Apple Working on Pandora-Like Music Service? [Updated] - Page 2

upthetoffees · Sep 6, 2012, 07:26 PM

All of these services discussed are incredibly poor for the musician.

The musician is faced with 'ok people are grabbing your records for free, let's make them pay 0.0000005 cents per play, it's better than nothing. That is.. if they can be bothered to sign up. Oh and it might actually not be quite 0.000005'

NorEaster · Sep 6, 2012, 07:29 PM

Flame me all you want... but where are all of the Apple fanatics who always claim that Apple innovates and everyone else copies? Sounds like Apple is thinking about copying a music delivery model that someone else pioneered.

Mykbibby · Sep 6, 2012, 07:33 PM

Apple is so behind the times on digital music. I migrated to Spotify after being a loyal iTunes user for years and haven't looked back. I'm disappointed to hear the service will be ad-supported and radio based for the sake of my love for the company... but personally, this will be a great complement to my pre-existing Spotify collection.

Rot'nApple · Sep 6, 2012, 07:38 PM

If it is ad supported and free, fine. Not gonna pay for a radio service though.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NorEaster

Flame me all you want... but where are all of the Apple fanatics who always claim that Apple innovates and everyone else copies? Sounds like Apple is thinking about copying a music delivery model that someone else pioneered.

Name one product that Apple created? Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet? Nope, none of those. Now name one product that Apple through their innovation, reinvented the wheel and made it to where the 'me too' crowd scrambled to get theirs out the door! Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet! Yep! Now, you're catching on.

Smart boy!

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gotluck · Sep 6, 2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iBreatheApple

Interesting... I'd be willing to give it a try. I'm really liking Songza lately, I can't believe it's been out for as long as it has but is just now gaining recognition.

wow, i had never heard of songza

nice!!

taxiapple · Sep 6, 2012, 07:43 PM

Didn't Apple buy a music streaming company a couple years ago?
Then they shut it down and as far I know didn't do anything with it.

rickdollar · Sep 6, 2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by taxiapple

Didn't Apple buy a music streaming company a couple years ago?
Then they shut it down and as far I know didn't do anything with it.

Yes, LaLa. I was expecting great things from that, too. What the hell happened??

filmantopia · Sep 6, 2012, 07:50 PM

Don't know... This sort of sounds like a Ping-y idea to me.

Could be good though, but there needs to be a darn compelling reason to switch from Pandora, which is already a pretty excellent free service. Usually Apple succeeds where others have failed, and I don't exactly see where Pandora is lagging here.

I may of course be wrong and would be happy to learn more about their concept.

NorEaster · Sep 6, 2012, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot'nApple

Name one product that Apple created? Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet? Nope, none of those. Now name one product that Apple through their innovation, reinvented the wheel and made it to where the 'me too' crowd scrambled to get theirs out the door! Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet! Yep! Now, you're catching on.

Smart boy!

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Umm..what about Ping and iOS Notifications? Oh wait... you didn't think of those because you constantly live in the reality-distortion field of Apple fanaticism.

Trying living without Apple blinders (and try being better at sarcasm while you're at it).

ConCat · Sep 6, 2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fins831

If they took on Spotify i'd be impressed, Pandora sucks by comparison.

I like pandora because it makes it easy to introduce myself to new music with extremely little effort on my part. If I find a song I like, I can make a station that will likely introduce me to even more music. It's quite nice.

samcraig · Sep 6, 2012, 08:01 PM

Love pandora and I know people rave about Spotify - but just haven't gotten into it.

That being said - this isn't all that exciting. How many streaming music apps/services do you really need?

If they go forward - it's most likely to push iAds. What I mean is - the iAd platform on iOS has been a hard/slow/expensive sell. It's not the moneymaker I believe Apple wanted it to be. The more places they can distribute iAds - the more impressions they can make and justify costs to the advertiser.

That will also factor into their Apple TV one day as well.

