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Boot Camp Files Hint at New Mac Pro and iMac Models [Updated]
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The iMac actually uses a desktop CPU. The only thing that would be holding back a Retina iMac would be the GPU as it uses a notebook one.
Yep. For the sake of knowledge though, I'll have to say that the iMacs did use laptop CPUs for many years; only a few years ago did they start using desktop CPUs.
It needs a desktop GPU badly that would make it so much better and yes, it would help a Retina iMac greatly. In the meantime, where are those Thunderbolt eGPUs .
Still good to go
My 2008 MacPro is still working fine. (knock on wood) Although, the Nvidia card went south last year. I baked the card in the oven for 10 minutes @ 400 degrees F, and it's been working fine since then. So I can wait till next year. Glad to know it's coming though.
My 2008 MacPro is still working fine. (knock on wood) Although, the Nvidia card went south last year. I baked the card in the oven for 10 minutes @ 400 degrees F, and it's been working fine since then. So I can wait till next year. Glad to know it's coming though.
Yep. For the sake of knowledge though, I'll have to say that the iMacs did use laptop CPUs for many years; only a few years ago did they start using desktop CPUs.
It needs a desktop GPU badly that would make it so much better and yes, it would help a Retina iMac greatly. In the meantime, where are those Thunderbolt eGPUs .
My only worry with a desktop GPU would be heat.
I think it's pretty safe to say that those who purchase a Mac Pro either have no need for an optical drive or are capable of adding one themselves. I have a Blu-ray drive for one reason - to rip them.
While true you have the option of getting the high end graphic card option which is not available on the MacBook Pro, namely the Radeon HD 6970M.
Yep. For the sake of knowledge though, I'll have to say that the iMacs did use laptop CPUs for many years; only a few years ago did they start using desktop CPUs.
It needs a desktop GPU badly that would make it so much better and yes, it would help a Retina iMac greatly. In the meantime, where are those Thunderbolt eGPUs .
Well they are trying to stay under 100W TDP. That's the thermal envelope they can work with in this All-In-One enclosure. Ivy-Bridge comes in 77W flavors, which is pretty easy to fit inside. A high end discrete graphic card uses more then 200W. Way to much, hence they can only go with mobile chips.
OT: I really can't wait either. This will be my first iMac purchase and I really can't stand the wait. Seems like I picked the wrong year for waiting on a refresh
There will be a update Timm Cook sent out a email saying there will be on the Mac Pro in 2013
First of all, the 'update' on the article just took the wind out of me. The thought of a 30" iMac would be great. I'm chugging away on my 2,1 Mac Pro Octo 2.66 with a 30" ACD and 3 23" ACDs. Crazy to think that as old as this machine is, however with upgrades CPUs, that it compares very favorably to a new Mac Pro, and that I have a crazy beautiful displays, one of which is over 10% bigger than anything Apple still makes. Crazy world we live in...it just usually doesn't work out like that.
It would be somewhat annoying, and having to plug in yet another item isn't a valid solution.
Couldn't justify it? They justified that amount for prior generations with the G5 and later the mac pro. Much of the time it comes down to what you get. Apple doesn't make displays that are really great for that kind of stuff. They're too far off from reference specs much of the time whether your target is to match print densities as close as possible or you're using a specialized target for print or video workflows. Basic colorimeter software has gained a lot more in the way of tracking abilities. It used to be that only proprietary display calibration software had much in the way of capabilities when it came to tracking display behavior. Anyway "retina" isn't the sole target here. Apple looks for things that will appeal to a very wide market, which is why it works for them. Color management is a bit more of an after thought, in that it simply needs to hit a minimum threshold. You should note that the imac doesn't use notebook cpus at all. They use cpu options that go to the upper end of desktop cpus without getting into the extreme edition ones that use an LGA2011 socket type. Those are used in their Xeon form (which costs the same as the equivalent i7 variant) in the single package mac pro options. The imac gpus go up to ones found only in 17" gaming class notebooks, so they're weaker, yet they aren't terrible. It's just that the 6970m has to push a lot of pixels around. Right now they're due for an update, so that could also make the thing look slower.
It will happen. Apple did say something about Mac Pros on the horizon. I can't remember exactly what was said but I do remember the impression I got from it was mid to late 2013. The best bet here is looking at intel's Xeon roadmap and adding on a few months for Apple to get them to market.
And retina iMacs? I think 2013 at the earliest, probably more like 2014. And retina on an iMac will be less ppi then on a Macbook Pro. But I'm sure it'll look amazing when it's released.
Does your memory retain the fact that Apple removed "new" from the Mac Pro entry on their site within a short time?
They knew it wasn't new.
Except there wasn't. They threw some different 2-year-old components in, gave us the finger, and called it a day.
You right you right, but then againnnn. The 21.5" iMac starts at $1199. The 15" MacBook Pro (non-Retina) starts at $1799.
Laptops are usually more than desktops. So technicallyyyy a Retina iMac (21.5") could start at like $1799. 6.5" bigger than 15" isn't TOO drastic.
Or they could keep a non-Retina 21.5" and 27" while introducing a next-generation 21.5" (no optical drive, flash storage, 8GB memory standard, thinner, more ports etc.) So there are possibilities.
After the last Mac Pro 'update', I'm convinced that Apple is just trolling us now.
Apple employee 1: "Hey Mike, let's drop a new Mac Pro product code in the OS X code for laughs."
Apple employee 2: "Dude, haha yes. I'm going to call my friend Sarah in hardware and have her etch a coded message on the next iPad logic board."
Apple employee 1: "LOL!! Yeah, put 'iPro' somewhere in it. The pro guys will be shooting blood out of their ears."
Apple employee 1: "Hey Mike, let's drop a new Mac Pro product code in the OS X code for laughs."
Apple employee 2: "Dude, haha yes. I'm going to call my friend Sarah in hardware and have her etch a coded message on the next iPad logic board."
Apple employee 1: "LOL!! Yeah, put 'iPro' somewhere in it. The pro guys will be shooting blood out of their ears."
I'm not plugged into any back room info on Pros anymore, so I am curious about speculation of what it might include. Let me list a wish list:
802.11ac
dedicated SSD slots
dedicated GPU system
typical HD spots
Overkill on the ram slots
A clear way to daisy chain MacPros
Stackable/Rackable including a special DC power port.
Integrated hubs for USB, Ethernet, Thunderbolt
Now discuss.
Rocketman
802.11ac
dedicated SSD slots
dedicated GPU system
typical HD spots
Overkill on the ram slots
A clear way to daisy chain MacPros
Stackable/Rackable including a special DC power port.
Integrated hubs for USB, Ethernet, Thunderbolt
Now discuss.
Rocketman
I wonder if they will come out with different monitor sizes for the iMac ... would be nice to see like a 28" and 23-24" model ....
My first response was.. you did what? Then I did a quick google. That's just awesome.
Just make sure you strip the card down to the bare board before baking and bake solder side up.
Just make sure you strip the card down to the bare board before baking and bake solder side up.
Hah hah, I think at that point I would have far exceeded my competence in both technology matters and domestic ones; I can barely cook an egg.
So I'll leave this awesomeness to you, good sir. Hopefully we'll see an updated Mac Pro before you have to cook any more of your computer.