Oracle Officially Launches Java SE 7 for OS X

MacRumors · Aug 14, 2012, 02:39 PM

Oracle today announced the release of several new Java software packages, including the new Java SE 7 Update 6 that brings full support for Java SE 7 to OS X for the first time. The release follows launch of Java development kits for OS X back in April.

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- With this release, Oracle is providing full availability of Java SE 7 Update 6 on Mac OS X, including the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) and the Java Development Kit (JDK), as well as the JavaFX 2.2 rich client platform and JavaFX Scene Builder.

- Consumers will soon be able to download the JRE for Mac OS X from Java.com, just as they do for all other operating systems, and Oracle will provide auto-updates for Mac OS X at the same time as for Windows platforms.

Apple announced in October 2010 that it was discontinuing its support for Java, with Steve Jobs noting that having Apple responsible for updates generally resulted in Java for OS X being one version behind Java for other platforms. Jobs noted that that "may not be the best way to do it", and his belief was proven true earlier this year after the Flashback malware was able to infect 600,000 Macs by taking advantage of a Java vulnerability that had already been patched in most versions of Java but not yet addressed by Apple.

Apple has continued to maintain Java SE 6 while contributing resources to the OpenJDK project to help Oracle and other developers build and maintain Java SE 7 and future versions. Notably, Apple's latest update to Java SE 6 came in sync with Oracle's updates for other platforms, indicating that Apple is working closely with Oracle to make sure Mac users are protected with up-to-date versions of Java on their systems.

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BRLawyer · Aug 14, 2012, 02:41 PM

Virtually useless for any ordinary end-user, but welcome news anyway.

mathcolo · Aug 14, 2012, 02:42 PM

Does this version support the Swing API? I remember from a long time ago there being something about how version 7 didn't yet support Swing, but if this is an official release...

cocky jeremy · Aug 14, 2012, 02:43 PM

Java.com tells me to download from Apple.. so WTF?

wrldwzrd89 · Aug 14, 2012, 02:44 PM

Yay! I've been anxiously awaiting this day. Sure, Java SE may not be as useful as it once was, to BRLawyer's point - especially when it comes to Java applets, which are barely used anymore. For those who still use Java, or develop with it like I do, this release is welcomed as it fixes the most annoying bugs since 7u4 and 7u5.

Lucky736 · Aug 14, 2012, 02:44 PM

Is there a way to completely remove earlier Java versions once 7 gets installed or do they all just work together.

ConCat · Aug 14, 2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mathcolo

Does this version support the Swing API? I remember from a long time ago there being something about how version 7 didn't yet support Swing, but if this is an official release...

http://openjdk.java.net/ seems to be the place to go for info. It does appear to support the Swing API.

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Originally Posted by cocky jeremy

Java.com tells me to download from Apple.. so WTF?

Same here. Here's a quote that may explain it though:

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Consumers will soon be able to download the JRE for Mac OS X from Java.com, just as they do for all other operating systems, and Oracle will provide auto-updates for Mac OS X at the same time as for Windows platforms.

They keyword is "soon". Define that how you wish.

gorskiegangsta · Aug 14, 2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

Virtually useless for any ordinary end-user, but welcome news anyway.

I'm guessing you don't play minecraft

mactmaster · Aug 14, 2012, 02:46 PM

The only reason I've had for installing Java is that it's required to run some Adobe design apps.

gotluck · Aug 14, 2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

Virtually useless for any ordinary end-user, but welcome news anyway.

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John.B · Aug 14, 2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky736

Is there a way to completely remove earlier Java versions once 7 gets installed or do they all just work together.

Define "work".

BRLawyer · Aug 14, 2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gorskiegangsta

I'm guessing you don't play minecraft

Absolutely not...and don't intend to.

madsci954 · Aug 14, 2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ConCat

They keyword is "soon". Define that how you wish.

