I would pay to see someone use a device this large as a phone. It's already hilarious to watch someone use an S3, which covers the better part of their face.
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I would pay to see someone use a device this large as a phone. It's already hilarious to watch someone use an S3, which covers the better part of their face.
I'm not going to say "it'll never happen" because the iPhone 4S and the naming of the iPhone 5 were both surprises to me
However, with both the iPod touch and iPhone 5 there were a ton of leaks. People dug into the SDK and found the 4" iPhone's screen size.
With the new Macs at WWDC there were leaks: Remember the disappointing Macbook Pro specs? The rumours of a Retina MacBook Pro? Both turned out to be true.
Yet there's been virtually nothing about the iPad mini - it just seems like everyone WANTS it to happen.
The iPhone 5 runs all previous iPhone apps "like the developer intended" - how would the iPad mini do this with iPad apps?
I totally agree.
The other thing is we never see Apple compete in price wars with other brands. Everyone can wish all they want that Apple plays in the price wars but until their sales start dropping off I don't see it happening.
I know you mean "Man, I don't know about that!"
How come the way you say it is so much cooler?
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Ah, the word 'yay', no matter how I look at it, it doesn't look right.
I'm sticking with 'yeah' even though you think that means 'yeah' which is spelled the same but pronounced differently.
Never heard of something called a bluetooth headset?
I can see the ipad-mini combining with a dumbphone. Use the phone for basic calls/sms, while your ipad does the rest (gaming/surfing/email etc). Not sure if this necessarily cannibalises sales.
Thanks for the link.
That's exactly the type of report I was referring to earlier... nothin' but estimates:
Google's Nexus 7 tablet is on course to shift more than 8 million units in 2012, according to sales estimates.
- The website believes that the search engine giant will sell 3 million Nexus 7 units in the third quarter, and between 3 and 5 million in in the fourth, which would see the device exceed Google's targets. <-- (what are those targets?)
So... there are analysts who predicted a certain number of sales by a certain date. Fantastic.
- The platform holder is hoping to sell 3 million Nexus 7 tablets in 2012.
But after that date... will we get verification?
Are we just supposed to accept the estimates written in an article 3 months prior... and turn those into facts?
I realize the Nexus 7 has only been on the market for a couple months. All we can do is predict going forward through 2012.
BUT.... unless Google, Inc puts out a press release on January 1, 2013 with ACTUAL numbers about how many they sold in 2012... then the analysts can shove those numbers up their ass
Then again... Amazon has NEVER shared their sales numbers of the Kindle... so I guess that makes it OK?
I know what you mean. It's just like when S3 shipping numbers were released. Samsung was pleased as punch to send out the press release claiming 9 mil units preordered to ship, but was inexplicably silent when end-user based hard numbers were in question. Atleast with Samsung, there was some sort of math done. I've no idea where analylists pull their numbers from.
Couldn't agree more... :-(
I absolutely hate Apple becoming an iDevice company. I no longer consider OS X to be a superior system.
I don't understand where this fits into the apple inc product line...won't an "iPad mini" cannibalize the iPod touch and the bigger iPad's sales? Consumers who can't afford an iPad will buy an iPad mini & people that want an iPod touch will say I might as well get an iPad mini (if the price point is similar)
If all those products make money... who cares which ones people buy? Apple will make hefty margins on EVERY product they sell... or else they wouldn't offer them at all.
And there's always the upsell potential. $300 brings you into the store for the iPad Mini. But you can get the bigger iPad 2 for $400. And Retina for $500. And the price goes even higher for more capacity and LTE.
It's the same thing I noticed when pricing the MacBook Air:
$1000 - 11" MacBook Air 64GB
$1100 - 11" MacBook Air 128GB
$1200 - 13" Macbook Air 128GB
Damn... only $200 more gets you a bigger screen AND double the storage of the entry-level model? That seems like the winner.
But it wouldn't matter if someone did choose the cheapest 11" Air... because Apple still profits from it anyway.
Does the 11" Air cannibalize the 13" Air? Obviously not in Apple's eyes. They both make money.
Throughout this thread I keep hearing "Where does the iPad mini fit into Apple's product line?"
Guess what... Apple already makes 3 different sizes of laptops... 2 different sizes of iMacs... 5 types of iPods... and 3 models of phones.
Yet people are baffled by the concept of an additional iPad model...
When the iPhone 4S came out last year... 89% of iPhone sales were the more expensive iPhone 4S... not the cheaper iPhone 4.
And the more expensive Retina iPad outsold the cheaper iPad 2 as well.
On the flipside... the cheaper MacBooks outsell their more expensive brothers.
But it doesn't matter... because ALL Apple products make gobs of money... regardless of what they are. Again... Apple doesn't sell a product unless it makes a healthy profit.
Amazon and Google are happy to sell a product at cost or below... because hardware isn't their main business. They make money on content sales and advertising... high volume, low margins.
But Apple IS a hardware company... decent volume, and incredible margins.
So no... I don't think Apple is worried about cannibalization among their own products. Any Apple product you buy still earns them a pretty penny.
