________
| 16GB Moto X | 16GB Apple iPhone 6 Plus | 13" MacBook Pro | 2nd Generation Apple TV |
nfl46 is offline   -26 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:16 AM   #5
8CoreWhore
macrumors 68000
 
8CoreWhore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Big D
15 is the new 17.
__________________
Late 2013 Haswell 15" rMBP... iPhone 5S iOS7... AEBS 802.11AC ... iPod Shuffle...
8CoreWhore is online now   35 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:16 AM   #6
andalusia
macrumors 68030
 
andalusia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Manchester, UK
Goodbye, pro market.
__________________
Signature deleted.
andalusia is offline   84 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:17 AM   #7
DavidTheExpert
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Nooooo, Apple! Both of my last two Mac purchases have been 17" MBP's! They're brilliant! All the extra computing power plus the lots of extra screen real estate. Plus they fit perfectly in my backpack!
__________________
I'm always tweeting about Apple stuff on Twitter: @DavidTheExpert
Follow my blog for tech, business, and NYC stuff: www.DavidTheExpert.com
DavidTheExpert is offline   51 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:17 AM   #8
needfx
macrumors 68020
 
needfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: macrumors apparently
yeah, drop mac book pro 17", mac pro, whats next?

enough

edit--
It really doesn't make sense killing the content creation lines (mac pro, mbp 17").
__________________
flickr, amphipolis

Last edited by needfx; Apr 23, 2012 at 04:00 AM.
needfx is online now   43 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:18 AM   #9
thegreypatch
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
This is slightly dis-heartening as he does say the new models possibly released in "3Q12" which would not go along with everything that the 15" model will come out first.

Maybe the 13" and 15" will come out together and apple will wait?..
thegreypatch is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:19 AM   #10
ipedro
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Toronto, ON
My last 3 MacBookPro's have been 17". Luckily, I'm in the process of dropping the MacBookPro in favour of an iPad for portability and a next generation iMac for power and its larger screen.

Goodbye 17" MacBookPro. You served me well.
__________________
iMac 27" i7 | MacBook Pro 17" 2009 | iPhone5 | iPad Air | tv | Time Capsule
ipedro is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:19 AM   #11
haruhiko
macrumors 68030
 
haruhiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
I'm quite disappointed with the sales number of the MacBook Air in the article, especially when it is compared with the strong sales of the MBP 13". MBA 13" is in every aspect much faster than the MBP 13", the screen is a lot better too. When you take the price of an equivalent SSD in the consideration, MBA 13" is much cheaper too.

So are people buying the 13" MBP just for the word "Pro"?
__________________
rMBP'12, iMac'08/24", Mini'09, MBP'10/15", MBA'11/13". iPhone: 6+/128/sg, 5s/64S 5/64B, 4S/64W, 4/32B, 3GS/16. iPT: 3G,1G. iPad: Air,Mini2,4,3/LTE/64 2/3G/32, 1/WiFi/16. ATV'12,'11, AEBS'09, TC'13/2TB
haruhiko is offline   -10 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:21 AM   #12
nfl46
macrumors 601
 
nfl46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by haruhiko View Post
I'm quite disappointed with the sales number of the MacBook Air in the article, especially when it is compared with the strong sales of the MBP 13". MBA 13" is in every aspect much faster than the MBP 13", the screen is a lot better too. When you take the price of an equivalent SSD in the consideration, MBA 13" is much cheaper too.

So are people buying the 13" MBP just for the word "Pro"?
Because we like having to ability to burn CD's without having to buy an external drive. We have an all-in-one.
__________________
| 16GB Moto X | 16GB Apple iPhone 6 Plus | 13" MacBook Pro | 2nd Generation Apple TV |
nfl46 is offline   24 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:22 AM   #13
charlieegan3
macrumors 68020
 
charlieegan3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: U.K
i suppose the only real benefit was the extra resolution, but now with retina...
charlieegan3 is offline   -26 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:23 AM   #14
geogolem
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
ya realistically the macbook pro 13" offers no improvement over the 13" Macbook Air except the optical drive which I almost never use anyway. I'm looking forward to see what Apple does with their notebook offerings....

Hell I'm waiting for the day we have a 13" Macbook Air with a swivel touch screen thats snaps down over the keyboard. Wouldn't it be awesome to have the full power/functionality of Mac OS X in your hands but the capability of swivelling the screen and snapping it down and basically having an ipad mode?

