Eh, mine still works like a charm and its a 2010 model. Amazingly fast, just like day 1.
It is unfortunate for those waiting to buy but the new price drops will be helpful to some.
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David Pogue: New iMacs and Mac Pros Coming 'Probably in 2013' [Update]
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Eh, mine still works like a charm and its a 2010 model. Amazingly fast, just like day 1.
It is unfortunate for those waiting to buy but the new price drops will be helpful to some.
That is interesting... Checked it out after you're post. However it lists a lot of seemingly old parts besides the 6GB RAM which seemed pretty weird.
I'm guessing they haven't updated that page in a while and that they made an error typing the processor and RAM moreso than thats the specs of the new iMac as that would really underwhelm most purchasers and than what is the point of not releasing it today?
You know it is perfectly acceptable to talk about things other than war, famine and strife. This is a technology forum, not the Unicef forums.
What ? It look like the new CPU are 20% fater than the old CPU if that is what they are using.
If the iMac is on a 5 year update cycle than 5 years from November of 2009 is November of 2014 or there a bouts. It's likely that there will be incremental updates before then.
If it takes that long the iMac update should be amazing. Retina display, SSD + HDD standard, larger display, thinner body, more power, more ram, more microphones, there are so many possibilities.
If it takes that long the iMac update should be amazing. Retina display, SSD + HDD standard, larger display, thinner body, more power, more ram, more microphones, there are so many possibilities.
Unfortunately, there isn't going to be standard PCIe thunderbolt cards. It's not a technical limitation. You can route a Thunderbolt controller through PCIe, but Intel is pushing it as a motherboard component. You're only going to see manufacturers building it into the motherboard. Asus is making an 'upgrade' PCIe thunderbolt card for a few select motherboards. Though it also requires wiring it into the onboard video. Not an elegant 'Apple-like' solution.
As an aside, I was planning on upgrading from my '08 MP if we saw a new thunderbolt model with upgraded CPU and GPU's. Now, I'll just invest in a modest GPU upgrade for my MP and wait Apple out. With this update, I don't think whatever comes out next will be a strait MP replacement. We'll see.
ASUS has Thunderbolt Add-in cards for select Intel 7 Series boards and it appears they are going to extend support to AM3+ as well.
Those high school kids buying near-$3000 laptops with up to 16GB of RAM and Thunderbolt peripherals are everywhere nowadays--so annoying.
Some sanity and perspective! How refreshing.
Mac Pro 2013
Ivy Processor (Quad-core)
Super Slim
6 GB RAM (Not user upgradable)
2 256GB SSD Standard, with 4 slots available (Can be upgraded to 768GB per slot, but not user upgradable)
4 Thunderbolt Ports
3 USB 3 Ports
Bluetooth 4
No Firewire (Adaptor available for $50)
No Ethernet (Adaptor available for $50)
OSX 10.9 Jungle Cat
Requires Retina Monitor (OSX 10.9 and up)
....will probably be awesome
Ivy Processor (Quad-core)
Super Slim
6 GB RAM (Not user upgradable)
2 256GB SSD Standard, with 4 slots available (Can be upgraded to 768GB per slot, but not user upgradable)
4 Thunderbolt Ports
3 USB 3 Ports
Bluetooth 4
No Firewire (Adaptor available for $50)
No Ethernet (Adaptor available for $50)
OSX 10.9 Jungle Cat
Requires Retina Monitor (OSX 10.9 and up)
....will probably be awesome
Those high school kids buying near-$3000 laptops with up to 16GB of RAM and Thunderbolt peripherals are everywhere nowadays--so annoying.
You might be surprised how accurate your sarcasm may be
Apple is just trying to get the entire pro community on the same update cycle. That way, they know the entire base will upgrade with each update. Nothing like a little cynicism in the evening.
To be honest though, I wouldn't mind seeing apple combine the iMac and the Mac pro into a single desktop line. With thunderbolt, the reasoning of combining the display and computer doesn't really exist anymore.
GL
To be honest though, I wouldn't mind seeing apple combine the iMac and the Mac pro into a single desktop line. With thunderbolt, the reasoning of combining the display and computer doesn't really exist anymore.
GL
What bothers me is if we have to wait until 2013 for a big redesign, then many of the components will most likely not be backwards compatible. That means that I will never get to update the POS graphics card that I currently have (Well its outdated thats for sure). Honestly, would it be so hard to just update the Graphics cards and allow some USB 3 cards to be installed?
