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Old May 30, 2012, 09:37 AM   #51
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they (Apple) are probably mixing things up, leaking now abandoned designs so confuse everyone
This would have to be the most incredibly detailed fake that ever came out of Apple.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:39 AM   #52
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same width and only 7mm taller? not bad.
it is bad the damn 4/4s is too tall and narrow already

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Wider and larger iPhone Tim, not taller
exactly..i think they will make it look slightly odd to differentiate it from all the other properly shaped phones out now..
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:42 AM   #53
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Figures ... Tim says "doubling down on secrecy" one day then the next, 'poof' iPhone 5 schematics appear on the net. Interesting if nothing else.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:42 AM   #54
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For a game developer as myself this really scares me. IPhone has made it easy for us to build for one screen and scale down but now to include a whole new aspect ratio along with most likely different res, doesn't sit well with me. That simple ease is the creating graphics and GUI layouts is why many developers avoid Android.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:43 AM   #55
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:48 AM   #56
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How about this?:

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Dude seriously, you couldn't have made those pictures any smaller? I down ranked you on that principle alone.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:48 AM   #57
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Only question, really, remaining for me is June/July or September/October?
frame for iPhone 4S leaked 9 months before launch.

iOS6 public release=fall=6th iPhone
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:48 AM   #58
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^^^ Close, but no cigar

Dock connector is too large...


Nice PS work :cough: But, as said they are a bit oversize lol

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Old May 30, 2012, 09:50 AM   #59
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I believe Apple are leaking this on purpose to throw off the public & competition.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:50 AM   #60
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I really hope this isn't real.

Since 2007 we've seen five iterations of the iPhone. That's a new iPhone every year. In those annual offerings, three redesigns. I don't just mean upgrades, but radical redesigns that somehow encapsulates the iconic look of iPhone, but still look completely different from the previous form. On average that's a new direction in aesthetics every 1.6 years.

A schematic of the sixth generation iPhone, and it's showing the same design since 2010 with a slightly larger screen? If that's the case, Mr. Ive is losing his touch.
apple can only be the greatest for soo long then they will falter its normal.. the 4S is what the 4 should have been in the first place.. so its like they had more time to make the 5 extra special... most people were not excited about the lack of a redesign on the 4S but its performance is great so we said okay but this time apple needs a new homerun..
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:51 AM   #61
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The 16:9 screen still feels weird. I don't see how a 4" screen which only grew in height would bring a significant improvement in user experience. Of course it is nice to have some extra space for web browsing, but even though most 4.x" Android phones are a bit too large for my taste, they make actual use of the screen size, while Apple seems to maintain the 4x5 (or now 5x5) icon design. With all GUI elements being the same size since the original iPhone there is a need to change screen width also, otherwise it still feels like a 3.5" screen with all these icons squeezed in.

To me it looks like Apple simply chose the cheapest way to hop over the 4" barrier that was set up by the media to distinguish those fancy large Android phones and the "feeling a bit outdated" iPhone. However, I doubt it is enough to reveal an iPhone that is 4" (or 3,999" as someone calculated) on paper, while it basically looks like an iPhone 4(S) with a weird form factor. Apple should do better than that.

In retrospective the combination of 3.5" and the "Retina" marketing was a bad idea, because it does not leave Apple with many options to choose a screen size that truly improves user experience, while avoiding fragmentation or a complete marketing disaster (with the meaning of "Retina" being completely arbitrary). They should have made a "cut" with the iPhone 4 and redesigned iOS back then to make it suitable for 4-4.5" screens instead of deluding customers with "Retina" on an outdated screen size (and actual GUI resolution). No matter what Apple does now, it either makes the new iPhone look forced and awkward or means more fragmentation to come.

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Old May 30, 2012, 09:53 AM   #62
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^^^ Close, but no cigar

Dock connector is too large...

Nice PS work though :cough: But, as said they are a bit oversize lol
i would like iphone5 to look like those epics.. but i hope ios6 does something new with the damn boring icon layout
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:53 AM   #63
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It is rather odd that all of these leaks in quick succession are dovetailing so cleanly.

In previous years, there have been a wide range of leaks, only a few of which ended up being relevant to the actual shipping product. Many of the others were just prototype parts (or fakes).

The inherent nature of product rumors is for most of the rumors to be false, probably between 95-98% for Apple rumors.

In any case, there would have to be schematics for prototype parts. Apple tests dozens of prototype designs for each product cycle and each one would require a full set of schematics even if the component provider would only be making a hundred or so actual parts from that design. Heck, this schematic could easily be for a rejected prototype of a 4" iPhone 4S.

It is likely that Apple has in their labs a number of iPhone prototypes in all manner of screen types and sizes. Only one design will go to manufacturing and get put in a pretty box with Apple's logo. The rest of them will get studied for a while and most will be scrapped confidentially.

In any case, I am very suspicious. The real world is way too messy to have a succession of rumors that fit almost perfectly. It may very well be a leak directed by Apple to confuse the media and the competition.
I logged in to say similar. Have we all forgotten the case schematic from last year? That resulted in hundreds of thousands of cases for a non existent phone going to landfill? Perhaps the body parts we saw yesterday are for a prototype which got leaked (potentially on purpose) and have been made by 3rd parties? The white/ivory part with the terrible iPhone logo might suggest so? Surely even on a prototype Apple would get that right?

