Yeah, I was planning to preorder through Apple tonight, just selecting the dumb phone as the line to upgrade. It shouldn't have to be ordered through Verizon, right?
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Carrier [Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole
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The reason I said this won't work for everyone is because it seems like every time I take part in the iPhone pre-release threads, someone who has a Nationwide Connect plan (or some other odd plan that doesn't exist anymore) chimes in.
What you're talking about is exactly what I've already started to do. Assuming you're on a Nationwide Family Share plan, you should be good to go. It would only cost $9.99+tax per month, as long as you remember to remove the data plan from the dumb phone.
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Unfortunately, you are stuck with the higher ETF because you used the upgrade to purchase a smartphone. They don't allow you to pay the lesser one even though you switched out to a dumb phone on that line in the end.
Correct...but you have to call VZW the day you receive it activate it on YOUR line.
Does anyone know the answer to this? I would like to know as well! Thanks!
Never mind, I just spoke to a Verizon rep online and they confirmed that the loophole does indeed work! You will receive 4G LTE because it's on the data network. However, the hotspot feature is only available on the shared data plan! Not sure why this would be the case, but if anyone finds out otherwise, please let me know!
Originally Posted by halfmonkey
So if I follow through with this loophole, do I get all of the benefits of the iphone 5?
In other words, do I get 4g/LTE or will the iphone be operating on 3g? Also, will I get the free hotspot? I ask these questions because on the new data plans 4g/LTE and free hot spot are part of the plans. Under VZ's old system, if you wanted 4g/LTE or a hotspot, you had to pay for it and so since this loophole allows you to get a 4g/LTE capable phone, will it operate with 4g/LTE and a hotspot since you're basically tricking the system or will it still be using 3g with no hotspot?
Does anyone know the answer to this? I would like to know as well! Thanks!
If you move the iPhone 5 to a line with unlimited data, then you will get unlimited data, however using it as a mobile hotspot is still extra for $30. Only the Share Everything data plans have the free hotspot option.
To answer the other part of your question, if you are using the iPhone 5 in an area with 4G LTE service, then you will get that service to use with unlimited data.
Perfect, thanks so much for your clarification!
It's annoying that Verizon locks the hotspot feature as it's available in Asia for FREE.
Perfect, thanks so much for your clarification!
It's annoying that Verizon locks the hotspot feature as it's available in Asia for FREE.
It can easily be unlocked by editing 1 line
Anyone adding any new line of service will automatically be forced into shared plans.
You completely missed the last three pages.
You can add a SUB account, and it wont affect your current plan at all.
Not necessarily true. It depends on what you mean by "shared." If you're on an individual plan and want to add a second line, then of course you will have to convert. However, if you are on a Nationwide Family Share plan, you can put individual data on, such as the 2GB/$30 option.
Question.. would this work?
Friend has an unlimited individual plan. His father also has Verizon and has an old non-smart phone and probably hasn't gotten a new phone since 2000. Can my friend use his father's upgrade to get the phone and switch it to his account (like the example used in the Family Share plan) and then just switch his father's plan back to whatever bare minimum plan he has?
Friend has an unlimited individual plan. His father also has Verizon and has an old non-smart phone and probably hasn't gotten a new phone since 2000. Can my friend use his father's upgrade to get the phone and switch it to his account (like the example used in the Family Share plan) and then just switch his father's plan back to whatever bare minimum plan he has?
Are you using SUB account? Because the rep I talked to today wouldn't let me add a line without going to a shared data plan??
Okay. Great find. However, how is this situation going to work with sim cards? When you order the phone on a different line, they will send you a sim preprogrammed to that number. When you switch back to the dumb phone, can you reuse the sim? Or will you have to wait a few days for a replacement?
Well the rep I just talked to said I can indeed just add lines to my existing family share plan for 9.99 a month. Won't work on the website but he will call me back at 9am tomorrow to do it
If in fact this is true, this would be the best case scenario because all of those that are upgrading via this loophole will get 4g/lte speeds and if we then pay an additional $30, we'll get unlimited hotspot. There's no way that the current plans can beat that. If this actually works, I guess I better like the iphone 5 because we will never be switching again.
Hi sorry to post an unrelated question here but I wonder the same trick works for AT&T? I remember seeing some posts about the same thing, getting the phone on a dumb line but not activating the phone with the dumb line so to avoid data. The question is whether AT&T also allows freezing, otherwise it will be $240 + tax. Thanks very much for any comment or help. Good luck.
if that is the case, you can get a free nano sim card from your local verizon store.
i remember when i got galaxy nexus directly from verizon the nano sim card came outside of the phone itself. it wasn't preprogrammed iirc.
A friend of mine has a single line Unlimited Data Plan. His brother-in-law has a 700 minute shared plan with an available upgrade. Originally we were told by three Reps at Verizon that it would be no problem for his brother-in-law to get the phone on his account, activate it, deactivate it and go back to his old phone/plan and then give my friend the phone to use on his Unlimited Data plan and he wouldn't lose Unlimited Data.
A fourth Rep just said that his brother-in-law would need to keep the phone activated on his account for 14 days BEFORE giving it to my friend to activate on the Unlimited Plan and that might not guarantee that it wouldn't terminate Unlimited Data.
Anyone have any thoughts or info on this?
A fourth Rep just said that his brother-in-law would need to keep the phone activated on his account for 14 days BEFORE giving it to my friend to activate on the Unlimited Plan and that might not guarantee that it wouldn't terminate Unlimited Data.
Anyone have any thoughts or info on this?
I am just going to share my thoughts.
I find it absolutely inane to consider getting this on a plan. You'd end up paying over a grand and a half for a phone that is really around $600-$700. If it's the breaking up of payments isn't it better to just put it on a credit card, but pay full price and pay it off?
I find it absolutely inane to consider getting this on a plan. You'd end up paying over a grand and a half for a phone that is really around $600-$700. If it's the breaking up of payments isn't it better to just put it on a credit card, but pay full price and pay it off?