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Really it is quite sad, Apple should not even put a new badge on the mac pro with old hardware. But as others have said they are probably waiting for ivy xeons so they could do USB 3.0. It would look bad (as it already does) to have a laptop with better hardware than desktop, so they did not bother put much R&D into the update.
I think they should continue to drop the prices to make up for it.
On the other hand a high end Mac Pro is still about 2x as fast as a even new MBP. And you can put a GPU in there that would still clobber the even new MBP. like a GTX 580.
High end Geekbench Scores are still over 20k and that is plenty fast to keep up with any desktop i7. But they are a bit expensive I would say given their aged technology.
If they wiat till ivy bridge for a substantial update, it will not be a mistake.
Mostly Intel is holding up the show. But Apple should be embarrased to suggest their Mac Pros are new.
But some1 suggested Mac Pros be made slimmer...
I think the whole point of Mac Pros is the Tower build.
Apple needs a Tower. Towers allow expandability, slimming it down would defeat the purpose.
Meanwhile yall should just build a Hackintosh.
I think they should continue to drop the prices to make up for it.
On the other hand a high end Mac Pro is still about 2x as fast as a even new MBP. And you can put a GPU in there that would still clobber the even new MBP. like a GTX 580.
High end Geekbench Scores are still over 20k and that is plenty fast to keep up with any desktop i7. But they are a bit expensive I would say given their aged technology.
If they wiat till ivy bridge for a substantial update, it will not be a mistake.
Mostly Intel is holding up the show. But Apple should be embarrased to suggest their Mac Pros are new.
But some1 suggested Mac Pros be made slimmer...
I think the whole point of Mac Pros is the Tower build.
Apple needs a Tower. Towers allow expandability, slimming it down would defeat the purpose.
Meanwhile yall should just build a Hackintosh.
If Pogue is accurate then these had better be laser-like utensils as opposed to the sporks that were dropped on us today. No excuse for Tim Cook/Apple not giving us whatever they are planning TODAY.
The iMac used to be the crown jewel of Apple's empire and now, after 405 days since the last refresh, we can't even get a full-sized keyboard as a minor update.
I hope so, otherwise Apple may lose people to even more Hackintoshes for powerful/pro machines.
I'm also in hopes that Apple will make their 27" thunderbolt display a retina display soon, although I could see where that would be mighty expensive.
I'm also in hopes that Apple will make their 27" thunderbolt display a retina display soon, although I could see where that would be mighty expensive.
Well the people that are going to need it, will buy it.
The new MacBook Pro with the Ivy Bridge is going to be nearly as fast as a Mac Pro, and Thunderbolt ports cover pretty much every common IO standard.
There are very few specific features that the mac pros have that macbook pro's don't have, such as video interfaces, but i suspect that even those are going to move to a Thunderbolt adapter eventually. Even RAID is done through thunderbolt now, so you won't need a Mac Pro for that.
Really, very few people actually need Mac Pros.
The new MacBook Pro with the Ivy Bridge is going to be nearly as fast as a Mac Pro, and Thunderbolt ports cover pretty much every common IO standard.
There are very few specific features that the mac pros have that macbook pro's don't have, such as video interfaces, but i suspect that even those are going to move to a Thunderbolt adapter eventually. Even RAID is done through thunderbolt now, so you won't need a Mac Pro for that.
Really, very few people actually need Mac Pros.
They updated the RAM that was big update. The CPU was update a bit but not that much just slight update.
The video card and hard-drive stay the same.
Actually, that is one thing I'm keeping my eye on. Now with OSX natively supporting USB 3.0 with the new Macbook models, I think it's just a matter of time till we see more Mac compatible USB 3.0 cards. If this happens, I see throwing one in my MP to get a little more life out of it.
I think Apple are going to see the reaction to the new Retina MB Pro's BEFORE updating the rest of the range, why else has it launched only one machine with the screen, it could have easily implemented it into the 13" Pro and the Air's.
So I think next year, we will see totally redesigned iMacs with retina and flash storage and a totally redesigned Mac Pro with some tasty options and retina cinema display's. And imagine a Mac Pro with SSD's as standard?
Although I do feel sorry for the current Pro owners, it would have been good for Apple to launch options to 16 core machines? But maybe the new one is such a new design that's why they have done such a soft update?
So I think next year, we will see totally redesigned iMacs with retina and flash storage and a totally redesigned Mac Pro with some tasty options and retina cinema display's. And imagine a Mac Pro with SSD's as standard?
Although I do feel sorry for the current Pro owners, it would have been good for Apple to launch options to 16 core machines? But maybe the new one is such a new design that's why they have done such a soft update?