I want an Macbook Air/Ipad hybrid!!!!
geogolem is offline   -38 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:24 AM   #15
srxtr
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Good thing analysts aren't the ones running Apple
srxtr is offline   85 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:25 AM   #16
DaReal_Dionysus
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
NEVER going to happen!!! Apple won't do this for quite some time due to the about of professionals that use the 17" screen. Every time these ridiculous predictions come out they are BS. Mac Pro was supposed to be killed five years ago and it's still around. This is a rumor just like the iPhone 5 holographic keyboard and display. BS nothing more
DaReal_Dionysus is offline   6 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:25 AM   #17
wikus
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Planet earth.
Quote:
Originally Posted by andalusia View Post
Goodbye, pro market.
That could have been said at least 2 years ago. Apple doesn't care about the pro market, they only care about toys like iOS.
wikus is offline   -11 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:26 AM   #18
MacintoshUser86
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Primos, PA
The 17th down and the rest are soon to follow with the popularity of the iPad and other tablets.
MacintoshUser86 is offline   -24 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:28 AM   #19
jian
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Francisco
Send a message via MSN to jian
to be honest, that Kuo dude seems like a Microsoft-tasted Apple fanboy. A laptop between Macbook Pro and Macbook Air? that's like a portable device between an iPod touch and an iPhone.
__________________
So much for humanity.
jian is offline   11 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:33 AM   #20
Zheray94
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Washington
This makes me very sad. I really wanted a 17 inch
Zheray94 is offline   17 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:33 AM   #21
mingoglia
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
There's no doubt the sales are a fraction. I hope this isn't true, as I'm a big fan of the 17". Since I have the anti-glare the lack of glass almost exactly offset the difference in weight between the 15 and 17 for me.... at least that's what I tell myself. After carrying a 15" for years, the move to the 17 wasn't noticeable for me, other than having a much more limited selection of laptop cases. Once I found a couple I liked, it was smooth sailing. I'd be disappointed to see it go, but would understand the reason.

As for the additional slot, I couldn't care less, nor has the additional USB port really been much of a advantage with my usage. The main thing for me is I typically have my terminal sessions on one side, and a browser on the other as I use both for day to day business.
mingoglia is offline   9 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:34 AM   #22
macbookairman
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: United States
I ended up buying a 17" MBP last year. It was a tough decision between it and the 15", but I went for the 17" b/c of its extra power. I absolutely love this laptop now, and can't imagine going back to a smaller screen. I'm a film post production major so the extra power and screen real estate are essential. It's going to be tough to see Apple discontinue this model. I guess a smaller MacBook Air (or iPad) and an iMac are in my future. It's just going to feel weird going from a monster laptop to a smaller one.
__________________
iPhone 5, 2011 17" MBP 2.3GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Drobo Mini, Late '07 MacBook
macbookairman is offline   12 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:35 AM   #23
Zaphodsplanet
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Texas
Yeah... right

Is this by any chance the same guy the predicted that the Mac mini would get dumped... over... and over... and over again?

What a boob.
Zaphodsplanet is offline   38 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:36 AM   #24
Boxcar Edit
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Nnnnoooooooo!

Wow. I never thought there was something that could make me consider switching *back*.

I really, really use the real estate on my 17" MBP. It's my third one and I feel cramped working on someone's 15" for all the application and screen switching I do when coding or working in Photoshop. And writing music on a 15"? Nope. I live on this thing and don't want to have to connect some external monitor to do much of my work (it defeats the point of having a laptop and being mobile).

Some people think the 17" MBPs are too big, some people sit down and are jealous. Apple, you're making enough money to continue serving your customers with a few slightly less profitable parts of the business needed by some of your customers.

Many of us have been watching the discussions of possible 15" MBPs with retina screens and have been patiently waiting for news about a 17" version. Rumors of discontinuing them was not what we were waiting for!!

Apple, please, please don't kill the 17".

[edit: Oh, and I use the 2nd USB port daily at work. It comes in handy to not need a hub to connect my phone (or external keyboard sometimes) and have a USB magnetic card reader for running customer's CCs.]

Last edited by Boxcar Edit; Apr 23, 2012 at 01:41 AM.
Boxcar Edit is offline   22 Reply With Quote
Old Apr 23, 2012, 01:38 AM   #25
jlnr
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by haruhiko View Post
So are people buying the 13" MBP just for the word "Pro"?
If you need a DVD drive, the MBA is out of the question. If you don't, you can replace the one inside the MBP with an SSD and have a clear space advantage over the MBA. I guess it depends on how much of your life has moved into the cloud already. (For me that's only a few 100kb of contacts and calendar items.)

I also think the stigma of a toy machine is going to last for a while, at least until more than three hardcore fans have adopted Thunderbolt. What do I do with my Firewire hard drives? FW800 was obscure enough as it is, finding a FW800<->TB adapter does not sound like fun.

--

That said, just because machines are useful to *some* people does not mean Apple won't axe them. And a 17" screen with an anti-glare option sounds way too ergonomic for Apple's portfolio anyway

Last edited by jlnr; Apr 23, 2012 at 01:44 AM.
jlnr is offline   7 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Apple Predicted to Release Ultra-Slim 12-Inch MacBook with Retina Display in Mid-2014 MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 415 Jun 18, 2014 11:19 PM
Which is better? Mid 2009 Macbook Pro 13 inch or Early 2008 Macbook Pro 15 inch Macdude2010 MacBook Pro 10 Jan 31, 2014 12:49 PM
Apple Discontinues 15-inch Non-Retina MacBook Pro, Leaves 13-inch Version in Lineup MacRumors Mac Blog Discussion 77 Nov 13, 2013 08:13 AM
Did Apple discontinue the non-retina Macbook Pros? Havok83 MacBook Pro 11 Oct 22, 2013 10:58 PM
Regular 13 inch Macbook Pro or 13 inch Machbook pro with retina display? hammerton MacBook Pro 21 Oct 25, 2012 07:35 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:52 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC