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Dr. Ed Catmull and Larry Ellison Remember Steve Jobs

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Steve Jobs was a frequent guest at All Things D's annual D Conference, appearing six times with D hosts Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg. After he passed away last year, Swisher and Mossberg felt it was important to have a session honoring Jobs and his legacy.

They asked Dr. Ed Catmull, who worked with Jobs for years at Pixar, as well as Larry Ellison, the legendary CEO of Oracle who was one of Jobs' closest friends, to appear and reflect on Jobs' life.

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Dr. Catmull also did a separate one-on-one interview with Kara Swisher. He discussed the history of Pixar, computer animation, and shared some fascinating stories about his experiences working with Jobs at both Pixar and Disney.

Image courtesy Asa Mathat/All Things D

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Shacklebolt

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It got awkward when Ellison asked to be addressed as "Sir Lawrence Ellison, Lord of Hawaii."
 
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ProVideo

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Did no one in the audience have even one question they could think of for either Ed Catmull or Larry Ellison at the end? Shame on them if so.
 
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rotax

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The insight on the brick and mortar seems off to me. What Steve knew was that Apple had great products that people had to get their hands on to touch and see how beautiful they were and how they worked. As an Apple fan for a long time I can tell you that time and time again I heard sales people at Best Buy and other retail stores bash Apple over and over. "There is no software etc" Yes Steve wanted to build an iconic store that rose to the level of design of the products, but he also wanted to be able to represent the products directly without untrained and biased sales people maligning the brand. Combine that with top notch technical assistance, training, and service and he had success.
 
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Bevz

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ProVideo said:
Did no one in the audience have even one question they could think of for either Ed Catmull or Larry Ellison at the end? Shame on them if so.
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Yeah i thought that a bit odd... They didnt seem to give people much time tho, it almost looked like someone waved at walt to wrap it up a bit quick... I hope that was the case otherwise the audience were a bunch of brain dead morons who quite frankly woudnt have deserved to be there otherwise lol
 
Piggie

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Well...highly respected...:D
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Well, I would not quite go that far.
Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world and only preached to the top layers of the community.

Seeing him speak to high students about how they must individually strive to be the best, as he thought everyone should, be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

Really Steve well, that's all dandy.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?

Oh, you mean those people that you don't think exist in the world?

If everyone followed Steve's advice the whole world would grind to a halt.
If it was not for the people he was not interested in, then there would be no Apple.
 
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Piggie said:
Well, I would not quite go that far.
Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world and only preached to the top layers of the community.

Seeing him speak to high students about how they must individually strive to be the best, as he thought everyone should, be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

Really Steve well, that's all dandy.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?

Oh, you mean those people that you don't think exist in the world?

If everyone followed Steve's advice the whole world would grind to a halt.
If it was not for the people he was not interested in, then there would be no Apple.
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All of what you say notwithstanding, I would still assert that Jobs was very well respected within the electronics community. That he was, arguably, not the most pleasant person in the world, does not diminish his contributions in the arena of personal computing.

He may have been an elitist, as you suggest, or less than laudable in other ways...he did make a significant contribution to the electronics industry, and, IMO, is well respected for those contributions.
 
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mBox

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Ed is a god in my line of work.
The other guy is a pain for most IT line of work :)
 
bketchum

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Piggie said:
...Steve had a very narrow minded elitist view of the world...

...everyone should be inventing things, starting companies and doing all they can to be high fliers.

So tell me Steven who is going to empty your trash can, maintain the sewage plant so your toilet takes your waste away, clean the streets for you, and even assemble the products nice and cheap for you?
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Robots. iRobots. Really cool, beautiful Apple iRobots. Steve was livid with Google not for stealing the iOS idea, but because they called it Android. Steve coveted that name for his future robots. Apple android. He wanted a lowercase "a" and liked the alliteration.
 
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colour

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Insightful.

Good to see what others very close to him have to say, after following apple over the years. I have developed my own opinion on him, which was more negative than positive but from this insight, Steve Jobs as a person would have been amazing to learn from and work with.

They have emphasized how much heart and soul he put into apple, and I guess his personality got in the way of things. He did great things and the money / success did follow, in saying this can anyone comment on say how many decisions were made with "money making" as a high priority within the company, especially over the last 3 years?
 
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"Legendary" CEO?

Larry Ellison has fallen into the realm of legend now? I can just picture him standing next to King Arthur and Beowulf.
 
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