As for where the iPad Mini "fits in" I suggest you go to the Apple Store and look around. Apple has a pretty diverse product line.
Keep dreaming guys and gilrs. This product will be released but it will not be $200. It will not be $300. Your looking at $350 to $400 starting. Apple stocks will not hit $1000 per share with a $200 tablet. That's all everyone cares about; stock prices. Innovation and customer experience is thrown out the window because of this. All we can expect is a new round of lawsuits to slow down the competition. They can sue Samsung every other week but not release a map update in the same time period. Recommending competitor maps/apps???? Apple has lost it.
Time to get back to the basics and fix your bread and butter device; the iPhone.
Time to get back to the basics and fix your bread and butter device; the iPhone.
A lot of people don't know sarcasm when they see it so please put /Sarcasam/ in your post.
it's funny cuz right before Iphone 5 release, someone commented the same thing as you did..despite all the pics and rumor. LOL. it looked very realy and it does make sense to COMPETE with other vendors that already had this in the current market.
I would buy it.. it's better than having samsung note. LOL
They have to do something... this Nexus7 w/ Jelly Bean is just amazing. Great hardware, great form factor and the first version of Android that doesn't suck.
Not to mention an awesome price point.
Not to mention an awesome price point.
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If all those products make money... who cares which ones people buy? Apple will make hefty margins on EVERY product they sell... or else they wouldn't offer them at all.
And there's always the upsell potential. $300 brings you into the store for the iPad Mini. But you can get the bigger iPad 2 for $400. And Retina for $500. And the price goes even higher for more capacity and LTE.
It's the same thing I noticed when pricing the MacBook Air:
$1000 - 11" MacBook Air 64GB
$1100 - 11" MacBook Air 128GB
$1200 - 13" Macbook Air 128GB
Damn... only $200 more gets you a bigger screen AND double the storage of the entry-level model? That seems like the winner.
But it wouldn't matter if someone did choose the cheapest 11" Air... because Apple still profits from it anyway.
Does the 11" Air cannibalize the 13" Air? Obviously not in Apple's eyes. They both make money.
Throughout this thread I keep hearing "Where does the iPad mini fit into Apple's product line?"
Guess what... Apple already makes 3 different sizes of laptops... 2 different sizes of iMacs... 5 types of iPods... and 3 models of phones.
Yet people are baffled by the concept of an additional iPad model...
When the iPhone 4S came out last year... 89% of iPhone sales were the more expensive iPhone 4S... not the cheaper iPhone 4.
And the more expensive Retina iPad outsold the cheaper iPad 2 as well.
On the flipside... the cheaper MacBooks outsell their more expensive brothers.
But it doesn't matter... because ALL Apple products make gobs of money... regardless of what they are. Again... Apple doesn't sell a product unless it makes a healthy profit.
Amazon and Google are happy to sell a product at cost or below... because hardware isn't their main business. They make money on content sales and advertising... high volume, low margins.
But Apple IS a hardware company... decent volume, and incredible margins.
So no... I don't think Apple is worried about cannibalization among their own products. Any Apple product you buy still earns them a pretty penny.
As for where the iPad Mini "fits in" I suggest you go to the Apple Store and look around. Apple has a pretty diverse product line.
you made a very good point.
The screen really is the sticking point. 1024x768 is going to look plain bad next to the alternatives. No getting around that. But there's also no getting around the fact that many people *do* prefer the 7" form factor, and Apple is missing out on that market.
As much as some don't want to see an iPad Mini, its going to happen. I believe Jim said the event would be in October. Jim is NEVER wrong, unless the date has changed.
Plus Apple needs to update the iPad 3 to the lighting cable. It all makes sense now...months ago, they said there would be a minor update to the iPad 3...I guess we know the reasoning now.
iPad Mini and iPad 3 update, with the new port next month...just in time for those Black Friday and Christmas sales. Brilliant thinking, Apple.
Perfect timing for the new iTunes 11 release next month as well. Its all lining up.
Plus Apple needs to update the iPad 3 to the lighting cable. It all makes sense now...months ago, they said there would be a minor update to the iPad 3...I guess we know the reasoning now.
iPad Mini and iPad 3 update, with the new port next month...just in time for those Black Friday and Christmas sales. Brilliant thinking, Apple.
Perfect timing for the new iTunes 11 release next month as well. Its all lining up.
There was nothing ridiculous or un-Apple-like about naming the newest iPhone the iPhone 5 (since 5 = 4+1). Fragmentation is un-Apple-like.
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I'm not really sure which size is better for an iPad if you're using it as a lightweight PC, but this is perfect for car and house integration. The original iPad is too big for those uses. Crestron devices that just control your home theater cost $1000+, and an iPad mini would do a better job at a much lower price.
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Downscaling would work. Mac OS does that, I think.
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Yeah, seriously, I always feel like Apple is a small company struggling against the superior resources of its huge competitors. Then I remember their company value. The iOS stuff is really nice, but my favorite Apple product is Mac OS, the only OS for the PC that isn't frustrating to use.