I prefer Blizzard's definition of Soon: sometime between now and the end of time

ConCat · Aug 14, 2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky736

Is there a way to completely remove earlier Java versions once 7 gets installed or do they all just work together.

I've actually had this installed for quite awhile before this announcement. I'm not sure why they're announcing it now, but whatever. A screenshot of my current Java setup is attached. They work fine together. The version provided by Oracle is 64-bit only, and isn't 100% compatible with apps designed for the old Java provided by Apple, so it doesn't overwrite it.

longofest · Aug 14, 2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ConCat

...A screenshot of my current Java setup is attached. They work fine together. The version provided by Oracle is 64-bit only, and isn't 100% compatible with apps designed for the old Java provided by Apple, so it doesn't overwrite it.

You definitely don't want to necessarily remove Java 6. Most apps are still written against Java 6 as it is much more mature than Java 7.

faroZ06 · Aug 14, 2012, 03:07 PM

Why was Apple making their own Java in the first place? The whole point of Java was "compile once for every device", yet Java 7 was not available on Mac OS. This was rarely a problem, but it was extremely annoying when it was.

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Originally Posted by gorskiegangsta

I'm guessing you don't play minecraft

Only a very few Minecraft server plugins need Java 7. Minecraft itself does not. I find it horrifying that Minecraft is made in Java, and it's terribly slow and buggy.[COLOR="#808080"]

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I'm glad that Apple stopped making Java because, well, they sucked at it. Seriously, no Java SE 6 for 32-bit processors or PPC?

LxHunter · Aug 14, 2012, 03:08 PM

I am running OSX 10.8
Pardon the dumb questions.
I downloaded and installed the JRE 7 from the above site.
When I open the >Utilities>Java Preferences.app it only shows Java SE 6 installed.

Have I done something wrong?

Westside guy · Aug 14, 2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cocky jeremy

Java.com tells me to download from Apple.. so WTF?

If you simply follow the links in this story, you'll be able to easily download the latest Java for OS X if you so choose.

Navdakilla · Aug 14, 2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

Virtually useless for any ordinary end-user, but welcome news anyway.

Yup, no idea how this will benefit me
/the ordinary user

bbeagle · Aug 14, 2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by faroZ06

Why was Apple making their own Java in the first place? The whole point of Java was "compile once for every device", yet Java 7 was not available on Mac OS. This was rarely a problem, but it was extremely annoying when it was.

The Java Virtual Machine (JVM) needs to be created for EACH AND EVERY MACHINE that Java runs on.

This is the big deal.

When a Java command like 'open message box' (JDialogBox) is run, then the Mac, or any machine Java is on needs to understand how to do this and translate the Java command to a system command (Cocoa). Previously, Apple was creating this code, now Oracle is.

faroZ06 · Aug 14, 2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bbeagle

The Java Virtual Machine (JVM) needs to be created for EACH AND EVERY MACHINE that Java runs on.

This is the big deal.

When a Java command like 'open message box' (JDialogBox) is run, then the Mac, or any machine Java is on needs to understand how to do this.

Yes, I understand. And for some reason, Java SE 7 was never created for Mac OS until now. Why?? Also, despite it being a virtual machine, the host OS actually sometimes matters.

Morod · Aug 14, 2012, 03:14 PM

This version is NOT for Snow Leopard.

Stridder44 · Aug 14, 2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BRLawyer

Absolutely not...and don't intend to.

You're missing out.

And for those of you trying to get this update from Oracle, it'll be released the same way every Java update has been released, through Software Update.

faroZ06 · Aug 14, 2012, 03:14 PM

Well, when I try to install it:

Alter the package so it installs in 10.6.x anyway?

bbeagle · Aug 14, 2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by faroZ06

Yes, I understand. And for some reason, Java SE 7 was never created for Mac OS until now. Why?

It takes time to develop code. Apple wasn't number 1 on Oracle's list for implementing the JVM, or they didn't have enough Apple OS X developers.

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