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Old Apr 30, 2012, 07:34 AM   #101
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The Sandy Bridge Xeon should be even faster as it will be a 8 core CPU. ( so i guess you can customize it to a 16-core Sandy Bridge Mac Pro )
The processors used in the 2010 Mac Pro have all been replaced by Sandy Bridge E5-1600 and E5-2600 Xeons. These are what Apple will use in the next Mac Pro, probably giving 4, 6, 12 and 16 core options. The Ivy Bridge processors coming out soon - June is the latest date by the way for the E3 Xeons - only offer better performance than one processor option Apple should use and the platform is still weaker overall.

Ivy Bridge Xeons suitable for the Mac Pro won't be available before this time next year.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 09:51 AM   #102
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I guess we are not the only ones waiting for new computers:. Intel seems to be having lots of supply problems lately. From hardmac today:

While the new Ivy Bridge chips have officially been launched and many PC manufacturers have announced new models, it seems that the available stock of the new chips is rather limited. In fact, the new chip is not featured in a single computer currently on the market and several manufacturers such as ACER decided to differ the launch of their models that will ship first in Japan starting tomorrow, then in the rest of the world later this year.

The situation could be quite irritating for customers waiting for the new models, but it could be very tricky for all the manufacturers that still have to sell products fraturing older chips and that haven't launched their new models. The beginning of May could very well be an empty period for the computer market. If that period remains short, there will be no major consequence, but things could get serious if it was lasting until summer.

In the mean time, we will keep a close eye on the Apple Store as we wait for the new Mac models. It is the longest period of time without new models since Apple switched from PPC to Intel.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 10:00 AM   #103
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Check out the UK Apple Store, the Mac Pros dispatch time just took a beating xD.

They were at 1-3 business days this morning, now at 5-7 business days.
http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/hom...family/mac_pro


Edit: seems to be the same for other European stores (eg. france, spain)
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 10:45 AM   #104
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Same here for swedish stores, not in stock, ships in 5-7 days for all models beside the server. Fingers crossed!
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:00 AM   #105
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I think it's looking pretty good for new Mac Pros. I am SO ready to ditch this jet engine sitting on top of my desk.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:01 AM   #106
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Are the new thunderbolt chips shipping yet?
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:09 AM   #107
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Are the new thunderbolt chips shipping yet?
I'd like to know this as well. I am really looking forward to this refresh. My 06
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:18 AM   #108
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The processors used in the 2010 Mac Pro have all been replaced by Sandy Bridge E5-1600 and E5-2600 Xeons. These are what Apple will use in the next Mac Pro, probably giving 4, 6, 12 and 16 core options. The Ivy Bridge processors coming out soon - June is the latest date by the way for the E3 Xeons - only offer better performance than one processor option Apple should use and the platform is still weaker overall.

Ivy Bridge Xeons suitable for the Mac Pro won't be available before this time next year.
They're saying Q2 of next year currently. I kind of wonder where that puts Haswell for the mac pro. Will they keep that socket type a year behind the consumer models? It seems like a bigger issue on tock years, but I can't imagine they'd wish to leave it this way.

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I think it's looking pretty good for new Mac Pros. I am SO ready to ditch this jet engine sitting on top of my desk.
By jet engine, you mean a macbook pro?
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:23 AM   #109
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Release tomorrow??

What do you think are the chances of a release tomorrow?
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:28 AM   #110
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What do you think are the chances of a release tomorrow?
I'd say pretty decent, actually. Maybe Thursday too. I'd be inclined to give it a 40% chance on the scale of "totally pulling these numbers out of nowhere."
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:29 AM   #111
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What do you think are the chances of a release tomorrow?
Not much of a chance.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 11:32 AM   #112
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Not much of a chance.
Dude, where is my mac pro?

I have to admit that as a 32 year old man I should not be this excited about a computer, but I am like a kid on Xmas day.*
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 12:14 PM   #113
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If there isn't an announcement this week, I think we're either looking at June around all the other Macs release or if not, then it might be stick a fork in it time. Since it appears that the Ivy line is a bit late to get moving as well, at least a Mac Pro now would help keep something Mac in the news I would think.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 12:21 PM   #114
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If there isn't an announcement this week, I think we're either looking at June around all the other Macs release or if not, then it might be stick a fork in it time. Since it appears that the Ivy line is a bit late to get moving as well, at least a Mac Pro now would help keep something Mac in the news I would think.
Even if it's stick a fork in it time, there will be an announcement.

Any way any thing goes in any direction there will be an announcement.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 12:28 PM   #115
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Even if it's stick a fork in it time, there will be an announcement.

Any way any thing goes in any direction there will be an announcement.
It seems like ages since the last time Apple made any sort of announcement other than WWDC. Certainly a long time since any Mac related announcement.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 12:28 PM   #116
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If they don't change the box of the MP, then there is a chance for tomorrow. But if it changes, I can't remember a time when they changed the tower significantly without having a deal on stage.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 12:40 PM   #117
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Same here for swedish stores, not in stock, ships in 5-7 days for all models beside the server. Fingers crossed!
True for the german online store, too.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 01:06 PM   #118
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If they don't change the box of the MP, then there is a chance for tomorrow. But if it changes, I can't remember a time when they changed the tower significantly without having a deal on stage.
If they really were "questioning" the continuation of the line, I can't see them spending anything on r&d'ing a new box unless they have drastically re-thought this product.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 01:52 PM   #119
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It seems like ages since the last time Apple made any sort of announcement other than WWDC. Certainly a long time since any Mac related announcement.
Well, I didn't necessarily mean Tim-Cook-Gets-Up-On-A-Stage announcement. I meant something getting posted to their website.

Edit: Ohhhh. You mean when they announced WWDC. Yeah, dunno. A Mac Pro death announcement may not be much more than a support notice, and a new Mac Pro might not be more than a press release. Still not expecting something fantastic.

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If they don't change the box of the MP, then there is a chance for tomorrow. But if it changes, I can't remember a time when they changed the tower significantly without having a deal on stage.
I don't know if I'd bet on a significant change. Regardless, the Intel iMac has seen significant case changes with no stage announcement. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with the new Macbook Pros. Apple has already said they're moving away from announcements like that.

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Old Apr 30, 2012, 03:01 PM   #120
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Base model sold out at all except 1. due may 4th.
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Base model sold out at all except 1. due may 4th.
You will find that the available date changes with each day that passes.

It said available April 24th a week ago. Check in a couple of days and the May 4th date will probably be May 7th etc..
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You will find that the available date changes with each day that passes.

It said available April 24th a week ago. Check in a couple of days and the May 4th date will probably be May 7th etc..
yeah it seems like the date is based on how long it will take them to ship the computer you buy to the store near you. which means none of the apple stores are really stocking them on their own.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 03:21 PM   #123
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Unfortunately I don't think these inventory anomalies mean anything. I'm surprised anyone would actually "stock" Mac Pros at this late date before an overdue refresh.
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Unfortunately I don't think these inventory anomalies mean anything. I'm surprised anyone would actually "stock" Mac Pros at this late date before an overdue refresh.
Best Buy running out of stock is extremely suspicious, as they'd be outside of Apple's "we don't stock the Mac Pros at retail any more" decision process.
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 03:35 PM   #125
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You're not gonna see a new Mac Pro until WWDC if at all.
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