My 2 cents of the screen size: I don't think it's a big an issue for developers as is being suggested if they just follow the same route they did with the iPad. The screen is just taller, effectively you've for the same 4/4S screen with an extra bar of screen. The apps run at their native resolution or they run stretched as chosen by the user. No need to re-release apps unless you want to use the extra real estate. It's a simple an elegant solution. It doesn't break apps but does offer extra opportunities. Just as the iPad did and give developers time to work on ways to make use of it. Unless of course Apple has plans for that space. Notification bar? Extra controls? Constant Siri button? There's plenty of options.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:53 AM   #64
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Was there ever any leak in Apple's history that shows the schematics of a non released product?

In the decade that I follow Apple/MR I never saw a leak like this.

I think it's more like a controlled leak now with all those stories coming in at a fast pace.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:54 AM   #65
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Yeah, I'd say the details are falling into place.

Only question, really, remaining for me is June/July or September/October?

I always believed the fall, but with so much news slipping by, could it be earlier?
What if it ships with iOS 5.5 and iOS 6 "Coming Soon"? Last year they unveiled an OS without a phone so now maybe it's a phone without an OS...
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:56 AM   #66
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Your concepts are, nice. However, you're missing features that already exist, like LED Flash on the back. Still, if the back was solid and the front was solid, it'd be great.
I see them still using an all glass display. Maybe a feature of the next iPhone is shatter proof glass(bullet proof glass like technique?).
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:57 AM   #67
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The 16:9 screen still feels weird. I don't see how a 4" screen which only grew in height would bring a significant improvement in user experience. Of course it is nice to have some more space for web browsing, but even though most 4.x" Android phones are a bit too large for my taste, they make actual use of the screen size, while Apple seems to maintain the 4x5 (or now 5x5) icon design.

In retrospective the combination of 3.5" and the "Retina" marketing was a bad idea, because it does not leave Apple with many options to choose a screen size that truly improves user experience, while avoiding fragmentation or a complete marketing disaster (with the meaning of "Retina" being completely arbitrary). They should have made a "cut" with the iPhone 4 and redesigned iOS back then to make it suitable for 4-4.5" screens instead of deluding customers with "Retina" on an outdated screen size (and actual GUI resolution). No matter what Apple does now, it either makes the new iPhone look forced and awkward or means more fragmentation to come.
very true.. apple got lazy between the 4 and 4S.. but now they have to do something super big.. like LTE 12 mP camera super retina screen 400pixesl per inch.. audiophile DACs for sound .. thunderbolt drivers!!! 48 hour battery life
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:57 AM   #68
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What if it ships with iOS 5.5 and iOS 6 "Coming Soon"? Last year they unveiled an OS without a phone so now maybe it's a phone without an OS...
Doubtful, the release iOS first to ensure delevopment, and software fixes before general public gets it. That way it doesn't work extremely bad when launched.
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Old May 30, 2012, 09:57 AM   #69
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I really hope this isn't real.

Since 2007 we've seen five iterations of the iPhone. That's a new iPhone every year. In those annual offerings, three redesigns. I don't just mean upgrades, but radical redesigns that somehow encapsulates the iconic look of iPhone, but still look completely different from the previous form. On average that's a new direction in aesthetics every 1.6 years.

A schematic of the sixth generation iPhone, and it's showing the same design since 2010 with a slightly larger screen? If that's the case, Mr. Ive is losing his touch.
You must have a short memory. People always criticize Jony every time a major product line is redesigned. People hated the iPhone 4. People hated the unibody MacBook Pros.

And now people love them. If anything, Jony knows what will look awesome in 6 months, not now. You could even argue that he's one of the most influential people in directing what's technologically fashionable.

Mr Ive hasn't lost a thing.
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Old May 30, 2012, 10:00 AM   #70
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Disappointing if true.... After 5 generations of iPhones I may not bother with this one
So you bothered with the minor cosmetic upgrade (some say downgrade) and addition of a 3G chip from the iPhone to iPhone 3G, then the minor spec bump of the 3GS, and the minor internal upgrade from the 4 to the 4S, but you're going to skip this one? Somehow I think you'll be first in line.
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Old May 30, 2012, 10:01 AM   #71
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You must have a short memory. People always criticize Jony every time a major product line is redesigned. People hated the iPhone 4. People hated the unibody MacBook Pros.

And now people love them. If anything, Jony knows what will look awesome in 6 months, not now. You could even argue that he's one of the most influential people in directing what's technologically fashionable.

Mr Ive hasn't lost a thing.
He lost when he failed to give he 4S a redesign over the 4.. what was he doing fro that whole year?
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He lost when he failed to give he 4S a redesign over the 4.. what was he doing fro that whole year?
Creating the fastest selling phone of all time? Creating the largest operating quarterly profits in history? Working across all of their product lines?

You're right. Probably just on holiday.
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Old May 30, 2012, 10:04 AM   #73
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You'll notice that all these "real and legit" photos that are surfacing have huge watermarks through them with a website URL on them. That is an excellent way to advertise for a site, me thinks.

Let's try it.

Here is a legit photo of a piece of metal that is going to be used in the next iPhone. It was sent to us by a confidential source close to Apple:



On a more serious note, did anyone pick up what Tim Cook said yesterday at D10? "On iPhone, developers can design their app to target only one screen size".
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iPhone 5, iPhone HD, the new iPhone ... or what ???
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