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Old May 5, 2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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Verizon Iphone 4s ????????

After seeing AT&T release a update and now AT&T's iphone show 4g on the screen and is also considerably faster will verizon ever do the same thing or is this wishful thinking?
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Old May 5, 2012, 10:43 PM   #2
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The AT&T ones say 4G because it's runs on their "4G" network which is what they consider their hsdpa network. Verizon still uses the same 3G CDMA network. Therefore, no 4G indicator.
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Old May 5, 2012, 10:48 PM   #3
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After seeing AT&T release a update and now AT&T's iphone show 4g on the screen and is also considerably faster will verizon ever do the same thing or is this wishful thinking?
The AT&T phone is the same speed as it was before the 5.1 update. It just now says 4G.
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Old May 6, 2012, 03:46 AM   #4
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The AT&T phone is the same speed as it was before the 5.1 update. It just now says 4G.
Maybe, maybe not. I've been experiencing faster speeds lately. AT&T has definately been doing something in my region.

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Old May 6, 2012, 07:32 AM   #5
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Maybe, maybe not. I've been experiencing faster speeds lately. AT&T has definately been doing something in my region.

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Old May 6, 2012, 08:01 PM   #6
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what I am wondering is if verizon will ever update their 3g towers to be like At&T
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Old May 6, 2012, 08:26 PM   #7
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No, they've already "bet" on LTE, as has everyone else.

At some point in the not-very-distant-future, all up-to-date networks will be running some form of LTE.

Soon, people will be arguing the merits of TD-LTE vs. FD-LTE and bandwidth, band and so on. LTE is a really "wide" standard in that there are a ton of variations that can take place within the standard.
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Old May 6, 2012, 08:30 PM   #8
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No, they've already "bet" on LTE, as has everyone else.

At some point in the not-very-distant-future, all up-to-date networks will be running some form of LTE.

Soon, people will be arguing the merits of TD-LTE vs. FD-LTE and bandwidth, band and so on. LTE is a really "wide" standard in that there are a ton of variations that can take place within the standard.
so will the verizon 4s soon be operating on the LTE network?
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Old May 6, 2012, 08:33 PM   #9
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so will the verizon 4s soon be operating on the LTE network?
You are a newb!

Only the next version of the iPhone will take advantage of the LTE speeds. AT&T just markets their HSPA+ as 4G. It's more like 3G+. 4G is LTE and that's not even true 4G speeds, yet.

As for your increased speeds they probably increased the backhaul.
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so will the verizon 4s soon be operating on the LTE network?
No. That will be the "iPhone 5" or "the new iPhone" or whatever Apple decides to call it.
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Old May 6, 2012, 08:38 PM   #11
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You are a newb!

Only the next version of the iPhone will take advantage of the LTE speeds. AT&T just markets their HSPA+ as 4G. It's more like 3G+. 4G is LTE and that's not even true 4G speeds, yet.

As for your increased speeds they probably increased the backhaul.
NEWB ohhhh ouch sorry for not KNOWING everything, thats why I am asking questions. I know what 4G is maybe i am just asking my question wrong. Lets try this will the 4s ever get an increase in download speed like AT&T
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You are a newb!

Only the next version of the iPhone will take advantage of the LTE speeds. AT&T just markets their HSPA+ as 4G. It's more like 3G+. 4G is LTE and that's not even true 4G speeds, yet.

As for your increased speeds they probably increased the backhaul.
Be nice...

Also, there are a very large number of items that AT&T could have done to the cell site besides backhaul improvements which would result in better throughput.
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After seeing AT&T release a update and now AT&T's iphone show 4g on the screen and is also considerably faster will verizon ever do the same thing or is this wishful thinking?
Yes, Verizon will do the same if the next iphone is LTE enabled and LTE service is available in your local area.
But even if they do you will not get any faster speeds staying with your verizon 4S.

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what I am wondering is if verizon will ever update their 3g towers to be like At&T
No, their CDMA 3G will never be as fast as AT&T's HSPA+ that in some areas gets 9-10mpbs.
Its not something that can be upgraded like that without getting a new iphone with possibly an LTE chip.
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Be nice...

Also, there are a very large number of items that AT&T could have done to the cell site besides backhaul improvements which would result in better throughput.
Verizon 4S is currently as fast as it will ever be.
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NEWB ohhhh ouch sorry for not KNOWING everything, thats why I am asking questions. I know what 4G is maybe i am just asking my question wrong. Lets try this will the 4s ever get an increase in download speed like AT&T
How??? Verizon has their 4G LTE network that is 10 times faster then at&t's hspa+ network. It's the iPhone that isn't compatible with verizons LTE network, It's not something that Verizon is doing to limit the iPhone. Plus, AT&T's hspa+ isn't much faster then VZW's 3G. You want real speed, Verizons LTE network is what u want. And the iPhone 4S will never be able to get it.
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Verizon 4S is currently as fast as it will ever be.
Never said anything different.
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Never said anything different.
Sorry I meant to quote the Op's post.
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so will the verizon 4s soon be operating on the LTE network?
Wow please do some research before posting
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Old May 6, 2012, 10:35 PM   #19
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Wow please do some research before posting
i worded that wrong so chill out geeeeeez
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Lets try this will the 4s ever get an increase in download speed like AT&T
Read posts 3 & 9 in this thread again (and feel free to corroborate with other sources). The 4s isn't any faster than it was previously on at&t.

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Maybe, maybe not. I've been experiencing faster speeds lately. AT&T has definately been doing something in my region.
There's no "maybe" about it. The 4s is still only an HSPA+ device and not LTE. Any speed increase is not due to a magic change in its specs. There are other variables (congestion, backhaul, tower placement etc) that can affect your speed and that's what your experiencing.

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i worded that wrong so chill out geeeeeez
Wording has nothing to do with it. At&t decided to call HSPA+ "4G" even though it's really just 3G. Verizon won't do the same because they don't have an HSPA+ network. Again, the 4s isn't any faster on at&t. It just says 4G instead of 3G. It's like if you decide to write "300 mph" at the upper limit of your car's speedometer. Your car doesn't go any faster either.

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