Elder Scrolls MMO Coming to the Mac in 2013

Please. can Oblivion and Skyrim come native to mac as well?

Don't want Feral or Aspyr to make a port.

My life will curse this game definitely.

This game is going to be badass. I've been waiting for any word on it since 2006. Matt Firor, the lead of ZeniMax Online, was the lead on DAoC back in its glory days. I played DAoC for years, and it had hands down the best PvP ever in an MMO. it's because you need 3 factions to make great PvP, and I am so happy to hear they will go this route in Elder Scrolls Online. The Elder Scrolls universe is a perfect fit for an MMO. All the deep lore and rich world will make an incredible online world. I am so exited to see more on this game. Now I have to figure out what I'm going to do between now and late 2013 lol

Have to say I was shocked to hear about the Mac port. I'm used to having to beg for an eventual port (only to know that it will never happen).

It would be nice if they brought Skyrim to the mac as well.

Frozzie said:

Please. can Oblivion and Skyrim come native to mac as well?

Don't want Feral or Aspyr to make a port.

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I'd rather have Feral do it. They make excellent ports. If Bethesda did so it would most likely be Cider.

Cougarcat said:

I'd rather have Feral do it. They make excellent ports. If Bethesda did so it would most likely be Cider.

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crafty little pun in there!

Cougarcat said:

I'd rather have Feral do it. They make excellent ports. If Bethesda did so it would most likely be Cider.

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But then it will be so overpriced... if Bethesda did it even if it is a Cider it will come out on Steam, so whenever there is a sale you can pick it up really cheap. If that doesn't work out, play on Windows. Much better value for money.

It is always pleasing hearing good titles come over to OS X, even though it may have been many of years.

There needs to be more companies like Blizzard who release big titles simultaneously on both Windows as well as OS X. I wonder how many more sales a modern game would have for Mac if it were released at the same time.

Darkness II on the mac app store at £20.99 :roll eyes:

The games just keep coming in

Frozzie said:

But then it will be so overpriced... if Bethesda did it even if it is a Cider it will come out on Steam, so whenever there is a sale you can pick it up really cheap. If that doesn't work out, play on Windows. Much better value for money.

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If the port is crap, then it would be a worse value for the money.

Cougarcat said:

If the port is crap, then it would be a worse value for the money.

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Didn't thought ports are bad in general - are there any games which are made by famous companies and are full of bugs that are unplayable?

Frozzie said:

Didn't thought ports are bad in general - are there any games which are made by famous companies and are full of bugs that are unplayable?

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The recent Witcher Wine port doesn't work for many people. In general, performance is never as good as a native port.

With ubisoft's native ports, I've experienced low performance, app loading issues, and keyboard input problems. Never had a problem with a Feral port.

Hey folks, not exactly a Mac or Elder Scrolls question (but I figure this is the right group) - what would you say is the best dungeon crawler for the iPhone so far? My preference is for first person, but not a requirement.

Frozzie said:

Please. can Oblivion and Skyrim come native to mac as well?

Don't want Feral or Aspyr to make a port.

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I dont know, with bootcamp i don't care as much as i used to about ports

OpenGL is not really as good DirectX 11 - which is a shame

I'm really excited for this. I just hope Apple doesn't gimp the next MacBook Pro with a Air design. Otherwise I don't know if it could handle a game like this.

*crosses fingers*

Off topic - buy I wish Lord of the Rings Online was on the Mac!!

shardey said:

It is always pleasing hearing good titles come over to OS X, even though it may have been many of years.

There needs to be more companies like Blizzard who release big titles simultaneously on both Windows as well as OS X. I wonder how many more sales a modern game would have for Mac if it were released at the same time.

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While I dislike defending the drought of ports, often times the game engines running the games aren't even compatible with OS X (e.g. Star Wars: The Old Republic's HeroEngine is not). Honestly, I'd be happy if companies would at least give a straight answer of "no never", "yes but later and you won't get a free copy if you buy the windows version", "yes and you get a free/discounted copy" or something other than deafening silence or maybes. Because as far as I'm concerned those later answers usually mean "we'll port it years later when we need some more cash and no one on the PC side will buy it for full price" which is a bit insulting.

Edit: And no offense to the mac porting houses. It isn't their fault.

macbeta said:

OpenGL is not really as good DirectX 11 - which is a shame

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You mean, the Apple's drivers aren't as good. API wise there isn't much difference.

On topic: Bethesda can't even make a good bug-free single player game without clunky mechanics and non-functional leveling system, do you really expect its MMORPG to be any better? Look at Bioware and its STWOR fail — when the main advertising point of an MMO is 'we have fully voiced quests', you can be sure that there will be something terribly wrong with the gameplay itself.

The only MMO I wish had native Mac support is Guild Wars 2, been playing the beta and its easily the best game of the genre.

leman said:

You mean, the Apple's drivers aren't as good. API wise there isn't much difference.

On topic: Bethesda can't even make a good bug-free single player game without clunky mechanics and non-functional leveling system, do you really expect its MMORPG to be any better? Look at Bioware and its STWOR fail — when the main advertising point of an MMO is 'we have fully voiced quests', you can be sure that there will be something terribly wrong with the gameplay itself.

The only MMO I wish had native Mac support is Guild Wars 2, been playing the beta and its easily the best game of the genre.

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No,Have you seen how big the map is,It takes them 3-4 years to make the game you expect it to be bug free?

I'm more interested in it being a good game and not some clone of another MMO, it seems to be very hard for MMOs to innovate these days.

This game is the death of The Elder Scrolls series. Just like "SWTOR" was the death of the Knights of the Old Republic series. For me anyways. RIP.

macbook pro i5 said:

No,Have you seen how big the map is,It takes them 3-4 years to make the game you expect it to be bug free?

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What has a size of the map to do with a game being bug free or not? Programming a game is a totally different issue from designing and modeling the terrain. If anything, I expect a game which has been in development for long time to have LESS bugs, because the programmers should have had enough time to test/optimize/update their code.

Some bugs are unavoidable of course. But a bug which crashes the software or makes you loose your save game are totally unacceptable.

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RichardBeer said:

I'm more interested in it being a good game and not some clone of another MMO, it seems to be very hard for MMOs to innovate these days.

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Guild Wars 2

Building a better game engine.

Hopefully they are building a better game engine that is more portable rather than using Cider, regardless of if the developer does it or leaves it to Feral or Asyper to wrap the DX code and "port" it to OSX. Thankfully it seems more and more game companies seem to be seeing OSX in their perifial vision, thanks in large part to the success of iOS. Unreal has built their game engine to write once and build out to OpenGL & DX. iD software has also as well as Valve so hopefully we will continue to see this trend. I was hoping that after Valve brought Steam to OSX that we would see a major shift in how comapnies view gaming on other platforms. It seems however many developers are still just wrapping their DX code and publishing it through steam. Hopefully this will change and as the major studios continue to move their game engines to support both OpenGL and DX. Hopefully as Valve moves Steam to Linux more developers will return to Open standards rather than MS only technologies.