Not to mention that I cannot recall in any of apples public addresses that they pointed out that youtube and Google Maps would no longer be included?
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Not to mention that I cannot recall in any of apples public addresses that they pointed out that youtube and Google Maps would no longer be included?
Agreed, works great here in Hawaii and the Maps have been spot on. Then again Apple holds itself to a higher standard. Google just keeps saying its BETA
Its interesting that the new apple is so willing to backpedal whenever they're criticized for something. Remember the NY times article about employee wages and then the press release that they were increasing wages. Then there was the working conditions in china, which they then opened up to human rights groups to inspect. Then there was the thing where they ditched the green certification, and then got back on it. I think there's another example i missing.
Someone with great conviction won't apologize for their mistakes if they believe in the big picture. The Apple apologies might diminish their character a little.
Then again people with great character can admit when they're wrong. I don't know what to think.
It does seem like it'll help people (and the media) get past this maps issue.
Someone with great conviction won't apologize for their mistakes if they believe in the big picture. The Apple apologies might diminish their character a little.
Then again people with great character can admit when they're wrong. I don't know what to think.
It does seem like it'll help people (and the media) get past this maps issue.
I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to use a real map. One from AAA or a Thomas Guide. The fact that people have enough time to complain about this is amazing.
I guess I still use common sense. I expected a new product to be a bit buggy. I expected that if they wanted to provide turn by turn for free and the partner company would not comply, they would build their own. I would expect an apology and some insight from the company. I would expect, as Tim Cook said, they will fix it.
I guess I still use common sense. I expected a new product to be a bit buggy. I expected that if they wanted to provide turn by turn for free and the partner company would not comply, they would build their own. I would expect an apology and some insight from the company. I would expect, as Tim Cook said, they will fix it.
just use the web app
it has 95% of the functionality of the old app. for the rest of us the navigation is what we want
Don't get me wrong guys, I LOVE the new Apple maps. I"m sure there are a lot of people out there affected by the bad data, but their software is perfect.
It's just a shame that this got "overblown" and Apple had to stoop this low to appease everyone, even though I feel they didn't have to.
User error!
It's sad that Apple has had to apologize for what is just user error. Apple's map data is 100% correct, otherwise they would not have launched it. It's as simple as that.
If your search shows that your favorite restaurant is in the "wrong" place, you need to ask yourself "why would this restaurant lie to me?" Do you really want to eat at places that lie about their location?
It's sad that Apple has had to apologize for what is just user error. Apple's map data is 100% correct, otherwise they would not have launched it. It's as simple as that.
If your search shows that your favorite restaurant is in the "wrong" place, you need to ask yourself "why would this restaurant lie to me?" Do you really want to eat at places that lie about their location?
In my opinion Tim Cook's real mistake was not explaining before hand why Apple did what they did with Maps. Everyone keeps assuming it was a screw-up, but I'm of the opinion that it was the right thing to do and that given the circumstances there was no really better way to do it. Here are some points.
1. Google would not provide services that would let the iPhone be at parity with Android, or at least would not do so without unreasonable concessions.
2. Google doesn't currently have an app to compete with what Apple released. Yes, they have the old app still, but it's functionality is far short of what the new Maps app has, despite problems with accuracy.
3. The way a map app gets good is that lots of people use it and report errors. Keeping both apps side by side would dramatically slow down the improvement and Maps would never be able to catch up to google.
Strategically, this was played extremely well. They leave Google without an answer until they can combine the code base of Google earth with a Map app (not going to happen in just a few weeks). Most people will grumble a little and keep using Maps, making it better and in a year or so, everyone will forget it happened. All of these other scenarios that people are proposing would have been much worse for Apple. But, as I said, Tim should have just come out and told us, "Hey we need your help to get away from a strangle hold that Google has on us. Please be patient with this app and help us improve it, it will be better for all of us in the long run." Had he done that, most of us would have sucked it up and it would be a much smaller story. Just my 2 cents.
1. Google would not provide services that would let the iPhone be at parity with Android, or at least would not do so without unreasonable concessions.
2. Google doesn't currently have an app to compete with what Apple released. Yes, they have the old app still, but it's functionality is far short of what the new Maps app has, despite problems with accuracy.
3. The way a map app gets good is that lots of people use it and report errors. Keeping both apps side by side would dramatically slow down the improvement and Maps would never be able to catch up to google.
Strategically, this was played extremely well. They leave Google without an answer until they can combine the code base of Google earth with a Map app (not going to happen in just a few weeks). Most people will grumble a little and keep using Maps, making it better and in a year or so, everyone will forget it happened. All of these other scenarios that people are proposing would have been much worse for Apple. But, as I said, Tim should have just come out and told us, "Hey we need your help to get away from a strangle hold that Google has on us. Please be patient with this app and help us improve it, it will be better for all of us in the long run." Had he done that, most of us would have sucked it up and it would be a much smaller story. Just my 2 cents.
I like Maps and will not be downloading any alternatives. I have reported a bunch of POI errors to Apple so I hope they actually make the changes so it's more polished. I'm willing to wait.
Siri and iPhone Maps
I personally haven't had too many problems with the iPhone apps or Siri, and when I did, even my other maps (the car's built in navigation system) or a third party GPS app on my iPhone also had similar problems. Heck, I've even had Google maps put me on the wrong side of an intersection more than once...
Maps aren't easy, roads change and there's 55,650,943 miles of roads in the US and it changes literally every day as roadwork commences through the nation. Buildings go up, they go down, business relocate, and you can only get it so accurate before it changes again.
Its amazing it works as good as it does, even Google should admit their first crack at maps were less than stellar. Anyone remember Mapquests first maps?? I do, they suu'uucked.
Christopher Powers
I personally haven't had too many problems with the iPhone apps or Siri, and when I did, even my other maps (the car's built in navigation system) or a third party GPS app on my iPhone also had similar problems. Heck, I've even had Google maps put me on the wrong side of an intersection more than once...
Maps aren't easy, roads change and there's 55,650,943 miles of roads in the US and it changes literally every day as roadwork commences through the nation. Buildings go up, they go down, business relocate, and you can only get it so accurate before it changes again.
Its amazing it works as good as it does, even Google should admit their first crack at maps were less than stellar. Anyone remember Mapquests first maps?? I do, they suu'uucked.
Christopher Powers
Good alternative to the Google Maps monopoly.
Note that Google added street view to their mobile site quickly after iOS 6 was released.
Note that Google added street view to their mobile site quickly after iOS 6 was released.
Take off your iblinders bro... Even cook has admitted that Google maps is better.
I'm no marketing genius, but
releasing the public apology = pretty smooth. Showing all of your "unhappy "customers all of the other inferior options (which they could buy IN YOUR APP STORE)
GENIUS!
Apple may look dumb here, but will again go down in history for winning even WHILE they're losing.
Apple may look dumb here, but will again go down in history for winning even WHILE they're losing.
I think you need to rephrase this. That google wouldn't do so without concessions Apple was willing to make. Saying google's request was unreasonable is prejudicial. Perhaps unreasonable to Apple - but that doesn't make it unreasonable to 3rd parties and/or Google.
It's taking time for them to change it to TimTim navigation
There is no real benefit for Google to release a maps application for iOS. They would rather see it founder and people complain than release an app. I think they see the lack of google maps as something with greater value than any advertising revenue or other traffic that would be generated by a new application.
I hate than i think I am right on this.. I want a new maps app also..
This going a bit too far now. If you can't find a replacement map ap on the store - you should be flogged in public.
