Yes, but if "what you do" involves lots of transferring data between external drives, then Ivy Bridge and hopefully USB 3.0 support on new macs will be worth waiting for.
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Apple Jumps to #17 in Fortune 500 Rankings
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Yes, but if "what you do" involves lots of transferring data between external drives, then Ivy Bridge and hopefully USB 3.0 support on new macs will be worth waiting for.
Did you not read the article?! They are #3 in profit, closely followed by Microsoft. Wal-mart is #10.
I know I'll get about 1000 down arrows for this 🙂, but I truly think thar Apple is peaking right now in 2012-2013. I think there is no way they sustain anywhere near this growth or profitability especially if they continue to lag behind in hardware and software technology, even if their execution and ecosystems remain strong. We've seen very little real innovation from Apple in the last 2 years and I think the Apple TV route is going to be a long term mistake although I'm sure it'll be hugely successful in the short run. The competition is really heating up now in terms of quality products and innovation. Apple can't sustain relying on marketing and fanboyism for much longer, at least as much as they have in the past, especially after losing their cult-inducing leader. Apple makes good products but purposely holding back technology so that people will buy the next product especially in light of having a single new release product in the phone / tablet market only updated once a year is not going to fly for much longer.
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Um...Do you not read the rest of the posts? This has been said 3 times already. 😛
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Um...Do you not read the rest of the posts? This has been said 3 times already. 😛
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So, don't buy anything from Apple and get some education about how business works and switch on spell check, and, and.........................
BaldiMac
macrumors G3
I sure wish I would have bought some Apple stock in there early years. The funny thing is my mom had a couple of shares with Apple but sold all of them before apple became this mega company.
DakotaGuy
macrumors 601
Actually those are pretty impressive, but I am more impressed that Ford Motor Company made $20.8 billion in profit considering they were just about bankrupt and lost $14.6 billion in 2008.
Now that's a turn around. Wow.
acearchie
macrumors 68040
But at the same time there is a much higher profit margin on a virtual product rather than a physical one therefore it makes sense that microsoft have the larger profit margins.
Glassed Silver
macrumors 68020
This would be true, if they were in the same playing fields.
Apple is a hardware company, whilst Microsoft is a software company.
Hence, Apple has NATURALLY more costs than Microsoft does.
They can't fix it with being better alone, they'd have to stomp and Microsoft fail at their specific fields specifically.
Taking into account how Apple has costs that are natural to them, and Microsoft being able to almost create profit out of thin air with some of their products (once R&D and marketing has been covered with enough copies) this figure seems rather crappy for Microsoft if anything - especially when you look at where they are in their business. 😉
Still trying to figure out whether I should bother showing you why you're wrong... Hmmm...
Okay, out of the MANY MANY pages I could write about this, let me just drop one example:
Microsoft, Metro, desktops.
Doesn't come close to the plethora of arguments one could mention now against most of your statements, but I can't be bothered. ^^
Glassed Silver:mac
No, this is all historical data so it actually has nothing to do with the stock price. The price of AAPL is a reflection of expected cash flows in the future.
Well, there's another opinion. 🙄 Yes, yours are in fact OPINIONS, just like mine.
SPUY767
macrumors 68020
Apple is a hardware company, Microsoft is a software company. You don't need an economics degree to realize that making tangible objects costs more money than burning ones and zeros to disc.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
I know! I want my 2008 Mac Pro (the new ones will make the used ones cheaper).
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Apparently, nobody cares. They sell it at whatever the market determines is the right price. It's not all about how much the parts for the device cost. Like someone else said, MS sells discs for way more than it costs to make them.
I'd take a well-built, thoughtful Mac over a glue-and-bubble-gum Windows PC. So will eBay when I sell it in a couple of years for not much less than I bought it for (low $/year cost).
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I remember the Stock Market Club at my school in which people bought fake stocks. People bought McDonald's based on the fact that they closed 2% up that day 🙄. Needless to say, I got 3rd place out of 30 even though I pretty much abandoned my account halfway through. The AAPL in it helped.
Rafterman
macrumors 604
Hmmm. Anyone notice that Apple's best rankings were under John Sculley and its worst were under Steve Jobs, at least for the first half of his tenure? If it wasn't for the iPhone and iPad bailing out his second half, one has to wonder if Jobs would have survived being CEO. I know ranking is just one of a myriad of factors in determining a company's true worth (and a CEO's true performance) but still, 325th? Ouch.
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
Well... I'd never buy a PC that can't run Mac OS. I know this sounds fanboy-ish, but I don't even trust MS anymore with anything. I have never been satisfied with any of their products. They never made anything but rather copied and bought, and they have no pride in their products. I just saw an ad for IE claiming that it will "change the web forever". Their web browser, their search engine, their maps, their phones... everything is trash.
Windows 7, which was supposed to fix everything (as usual), even has mistakes in it like two "Open" buttons when you right-click certain files (and the default one doesn't work). Sometimes, logging in takes 10 minutes. Not having anything like Exposé besides a few little things like Snap is a real annoyance. Developing stuff on Windows is also annoying because of the lack of anything as nice as Xcode.
I loved the XBOX (not the 360) despite the fact that it wanted me to buy a remote just to watch DVDs on it. That changed when it got the red ring of death for no reason. My NES still works fine, and it's from 1985.
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faroZ06
macrumors 68040
Ugh... I don't want Apple to give in to stupid USB. People are probably just going to continue using 2.0 for their consumer products and things that don't require fast data transfer. It's pretty easy to resist the USB 3.0 movement on consumer products.
IEEE 1394 all the way!
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
faroZ06
macrumors 68040
Bones had this line, which is perfect for 1394:
Sadly, yes. But hey, it's still the standard for (H)DV camcorders, and a lot of hard drive enclosures use it.
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Four years ago the turtle-necked overlord declared 1394 to be dead, when it was dropped from new Apple laptops.
Any legacy 1394 usage will be quickly eliminated in favor of USB 3.0. 1394 has joined the floppy drive in the dustbin of obsolete technology.
Renzatic
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So where exactly are MS in their business at the moment? Are they..."made of fail"? "No longer relevant"? "A dying company"? I want to see how you'll spin this.