Nicolas4ever · Sep 6, 2012, 08:04 PM

I hope it's true.. I like pandora but its not available in france so i have to use vpn to use it.
Amazing news

faroZ06 · Sep 6, 2012, 08:17 PM

Whatever it is, I'm not listening to it if it has the quality of Pandora. It sounds worse than AM radio.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NorEaster

Umm..what about Ping and iOS Notifications? Oh wait... you didn't think of those because you constantly live in the reality-distortion field of Apple fanaticism.

Trying living without Apple blinders (and try being better at sarcasm while you're at it).

He never said that everything Apple made is great and/or innovative. The Apple fanatics living in the "reality-distortion field" (love the Star Trek reference) think that pretty much everything Apple makes is good. Well, here's a short list of a few recent and terrible products:

Apple TV gen 1 (basically a Tiger computer that can only run iTunes)
iPod shuffle without buttons (WTF)
Ping (oh please no, KILL IT WITH FIRE)
iMac G5 (failure-prone, but at least it was user-serviceable)
original MacBook Air (slow and lame)
iMovie '08 (destroyed the amazing iMovie HD line)

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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple

If it is ad supported and free, fine. Not gonna pay for a radio service though.

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Name one product that Apple created? Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet? Nope, none of those. Now name one product that Apple through their innovation, reinvented the wheel and made it to where the 'me too' crowd scrambled to get theirs out the door! Computer, digital music player, cell phone, tablet! Yep! Now, you're catching on.

Smart boy!

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What's up with the slashes after everything you say? It's just annoying.

ant.t · Sep 6, 2012, 08:40 PM

I've been paying for Spotify premium silence it came to US shores and it's perfect for 95% of my music needs. Light years better than Pandora. I just have to pay close attention to my "unlimited" at&t data. I'll gladly switch to a more integrated apple experience.

rickdollar · Sep 6, 2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NorEaster

Flame me all you want... but where are all of the Apple fanatics who always claim that Apple innovates and everyone else copies? Sounds like Apple is thinking about copying a music delivery model that someone else pioneered.

With a name like MacRumors, this site is naturally going to have a few loonies who think Apple can do no wrong. It's no different than what you'll find on a Microsoft, Canon, BMW, or any other brand enthusiast site. Don't let it bug you.

Xenc · Sep 6, 2012, 08:50 PM

It'd be interesting to see Apple's take on Spotify.

iMikeT · Sep 6, 2012, 08:51 PM

AYCE/discoverable music service through Apple? Yes please, I'll be first in line!

myers024 · Sep 6, 2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fins831

If they took on Spotify i'd be impressed, Pandora sucks by comparison.

agreed

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Apple vs Spotify

Tiger8 · Sep 6, 2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gregwyattjr

With the Genius feature, they should definitely give services like Pandora a run for their money. It would be great if they integrated a complete Pandora-like service into iTunes.

Thank you! I always get annoyed when pandora streams songs I already own in my iTunes collection.

Would be great if the service is smart enough to play those songs locally (and not have them count as a skip credit), and mix it with streamed content

Rumple · Sep 6, 2012, 10:23 PM

The only catch is you will probably need to buy the current generation mac to stream it.

I kid well wirelessly maybe.

econgeek · Sep 6, 2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NorEaster

Sounds like Apple is thinking about copying a music delivery model that someone else pioneered.

You're right. Apple should just buy Pandora. Much faster.

satcomer · 01:05 PM

Well for Pandora I use PandaBar. To me it actually worth the price since there is no need for the Pandora One cost because it streams it after paying the one time buying cost. It really takes up no processor power on my 2008 Mac Pro.

Rumple · Sep 6, 2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by satcomer

Well for Pandora i use the extellate PandaBar. To me it actually worth the price since there is no need for the Pandora One cost because it streams it after paying the one time buying cost. It really takes up no processor power on my 2008 Mac Pro.

That looks pretty cool. I would like to be able to do that then pipe it to my airport express and here it on my stereo.

satcomer · Sep 6, 2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumple

That looks pretty cool. I would like to be able to do that then pipe it to my airport express and here it on my stereo.

Maybe something like getting and AppleTV, Airport Express and getting Airfoil?

