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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:22 PM   #101
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I think he meant viable as a product being sold by a business. Viable as in profitable so the company will keep making them.
That could be. It's hard to tell what he means by anything. Then again, the Xoom is stil available.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:22 PM   #102
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Where the hell were you the last 2 weeks. You had your buying opportunity.
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When it dropped from the high of 644 to under $560 today, you couldn't find that?
C'mon...you call that pullback ? AAPL can run $20-$30 up and down a day with no reason...I was looking for at least $500/share.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:22 PM   #103
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(RTTNews.com) - Apple Inc. (AAPL) posted second-quarter net profit of $11.62 billion or $12.30 per share, up from $5.99 billion or $6.40 per share in the year-ago quarter. Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters expected the company to report earnings of $10.06 per share for the quarter. Analysts' estimates typically exclude special items.

Quarterly revenue rose to $39.2 billion from $24.7 billion in the same quarter last year. Forty three analysts had consensus revenue estimate of $36.81 billion for the quarter.
Nice try.
Not even a nice try, pretty poor if you ask me. He always comes here trying to spread his FUD. This is the same guy who stated that Apple is going to become irrelevant. LOL! Apple keeps proving these pundits wrong. I predict the stock will be back to $640+ levels within 2 weeks easy.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:24 PM   #104
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That's a strawman invented by some Wall Street analyst. Look at Verizon's and ATT's sales numbers of iPhones vs all others. Like they're going to screw with Apple over subsidies.
Those numbers tell that providers that sold most iPhone (AT&T) gained fewer new customers indicating that iPhone does not draw new customers anymore and thus making people think that providers simply have no incentives anymore to overpay for iPhone. It does sound logical to me.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:24 PM   #105
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You're looking at the wrong quote:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL
My mistake.

After hour quote is currently $596, I'm pretty sure that's under $600.

Bragging about instant quotes is insane, wait until the market opens and see what it levels off or averages at.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:24 PM   #106
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Carriers can't lower iPhone subsidies, it would hurt their business way too much. Much of the world is buying it up just fine without subsidy anyway.
Cook has too much leverage. Apple could just buy ATT and become it's own carrier. Now that would get other carriers pissed off.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:25 PM   #107
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Not even a nice try, pretty poor if you ask me. He always comes here trying to spread his FUD. This is the same guy who stated that Apple is going to become irrelevant. LOL! Apple keeps proving these pundits wrong. I predict the stock will be back to $640+ levels within 2 weeks easy.
You should try to understand what FUD means. I just reported the facts that all news outlets reported below the headlines.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:25 PM   #108
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Cook has too much leverage. Apple could just buy ATT and become it's own carrier. Now that would get other carriers pissed off.
That would also be a very bad move for Apple and would like cause the stock to plummet.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:25 PM   #109
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Then again, the Xoom is stil available.
And irrelevant.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:26 PM   #110
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That could be. It's hard to tell what he means by anything. Then again, the Xoom is stil available.
Perhaps, I bet there has not been one manufactured in over 6 months.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:27 PM   #111
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Perhaps, I bet there has not been one manufactured in over 6 months.
Nobody knows, but I'm not sure why there wouldn't be.

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And irrelevant.
Really? Works for me. I can't help that you're blind.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:28 PM   #112
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Apple's ridiculously effective strategy has been predicated on coming up with new hit products every 3-4 years, each successive one being larger than the previous one. So it is perfectly reasonable to wonder what the next big driver of growth will be. I will admit that my crystal ball is cloudy, even if that makes me an apostate.
I didn't know the iMac, iPod, iPhone, or iPad were in the works or coming. Everyone's crystal ball was cloudy. Apple is a success because they don't let the competition know what's coming so it will take longer for them to copy and catch up.

Steve learned the hard way when he gave Microsoft the rights to use the new Mac GIU on MS Office for Mac. Microsoft took it and got a head start on creating Windows, which darn near put Apple out of business in the early 90s.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:28 PM   #113
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C'mon...you call that pullback ?
Yeah, I'd call a drop around fiften percent a pullback, and I'd say someone hoping for a drop closer to 30% for a company doing this well, living in a fantasy.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:29 PM   #114
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You should try i understand what FUD means. I just reported the facts that all news outlets reported below the headlines.
I said "He always comes here trying to spread his FUD", in direct reference to YOU. Which is a true statement, a fact. Like I said not even a nice try. Go spread your Apple hatred elsewhere.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:30 PM   #115
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i guess tim's comment just now about keeping the air and pro lines separate pretty much kills the conversion rumour!
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:31 PM   #116
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i guess tim's comment just now about keeping the air and pro lines separate pretty much kills the conversion rumour!
Oh, you can be certain the rumors will still fly. There's always someone trying to be ahead of Apple.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:31 PM   #117
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C'mon...you call that pullback ? AAPL can run $20-$30 up and down a day with no reason...I was looking for at least $500/share.

Most people call an almost 11% drop in stock price in 2 weeks a huge buying opportunity. Here's their chart for the past 2 weeks. Again my question to you is, where the hell were you?
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:31 PM   #118
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i guess tim's comment just now about keeping the air and pro lines separate pretty much kills the conversion rumour!
He was talking about conversion between the iPad and MacBook Air.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:33 PM   #119
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Been long...staying long (will buy another 10% thur)

price target with 6 months=$763 (trades at 11 times earnings...average company in history s@p trades at 14 times) you do the math... :-)
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 04:34 PM   #120
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Been long...staying long (will buy another 10% thur)

price target with 6 months=$763 (trades at 11 times earnings...average company in history s@p trades at 14 times) you do the math... :-)
Same here. Been long on Apple since 2008.
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I didn't know the iMac, iPod, iPhone, or iPad were in the works or coming. Everyone's crystal ball was cloudy. Apple is a success because they don't let the competition know what's coming so it will take longer for them to copy and catch up.
Right, but it's the people who think they know what's coming next and how well it will do that give me a laugh. For one thing, they don't know, and for another, they probably don't appreciate how this trick becomes progressively more difficult to pull off.

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He was talking about conversion between the iPad and MacBook Air.
Ah, serves me right for only listening with one ear.
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Those numbers tell that providers that sold most iPhone (AT&T) gained fewer new customers indicating that iPhone does not draw new customers anymore and thus making people think that providers simply have no incentives anymore to overpay for iPhone. It does sound logical to me.


Riddle me this Batman. You're the CEO of ATT or Verizon. You have one quarter where new customer growth was down. What do you do?
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Cook has too much leverage. Apple could just buy ATT and become it's own carrier. Now that would get other carriers pissed off.
Cook would never buy AT&T. It doesn't fit their culture or business model. Usually the only reasons you buy other companies is to merge them into your current operations, or get their customers and shut them down. AT&T wouldn't fit into either of these scenarios.
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