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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:22 AM   #1
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Apple's Pandora-Killer Delayed Over Song Licensing Negotiations






Earlier this month, the WSJ reported that Apple was working on a streaming radio service to rival Pandora. Apple was reportedly in licensing negotiations with record labels, but was months away from launching the service.

Today, the New York Post reports that negotiations with music publisher Sony/ATV have hit a snag over the fee Apple would pay for each song streamed by its customers.
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Apple's plan to have its own music-streaming service built into the iPhone 5 was dramatically dashed when talks between the tech giant and Sony/ATV hit a last-minute snag, The Post has learned.

Sony/ATV, the world's largest music publisher, and Apple couldn't agree on a per-song rights fee, sources close to the situation said.

Those rights are usually tenths of a penny per stream, sources said. Sony/ATV was looking for a higher rate.
The Post reports that Apple wants better licensing rates than Pandora because it will direct record sales through the App Store, and Apple's restrictions on playing an artist multiple times would be looser than Pandora's.

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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:23 AM   #2
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Humm, Does Apple really need to go after this?
Look what happened to Maps. I really don't want them to foray on everything.

Bring a new kick ass MacPro and hi-end ACDs please......
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:24 AM   #3
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iTunes Match/in the Cloud all over again.

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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:26 AM   #4
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:26 AM   #5
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please fix iTunes Match first! having no cover art on half my songs is pushing my OCD limit
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:26 AM   #6
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Humm, Does Apple really need to go after this?
Look what happened to Maps. I really don't want them to foray on everything.

Bring a new kick ass MacPro and hi-end ACDs please......
But this isn't something totally new. All they'd have to do is enable streaming of songs. They already have several years of Genius data to use for song selection.

It'd be great to have this integrated right into the Music app.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:26 AM   #7
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That actually looks like Stalin more than Freddie Mercury.

But that applies there too.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:27 AM   #8
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I think it may be time to look into pursuing other ventures other companies haven't already done pretty damn well. Innovation.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:27 AM   #9
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Why does every article need a "-killer" in it? ipad-killer...pandora-killer...

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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:27 AM   #10
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Yea, this will go great with my shared data plans from the douche carriers.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:28 AM   #11
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I certainly enjoy Spotify. I'm sure Apple, with a much larger catalog, can offer a better service.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:28 AM   #12
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I think it may be time to look into pursuing other ventures other companies haven't already done pretty damn well. Innovation.
Apple owns the largest music store in the world with iTunes. They can crush the competition if they make something remotely good.

They would be fools not to pursue this.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:28 AM   #13
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But this isn't something totally new. All they'd have to do is enable streaming of songs. They already have several years of Genius data to use for song selection.

It'd be great to have this integrated right into the Music app.
That's fine if they want to do this. I just wish they can focus on more important things like "computers" for professionals.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:29 AM   #14
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I wish ATT offered rollover data instead of minutes....I don't talk on my phone really lol.

I paid for my data, I want to keep it, then maybe I'd be able to actually use my phone to its potential
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:29 AM   #15
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MacRumors, if it's suppose to be a service "built into the iPhone 5", how can you call it a Pandora-Killer, a popular service available to everyone (in the U.S.)?
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:30 AM   #16
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Would have been a nice feature if it was offered in the iPhone 5. Maybe Apple wanted to offer it exclusively, like how Siri for the 4S?
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:31 AM   #17
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I've always wanted an iTunes streaming service. What do you think it would be most like? Pandora or Spotify? I'm currently a Spotify member, and I like their model of "you choose what you want to listen to". If Apple made their service similar to Pandora, where you don't have a choice as to what you listen to, I'd probably pass.

But just imagine, having the entire iTunes library at your fingertips, streaming on demand. Heaven!

I'd probably pay 15 a month for it. I current pay 10 for Spotify.
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Why does every article need a "-killer" in it? ipad-killer...pandora-killer...

Sigh.
The last time we used "-killer" in an article was over a year ago.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/05/...ow-end-iphone/
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:33 AM   #19
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Why does every article need a "-killer" in it? ipad-killer...pandora-killer...

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Hyperbole sells.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:33 AM   #20
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Pandora killer? Rigggggggggght.
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Pandora killer? Rigggggggggght.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:35 AM   #22
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Maybe it'll arrive with iTunes 11, I doubt it though.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:38 AM   #23
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Why does every article need a "-killer" in it? ipad-killer...pandora-killer...

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It's sensationalism. Simply stating that Apple is offering a competitive service doesn't attract eyeballs like calling it a "Pandora Killer!!!!!". I too am often annoyed at the underlying idea that there can't be more than one product in any given space, and that all new services & products must be aimed at killing off another.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:38 AM   #24
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I don't use any streaming sites, but an Apple one done well would tempt me.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:38 AM   #25
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please fix iTunes Match first! having no cover art on half my songs is pushing my OCD limit
I had one album art not show up in my library and it annoyed the hell out of me. That killed iTunes Match for me. That and plus it would stream censored versions of songs I had.

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