Rumple · Sep 6, 2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by satcomer

Maybe something like getting and AppleTV, Airport Express and getting Airfoil?

Thanks for the tip I've considered that a couple years ago then forgot about it. If only my mac mini had airplay support. It would be smooth sailing.

Sep 6, 2012, 07:29 PM	#27
NorEaster macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2012	Copy cat Apple? Flame me all you want... but where are all of the Apple fanatics who always claim that Apple innovates and everyone else copies? Sounds like Apple is thinking about copying a music delivery model that someone else pioneered.
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Sep 6, 2012, 07:33 PM	#28
Mykbibby macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Palm Springs, CA	Apple is so behind the times on digital music. I migrated to Spotify after being a loyal iTunes user for years and haven't looked back. I'm disappointed to hear the service will be ad-supported and radio based for the sake of my love for the company... but personally, this will be a great complement to my pre-existing Spotify collection. __________________ Mac Soda: Quenching Your Thirst for Everything Apple
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Sep 6, 2012, 08:40 PM	#39
ant.t macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2011	I've been waiting for this news! I've been paying for Spotify premium silence it came to US shores and it's perfect for 95% of my music needs. Light years better than Pandora. I just have to pay close attention to my "unlimited" at&t data. I'll gladly switch to a more integrated apple experience.
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Sep 6, 2012, 10:40 PM	#47
satcomer macrumors 68020 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia	Well for Pandora I use PandaBar. To me it actually worth the price since there is no need for the Pandora One cost because it streams it after paying the one time buying cost. It really takes up no processor power on my 2008 Mac Pro. __________________ Mac Book Pro Core 2 Duo 2.16Ghz, SuperDrive, 2G RAM, OS X 10.7.4 Mac Pro Dual 2.8 Quad(Rev B.), 14 G RAM, OS X 10.8.2, 23'' LCD iPad 3G, 32 black Last edited by satcomer; Sep 8, 2012 at 01:05 PM.
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Sep 6, 2012, 07:26 PM	#26
upthetoffees macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2012	All of these services discussed are incredibly poor for the musician. The musician is faced with 'ok people are grabbing your records for free, let's make them pay 0.0000005 cents per play, it's better than nothing. That is.. if they can be bothered to sign up. Oh and it might actually not be quite 0.000005'
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Sep 6, 2012, 07:43 PM	#31
taxiapple macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2009	Didn't Apple buy a music streaming company a couple years ago? Then they shut it down and as far I know didn't do anything with it.
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Sep 6, 2012, 07:50 PM	#33
filmantopia macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2010	Don't know... This sort of sounds like a Ping-y idea to me. Could be good though, but there needs to be a darn compelling reason to switch from Pandora, which is already a pretty excellent free service. Usually Apple succeeds where others have failed, and I don't exactly see where Pandora is lagging here. I may of course be wrong and would be happy to learn more about their concept.
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Sep 6, 2012, 08:01 PM	#36
samcraig macrumors G4 Join Date: Jun 2009	Love pandora and I know people rave about Spotify - but just haven't gotten into it. That being said - this isn't all that exciting. How many streaming music apps/services do you really need? If they go forward - it's most likely to push iAds. What I mean is - the iAd platform on iOS has been a hard/slow/expensive sell. It's not the moneymaker I believe Apple wanted it to be. The more places they can distribute iAds - the more impressions they can make and justify costs to the advertiser. That will also factor into their Apple TV one day as well.
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Sep 6, 2012, 08:04 PM	#37
Nicolas4ever macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2010	I hope it's true.. I like pandora but its not available in france so i have to use vpn to use it. Amazing news
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Sep 6, 2012, 08:50 PM	#41
Xenc macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2010 Location: London, England	It'd be interesting to see Apple's take on Spotify.
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Sep 6, 2012, 08:51 PM	#42
iMikeT macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California	AYCE/discoverable music service through Apple? Yes please, I'll be first in line!
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Sep 6, 2012, 10:23 PM	#45
Rumple macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2011	The only catch is you will probably need to buy the current generation mac to stream it. I kid well wirelessly maybe.
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