Do you think the 4s will still be "in competition" w/ cellphones in the next year

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 12:45 AM

I thought this will be interesting topic

Do most of you think the relatively new iPhone 4s will still be in "competition" with other brand cellphones in the one year time (or year and a half)

I personally think it will because some lately released HTC, Samsung, etc smartphones are still being compared to the two year old iPhone 4 and coming up short or at least even.

What are your thoughts?

ntrigue · Apr 28, 2012, 01:01 AM

Do I think the 4S when 15 months old will have competition? Um yes.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 03:17 AM

Come on guys

What do you all think

FeaRThiS · Apr 28, 2012, 03:56 AM

The iPhone 4S isnt even the best phone on the the market now well at least not on paper anyway. There are plenty of phones with more ram, faster cpus, better gpus, and much better cameras. Yes the iPhone 4S will still be a decent phone in 18 months but that isnt due to the hardware its due to the os. My gf still uses a iphone 3gs which runs much better than a lot of higher spec android phones.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FeaRThiS

The iPhone 4S isnt even the best phone on the the market now well at least not on paper anyway. There are plenty of phones with more ram, faster cpus, better gpus, and much better cameras. Yes the iPhone 4S will still be a decent phone in 18 months but that isnt due to the hardware its due to the os. My gf still uses a iphone 3gs which runs much better than a lot of higher spec android phones.

You you think the iPhone 4s will be like how the 4 is now? which is old but still "in the game"

FeaRThiS · Apr 28, 2012, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Iphoneattack

You you think the iPhone 4s will be like how the 4 is now? which is old but still "in the game"

Yes I cant see any real reason why not according to apple it would be pointless to make a screen any better as the 4 has a retina display already. The cpu isn't exactly slow and there is only so much you can do on a device with this screen size. Cameras will always be improved but its a phone so who really cares.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FeaRThiS

Yes I cant see any real reason why not according to apple it would be pointless to make a screen any better as the 4 has a retina display already. The cpu isn't exactly slow and there is only so much you can do on a device with this screen size. Cameras will always be improved but its a phone so who really cares.

I dont lol

matttye · Apr 28, 2012, 05:49 AM

I don't see many phones being compared to the iPhone 4, but I mainly follow high end devices, and I'd imagine that only today's mid range devices are on par with the iPhone 4.

There are already phones with significantly better hardware than the 4S, but it's the software that most users like, so it more than likely will still be selling well next year.

macingman · Apr 28, 2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Iphoneattack

Come on guys

What do you all think

Considering apple still sells the 3GS as a cheap prepaid option and it sells quite well still I'll say yes the 4S will still be a good competitor to other phones. Perhaps not at the higher end of the market but as a entry level option yes.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by macingman

Considering apple still sells the 3GS as a cheap prepaid option and it sells quite well still I'll say yes the 4S will still be a good competitor to other phones. Perhaps not at the higher end of the market but as a entry level option yes.

Not entry level

Maybe mid to higher mid level?

Many people I ask if they would prefer a galaxy note or any HTC, or Xperia they reply by saying they will take a iPhone 4 over them anyday

And I think HTC, xperia, galaxy note or any other galaxy is a high end phone.

matttye · Apr 28, 2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Iphoneattack

Not entry level

Maybe mid to higher mid level?

Many people I ask if they would prefer a galaxy note or any HTC, or Xperia they reply by saying they will take a iPhone 4 over them anyday

And I think HTC, xperia, galaxy note or any other galaxy is a high end phone.

That's because Apple is a "cool" brand. People think they're cool for buying Apple products. I see this kind of thinking everywhere. Apple are excellent at marketing

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 06:35 AM

So is the general consensus for 4s Being a relevant and good smartphone in the next year or so a yay or nay?

cynics · Apr 28, 2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Iphoneattack

So is the general consensus for 4s Being a relevant and good smartphone in the next year or so a yay or nay?

? Its all a matter of opinion. It depends on what you need a smartphone to do. This is an iPhone forum. You should be able to answer this question before even asking it.

I'll save you some time. IPhone fans will say yay, however android fans will say nay, and windows fans will say meh.

FeaRThiS · Apr 28, 2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cynics

ifans will say yay, however android fans will say nay, and windows fans will say meh.

Made me LOL.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FeaRThiS

Made me LOL.

I don't get it lol

Why would windows fans say meh?

Sedrick · Apr 28, 2012, 07:02 AM

It's funny that you no longer see sites comparing new phones to the iPhone: only for size because they all have larger screens.

No one thinks the iPhone is the best phone (hardware-wise) out there anymore and Apple needs to do something about it this October.

Like an old BMW, it's living on past glory, but that won't last forever.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedrick

It's funny that you no longer see sites comparing new phones to the iPhone: only for size because they all have larger screens.

No one thinks the iPhone is the best phone (hardware-wise) out there anymore and Apple needs to do something about it this October.

Like an old BMW, it's living on past glory, but that won't last forever.

What are you on about

Here in Australia it's iPhone all the way

HTC, Samsung galaxy and xperias are like the budget iPhone even when on a Australian service provider site like Telstra, Optus, Virgin or Vodafone to buy a phone, the iPhone has its own link and all the others are listed under "phones"

Heck I don't think anyone calls them mobile phones or cell phones anymore. They call them iPhones lol

doubledown7d · Apr 28, 2012, 07:51 AM

"In competition", no. Relevant, absolutely. I tunes, app ecosystem, and saturation will keep it a good choice for a good while. Also, if the new iphone goes bigger, there will always be people who prefer a smaller experience.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by doubledown7d

"In competition", no.

