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Apple Launches 'OS X Server' for Mountain Lion for $19.99
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1822?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
"Note: Server app from OS X Lion and the Server Admin Tools 10.7 are not compatible with Mountain Lion."
Must admit, i'm surprised they've done that. I wonder if its purely to support older 10.6 and older clients that need Managed Preferences. I'm guessing Profile Manager doesn't work with 10.6 and earlier.
Seeing as OS X Lion Server cost $49.99 on top of the $29.99 Lion upgrade (total $79.98 to upgrade from Snow Leopard Server,) and Snow Leopard Server cost $499, whether an upgrade from Leopard Server or a fresh server install from the 'client' version, the total cost of $39.98 for Mountain Lion Server is a steal.
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Your server will be down during the upgrade process, but upgrading the main OS, then installing the Server component is fairly quick. Once the upgrade process (including installing the server component) is done, you will be back up and running.
Hint, as with any server: Don't do major maintenance during production hours.
I know, but my windows server crashed and i was so fed up with it that i threw it out. yet i still needed a replacement, quickly!
and two weeks without it wasn't an option.
anyway, i'll just check if it's worth updating to the mountain lion server and if it is i'll pay the damn 20$
it has always been that way! It's just: Leopard Server cost you 999$, Snow Leopard Server set you back 499$, Lion Server 50$ and now Mountain Lion Server 40$. What are you complaining about?
From what I understand my 2008 8-core 3 Ghz Xserve with 10GB of memory is inadequate to run Mountain Lion, and therefore can't run Mountain Lion Server. I would say this xserve has more computing power than 99% of all macs. Is this really all because it does not have the right graphics card? Now I can't upgrade Lion server to mountain lion to fix the crap thats broken like File Permissions, Address Book and Network Spotlight etc.. Crazy! Let me know if anyone gets Mountain Lion on an Early 2008 Xserve working.
so... ML Server roundup:
No more Server Admin, NAT, DHCP(!), Firewall, XGrid
No more Server Tools, therefore Workgroup Manager, so you have to rely on Profile Manager to manage your ML clients... let's hope the damn thing works (i.e it's not Lion)
Server Image Utility (SIU) seems unable to make the "combined"installer for a server as per the previous way (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4746)
Everything is now in Server.app... Welcome to The Fisher-Price guide to servers... except there's no DHCP so "small businesses" et al will have to rely on their router for that...
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I'm in the same boat... no ML server for me because our Xserve's don't have GFX cards... never mind the fact that half the crap on Lion doesn't work and we were waiting for the upgrade... it's throw the Xserve in the bin.
To add insult to injury, Apple include "XSan 3" as a main feature of ML server, which is just some marketing prick writing down things on a website... a joke
No more Server Admin, NAT, DHCP(!), Firewall, XGrid
No more Server Tools, therefore Workgroup Manager, so you have to rely on Profile Manager to manage your ML clients... let's hope the damn thing works (i.e it's not Lion)
Server Image Utility (SIU) seems unable to make the "combined"installer for a server as per the previous way (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4746)
Everything is now in Server.app... Welcome to The Fisher-Price guide to servers... except there's no DHCP so "small businesses" et al will have to rely on their router for that...
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I'm in the same boat... no ML server for me because our Xserve's don't have GFX cards... never mind the fact that half the crap on Lion doesn't work and we were waiting for the upgrade... it's throw the Xserve in the bin.
To add insult to injury, Apple include "XSan 3" as a main feature of ML server, which is just some marketing prick writing down things on a website... a joke
I'm new to this site so I dont know if I've posted this in the right topic but I need some MAJOR help.
Remember the old Notes for os x lion ? I had some important lists saved and now that I've switched to os x mountain lion and the Notes application is more similar to the iphone version, my stuff is no where to be found
Does anyone know if I can somehow locate my previous notes ? Or am I screwed ?
Remember the old Notes for os x lion ? I had some important lists saved and now that I've switched to os x mountain lion and the Notes application is more similar to the iphone version, my stuff is no where to be found
Does anyone know if I can somehow locate my previous notes ? Or am I screwed ?
FWIW, there is an updated Workgroup Manager available, but no Server Admin. It's looking like time to investigate other options for servers.
I'm new to this site so I dont know if I've posted this in the right topic but I need some MAJOR help.
Remember the old Notes for os x lion ? I had some important lists saved and now that I've switched to os x mountain lion and the Notes application is more similar to the iphone version, my stuff is no where to be found
Does anyone know if I can somehow locate my previous notes ? Or am I screwed ?
The only old Notes for Lion I know of is the Notes in Mac Mail. Is this what you are referring to? My notes in Lion Mail got moved to the new ML Notes app when I upgraded.
Ah my mistake. I solved the problem. I forgot that they were called Stickies.. I dont know why I was thinking Notes. I found them
I keep seeing people say this everywhere-- you'd think people trying to manage a server would be cautious enough to read the knowledge base:
DHCP and NAT are handled via System Preferences. ipfw is deprecated but still retains your Lion rules and can be managed by command line or 3rd party front end.
No kidding! We're basically stuck at 10.6 with no future to stay on Apple for server. I guess it's time to start looking at alternatives and brushing up on the Unix skills.
You mean compare it to the price of REAL server operating systems that were designed for data center use? Sorry, but that's not even funny.
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Either keep this box on Snow Leopard until it needs to be replaced or face the reality and install a different server OS on it - there are plenty of them out there.
Not even Apple use OS X on their servers, and neither have they ever used their own Xserve product line in their data centers. Why should you?
An extra $20 for an OS update is not going to break the bank? Remember when these things cost $120 a pop? I do.
I have two Mac (2009 MBP and 2011 MacMini Server) that link to the same apple ID account. Do I need to paid $40 for the server and mountain lion for the MacMini server and another $20 for mountain lion on MBP? Or the $20 upgrade of mountain lion will work on both the MacMini and MBP in one shot and just need to pay the additional $20 for the server function on the MacMini?
Thanks
Thanks
A single purchase is good for all the Macs you control, so total cost will be $40.
Lol, no DHCP server? Really? What is even the point to this, then? I guess for the price if it makes setting web servers and stuff up easier for folks, then it is priced about right.
For the nerdy nerds out there (like me!), a router running DD-WRT seems to offer much more "server" functionality and if I want a web server I'll install Apache for free. With DD-WRT I was able to
* Setup DHCP, and IP reservations for particular MAC addresses.
* Force the kid's devices to go through OpenDNS and it is nearly bullet proof. Sorry, kiddos no porn for you.
* Easily access my home network via VPN. I love this for when I'm on public WiFi and want to ensure that my iPhone has an encrypted connection.
For the nerdy nerds out there (like me!), a router running DD-WRT seems to offer much more "server" functionality and if I want a web server I'll install Apache for free. With DD-WRT I was able to
* Setup DHCP, and IP reservations for particular MAC addresses.
* Force the kid's devices to go through OpenDNS and it is nearly bullet proof. Sorry, kiddos no porn for you.
* Easily access my home network via VPN. I love this for when I'm on public WiFi and want to ensure that my iPhone has an encrypted connection.
Ahh, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
Let me also just say, that I can see "a point" to this if you want to manage multiple user accounts across multiple Macs. But for just home server needs, between router features and opensource server software most people are covered and probably don't need something like this (except to just toy around with, and for $20 it is probably worth it for even that).