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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:31 PM   #1
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Apple and Samsung Respond to the $1 Billion Patent Verdict






NYTimes reports on the responses from Apple and Samsung about today's patent verdict which found largely in favor of Apple and resulted in an over $1 billion verdict against Samsung.

Apple's spokesperson Katie Cotton:
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We are grateful to the jury for their service and for investing the time to listen to our story and we were thrilled to be able to finally tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trail showed that Samsung's copying went far deeper than even we knew. The lawsuits between Apple and Samsung were about much more than patents or money. They were about values. At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung's behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn't right.
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Today's verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.
The jury found that Samsung owes Apple $1.05 billion in damages for willfully infringing on Apple's intellectual property.

Article Link: Apple and Samsung Respond to the $1 Billion Patent Verdict
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:33 PM   #2
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Team Samsung for the sake of consumers. I could care less who copied who. I don't want these lawsuits to go out of control!

Apple Wins - Apple's Lawyers Win, More Lawsuits, Consumers will eventually lose with less smartphone choices in the market.
Samsung Wins - Apple's Lawyers Lose, Consumers can continue to have the status quo, Apple still is wining regardless.

Everyone copies each other. There patents for some things are unwarranted. This case should have been dismissed entirely.

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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:34 PM   #3
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Yep. I agree with Samsung. Apple is being a straight bully.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:35 PM   #4
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Glad to see Samsung will really be innovating now. I'd like to see an entire package of innovation, not certain leaps made possible by the copying of other components they saw as unimportant.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:35 PM   #5
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Team Samsung for the sake of consumers. I could care less who copied who. I don't want these lawsuits to go out of control!
I love Apple

but as a self-interested consumer

I think we benefit from this stealing, copying etc.
Instead, the lawyers are the big winners.

Apple could still dominate and crush samsung without winning the court battle
Put those time, dollars, and values into defeating everyone even further

^Spoken as a selfish new iphone buyer Sept 21 (expected)
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:36 PM   #6
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"We've filed for over 200 new patents for the iPhone and we intend to protect them." -Steve Jobs, 2007

Sounds like Steve would've let this happen.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:36 PM   #7
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Although I do believe a few of Apple's patent claims were valid, the rest were just BS and completely unwarranted Seriously, a patent on a rectangle? Come on.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:36 PM   #8
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Cant wait to see what Microsoft will come up with...what? wait? their not in this fight?
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:36 PM   #9
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This further solidifies why I'll be purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Nexus as my next mobile device of choice.

Copyright law needs to be radically changed to favor the consumer, otherwise we'll be subject to a complete lack of innovation and a technological regression for all society.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:37 PM   #10
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I'm very curious to see Apple's stock tomorrow.
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Yep. I agree with Samsung. Apple is being a straight bully.
What is a straight bully?
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:39 PM   #12
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Although I do believe a few of Apple's patent claims were valid, the rest were just BS and completely unwarranted Seriously, a patent on a rectangle? Come on.
Just proves you didn't actually even read the patent claims.

This is completely expected, but I expect this decision will stand, at least in part.

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I'm very curious to see Apple's stock tomorrow.
Buy VERY early.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:39 PM   #15
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This further solidifies why I'll be purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Nexus as my next mobile device of choice.

Copyright law needs to be radically changed to favor the consumer, otherwise we'll be subject to a complete lack of innovation and a technological regression for all society.
so you are going to go for a lesser phone just to spite a company that doesn't affect your life?
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:40 PM   #16
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Learn to license perhaps? That, and come up with original concepts otherwise. Simple resolution.
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I'm all for competition, but what did Samsung innovate? Obviously they get a lot of their ideas from Apple. It's just so obvious. They're not discrete at all.
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Today's verdict… will lead to fewer choices [and] less innovation….
This doesn't make sense to me. Because companies like Samsung and Google cannot use these patents, will it not lead to more innovation, and more choices?

Will this not force these companies to find different ways of implementing the general concepts that Apple's specific patents cover?

These people say it well:
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[Samsung is] probably going "Oh no! Now we have to innovate by thinking of our OWN ideas?"
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They were accused of copying, which is by definition the complete lack of innovation.
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How could copying lead to more choices and further innovation?

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I'm very curious to see Apple's stock tomorrow.
I hear those Saturday's are huge trading days.

It was up big in after hours though, so one would expect Monday to see it up.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 09:41 PM   #20
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More Inovation

If anything this is going to create more innovation and is a win for consumers. Just goes to show Samsung doesn't know what it means to innovate. They are probably going "Oh no! Now we have to innovate by thinking of our OWN ideas??? What has the world come to??"

What put me on Apple's side was the Samsung document which outlined all the features that are "better" on iPhone and then described how they must try to implement those features into the Galaxy S.
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so you are going to go for a lesser phone just to spite a company that doesn't affect your life?
Yes. Even as I write this on my iPhone 4S. This is completely ridiculous. Besides, Jelly Bean does look pretty impressive.
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This further solidifies why I'll be purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Nexus as my next mobile device of choice.

Copyright law needs to be radically changed to favor the consumer, otherwise we'll be subject to a complete lack of innovation and a technological regression for all society.
They were accused of copying, which is by definition the complete lack of innovation.

You can still buy wicked cool smart phones, just not Samsungs copy
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How could copying lead to more choices and further innovation?
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Did Apple get their marketing team to write that statement?
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