Apple Bringing Notes and Reminders to iCloud.com with iOS 6

chenks said:

yes.. so anywhere between 0% and 0.9999999999 (recurring) %

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Yep, and considering the total number of iCloud users is continuing to increase by the minute, it would be pointless to be so precise in the percentage that it's inaccurate by the time people see it.

A few years ago Gmail went "down" for a number of users and ended up losing all email for some of the affected accounts. Mine was one of those which wasn't recovered.

Outages happen, we all know they do, and we'll all get really annoyed if someone complains for every single one.

rctlr said:

Yes! This actually makes notes usable!

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This, and the fact that it will actually be a separate app under Mountain Lion

chenks said:

1% of 100 million users is 1 million. that's a fair amount of people affected.

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It would be interesting to see how 1% compares to other mail services which don't publish figures for their service status.

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BallsMcGee said:

You missed the point. How many iCloud users are there (I really have no clue what the number is)? Hence 1% of what.

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Ah right, at the last investor call (April 24th?), Apple's CFO said they had more than 125 million iCloud users.

swarmster said:

Any chance this means Notes will now actually sync to iCloud like everything else and not to some unwanted @me account it wants me to make?

I just want to read my notes on all my devices, but that's impossible without signing up for yet another e-mail address. Why is Notes so different?

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to have an icloud account you need an @me.com account.
nobody is forcing you to use the email account that comes with the icloud account though.

Mine do it via email...

Drunken Master said:

Sweet!

Now the notes I made on my iPhone can be brought up during meetings with my MBP.

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This IS the gradual build-up of an OS in the clouds.

This is probably the future of Apple. Just imagine what they can make out of this in the next decade.

Mark my words.

Yup, I reckon they'll be iOS style apps too that you can organize into folders. Looking forward to iTunes match on iCloud.com.

chenks said:

to have an icloud account you need an @me.com account.
nobody is forcing you to use the email account that comes with the icloud account though.

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I have an iCloud account. It uses the same e-mail address my Apple/iTunes account uses (not @me.com). When I check "Notes" in the iCloud settings it says "Create a free @me.com email address to turn on Notes", and I can only 'Create' or 'Cancel'

So it would seem that you don't need an @me.com account to have an iCloud account, but unlike everything else, you need one to use Notes.

Great! Yes!

Let's put everything on the iCloud. Private documents, personal photo's, personal this, personal that.

Yes, not only must you have to live in fear that some bloke in the computer repair shop will steal your ID and rob your bank account, when your computer / iDevice chokes.

You will also need to fear some 'clever' kid or an even 'cleverer' adult with a ounce of systems knowledge, or some random black hat with a grudge, to just hack iCloud whilst you think you are sleeping safe at night.

Security often only gets tightened once it has been breached; as the only way you know it needs tightening is when is has been breached. I am not going to be an Apple security 'miner's Canary'.

Don't tell me it cannot be done, it already has. I had to reset my PSN account twice! And all they had was my credit card details (which is not my money...). Imagine if I used my PSN account in the way I am being courted to use iCloud and stick my whole iWorld up there. Now that would be some incentive for a hacker....., no?

I will still be backing-up to local HD.

nickn said:

I don't, I immediately disabled it on all of my devices. How else can I get notes off my iPad though?

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Sync it with iTunes, look in Mail.app in the notes tab.

chenks said:

that's like saying racism doesn't exist because you've never encountered it!
congratulations on ever having any outage though, i'll drop you a congratulatory email once I can access my emails again!

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My point is: I don't care if iCloud only works 50% of the time for 99% of people, because it works 100% of the time for me.

i'd like to see a photostream viewer/editor on iCloud.com...

So, given what people have said: we are missing a PhotoStream viewer/editor, iMessage, and iTunes match. What else can be throw up there? FaceTime?

Perhaps some iWork and iLife apps if they want to follow in the direction Microsoft is developing the cloud?

Well, if we are thinking along those lines, heck, why not an App store for our iCloud.com?...

fabian9 said:

i'd like to see a photostream viewer/editor on iCloud.com...

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I'd like to see a version of iPhoto for OS X that isn't so glunky.

JohnDoe98 said:

So, given what people have said: we are missing a PhotoStream viewer/editor, iMessage, and iTunes match. What else can be throw up there? FaceTime?

Perhaps some iWork and iLife apps if they want to follow in the direction Microsoft is developing the cloud?

Well, if we are thinking along those lines, heck, why not an App store for our iCloud.com?...

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I think once they have native Apple apps in place they'll have 3rd party apps, folders etc. Wouldn't surprise me if they even released a iCloud based laptop in the distant future ala Chromebook...

I'd like to see better documentation tools. MS Word is utterly horrible for more complex functions, and it STILL blows Pages out of the water, and Pages is all I can use iWork for. Sigh. Why did Adobe discontinue FrameMaker for osx? If Apple had their own software on par with that, it would be a win. As it is, I can't use cloud storage easily for documents. Mail, Contacts, Calendar, sure. Anything beyond that, and it gets un-apple-like.

Carl Sagan said:

I think once they have native Apple apps in place they'll have 3rd party apps, folders etc. Wouldn't surprise me if they even released a iCloud based laptop in the distant future ala Chromebook...

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Ya that's the next step. Our home devices will only need internet and power for a screen. Imagine how slim and cheap those can be. All we need is screen sharing on the device, the cloud or server can do all the heavy computing. But that's still many years away, to be done well.

What does that icon at developer.icloud.com signify?

Some kind of way of easily collaborating in Xcode without github or anything?

Actually just realized a gaping flaw with my comment, you don't need an iCloud.com AppStore. You simply say any iOS/mac app using iCloud auto adds an iCloud app for it.

Photo Stream should also be brought to the web along with sharing to Twitter and Facebook directly from the web app.

I got the email a few days ago that my last .mac acct would finally be switching

This is amazing news - I really am considering moving from Google to iCloud, but I told myself I wouldn't do it until certain additions were made. Adding reminders and notes to the web interface was one of them (I think you could view them before, but they resided in mail and calendar respectively, which wasn't very clear where they were).

Now for the other changes I want before I consider moving to iCloud; show subscribed calendars that are subscribed through iCloud on iCal etc. in the web interface. At the minute you can subscribe to a calendar and change the location to "iCloud" rather than "On My Mac" and it'll show on all your iCloud enabled devices, but it won't show on the web interface. I think they should. Would be an improvement, IMO.

Add a feature to directly save files to iCloud like you could use iDisk, and allow access to iCloud storage through the web interface.

These two things would make a big difference to me, at the minute the calendar issue is a huge drawback for me personally, as I subscribe to a few calendars but would need some way of accessing them through a browser, like Google Calendar does.

Photostream would be great too, but two above I want more.

I still haven't figured out when I'd be able to access any of this information via the web, but not access it via the app on the mobile device. ...even quicker and more secure than a web browser. When is this web UI useful?

Apple created this great semi-intelligent cloud built around the concept that the more invisible it is, the better, which seems to be the right way forward evidenced by the popularity of iCloud and Dropbox...

what's the UI for?

Well maybe Apple is building a way for devs to build an iCloud UI for their apps in the same way that iWork has a spot on iCloud.com.

who cares about additional apps that u can just get on the appstore. i hope they tweak the actual OS a little, its so dated