Why not?

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Let me just add that by competition I mean in the eyes of a average joe not phone experts.

SGMD1 · Apr 28, 2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iphoneattack

some lately released HTC, Samsung, etc smartphones are still being compared to the two year old iPhone 4 and coming up short or at least even.

This isn't even remotely accurate. For starters, essentially every new Samsung and HTC device is 4G LTE-capable, which already makes them significantly better than any iPhone.

sulpfiction · Apr 28, 2012, 08:17 AM

Does the iPhone 4 still sell & work well?

Question answered.

Iphoneattack · Apr 28, 2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SGMD1

This isn't even remotely accurate. For starters, essentially every new Samsung and HTC device is 4G LTE-capable, which already makes them significantly better than any iPhone.

Yes. BUt many average joe customers don't pay attention to that

silverdogz · Apr 28, 2012, 08:21 AM

The 4S will survive as long as Android or Windows Phone don't come up with a worthy Siri competitor. Siri is one of the main reasons why people want the iPhone 4S.

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SurferMan · Apr 28, 2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by silverdogz

The 4S will survive as long as Android or Windows Phone don't come up with a worthy Siri competitor. Siri is one of the main reasons why people want the iPhone 4S.

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Kinda doubt it, we don't use Siri and pretty much none of our friends do either. I don't even use the voice on the GSII unless for navigation and searching while driving.

w00t951 · Apr 28, 2012, 11:31 AM

Just a note - the iPhone's A5 is pretty much #1 on graphics benchmarks. A5X is #1 in next-gen graphics benchmarks. Apple's OS is efficient, so CPU cycles are not wasted. Therefore an 800Mhz dual core A9 (Apple A5) feels faster than a 1.4GHz quad core A9 (Tegra 3). However, graphics muscle is necessary for great games, so Apple put a blazing fast GPU in the A-series.

Apr 28, 2012, 12:45 AM	#1
Iphoneattack macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2012	Do you think the 4s will still be "in competition" w/ cellphones in the next year I thought this will be interesting topic Do most of you think the relatively new iPhone 4s will still be in "competition" with other brand cellphones in the one year time (or year and a half) I personally think it will because some lately released HTC, Samsung, etc smartphones are still being compared to the two year old iPhone 4 and coming up short or at least even. What are your thoughts?
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Apr 28, 2012, 03:17 AM	#3
Iphoneattack Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2012	Come on guys What do you all think
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matttye macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln, England	I don't see many phones being compared to the iPhone 4, but I mainly follow high end devices, and I'd imagine that only today's mid range devices are on par with the iPhone 4. There are already phones with significantly better hardware than the 4S, but it's the software that most users like, so it more than likely will still be selling well next year. __________________ iPad 2 16GB Black (WiFi+3G) (iOS 6.1.3) -- iPhone 5 64GB White (iOS 6.1.3).
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Apr 28, 2012, 06:35 AM	#12
Iphoneattack Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2012	So is the general consensus for 4s Being a relevant and good smartphone in the next year or so a yay or nay?
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Apr 28, 2012, 03:56 AM	#4
FeaRThiS macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2011	The iPhone 4S isnt even the best phone on the the market now well at least not on paper anyway. There are plenty of phones with more ram, faster cpus, better gpus, and much better cameras. Yes the iPhone 4S will still be a decent phone in 18 months but that isnt due to the hardware its due to the os. My gf still uses a iphone 3gs which runs much better than a lot of higher spec android phones.
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Apr 28, 2012, 07:02 AM	#16
Sedrick macrumors 68020 Join Date: Nov 2010	It's funny that you no longer see sites comparing new phones to the iPhone: only for size because they all have larger screens. No one thinks the iPhone is the best phone (hardware-wise) out there anymore and Apple needs to do something about it this October. Like an old BMW, it's living on past glory, but that won't last forever. __________________ iPod Nano, iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPad 2
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Apr 28, 2012, 07:51 AM	#18
doubledown7d macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2011	"In competition", no. Relevant, absolutely. I tunes, app ecosystem, and saturation will keep it a good choice for a good while. Also, if the new iphone goes bigger, there will always be people who prefer a smaller experience.
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Apr 28, 2012, 08:17 AM	#21
sulpfiction macrumors 68000 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Philadelphia Area	Does the iPhone 4 still sell & work well? Question answered.
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Apr 28, 2012, 08:21 AM	#23
silverdogz macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington,USA	The 4S will survive as long as Android or Windows Phone don't come up with a worthy Siri competitor. Siri is one of the main reasons why people want the iPhone 4S. Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express __________________ 15" Aluminium Macbook Pro, 2.33 GHz, 2GB RAM, 300 GB HD ; 8GB iPhone 3GS; Samsung Focus S. man.
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w00t951 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seoul/Pittsburgh	Just a note - the iPhone's A5 is pretty much #1 on graphics benchmarks. A5X is #1 in next-gen graphics benchmarks. Apple's OS is efficient, so CPU cycles are not wasted. Therefore an 800Mhz dual core A9 (Apple A5) feels faster than a 1.4GHz quad core A9 (Tegra 3). However, graphics muscle is necessary for great games, so Apple put a blazing fast GPU in the A-series. __________________ MacBook Pro (Mac OS 10.8.3), Galaxy Nexus (Android 4.2.2), iPhone 5 (iOS 6.1.4)
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