McLaren P1 revealed

[msimpson]

[avro707]

Unfortunately we don't get to find out what the powertrain is, they are leaving that until next year when the production model launches, but Washington Post has revealed more:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/cars/m...7bd_story.html

Key points:

- Drag CD is 0.34
- Lowest frontal area of any car in class
- 1320lbs downforce at 125mph
- DRS system (drag reduction system) for rear-wing
- 3.7 pounds or less per horsepower
- two underbody flaps at the front, operating in 0-60° range
- Rear wing angle car go up to 29°
- Rear wing extends by 120mm on the road
- Rear wing extends by up to 300mm on the race-track
- The orange show car had slick tyres on it
- Variable ride-height. The media pictures showed the car in the "race" setting
- The top air-intake for the engine is part of the carbon-fibre monocell.
- The engine bay is lined with gold again(!)

Unlike F1 DRS implementations, the flaps on the wing don't move, but the entire rear wing angle changes to reduce the drag and downforce generation by the rear wing. The engine bay appears to be lined with gold again, so we can guess that the engine and exhaust makes an awful lot of heat, just like the old F1 did.

From the photos at the Paris motorshow, there are clear influences on this car from contemporary F1 technology. So that's all they are revealing until next year, unless someone breaks some media embargoes.

[neilmacd]

There is a McLaren F1 team member on a forum I visit who when asked if we'll ever see the P1 in competition said something along the lines of "If it's (a system) banned (from competition), it's on the car". Therefore unlikely to see it race but think of all the technology hidden away under that body!

[avro707]

Originally Posted by neilmacd

There is a McLaren F1 team member on a forum I visit who when asked if we'll ever see the P1 in competition said something along the lines of "If it's (a system) banned (from competition), it's on the car". Therefore unlikely to see it race but think of all the technology hidden away under that body!

That's the great thing with these new generation super-cars. Ferrari and McLaren are throwing everything at them. The Ferrari is amazing, it's the size of a 458 Italia and it's got a whacking big 6.3L V12 jammed in the back of it, with electric assistance to help it.

Great images of the engine and the Magneti-Marelli magic boxes:

http://www.inautonews.com/ferrari-f7...6#.UH00O4WLFt5

[GermanyChris]

Originally Posted by AlphaDogg

This is the only McLaren I would ever want:
Image

Specialized teamed up with McLaren to come up with the lightest, most aerodynamic, and very stiff race bike frame. I think it's sub 900g. It's called the McLaren Venge.

You can keep the Venge..

This is what I ride no better bike made IMHO

[Theadamh123]

Originally Posted by avro707

Another rumour points to the prototype lapping Silverstone race circuit in Northhamptonshire, England some 25 seconds faster than any other road-car.

Thats impossible! Theres no way it would be quicker than an atom V8!

[AhmedFaisal]

Originally Posted by avro707

http://www.caradvice.com.au/191910/m...rcar-revealed/

McLaren has revealed their ultimate supercar, dubbed "P1". The talk is according to insiders that it has power output as high as 720kW, while the weight is less than 1300kg. Another rumour points to the prototype lapping Silverstone race circuit in Northhamptonshire, England some 25 seconds faster than any other road-car.

Finally, the suspense is over.

Edit: Power rumoured to be 600kW (the V8 engine) + 120kW (KERS).

To quote from Bad Boys. That thing is nothing but a big shiny cock and the two guys in it are the balls that get dragged along.....

[avro707]

Originally Posted by Theadamh123

Thats impossible! Theres no way it would be quicker than an atom V8!

Silverstone is a top speed and horsepower circuit with lots of really long straights and high speed corners.

A car with lots of downforce, big grippy tyres, low frontal area, double-diffusers and other tricks has a really good chance of doing it around there.

We'll see anyway - there is a long way to go yet and they've not told us a lot about the car. But we did get that launch at Paris with Kasabian blasting away at high volume, with a Jaguar F-Type nearby and a new Range Rover not far away either. The Brits took over that show.

Speaking of the F-Type, I had a look at an F-Type S last night, it's very impressive. The interior is beautifully crafted and also quite spacious. But my heart belongs to the Lamborghini Sesto Elemento, which they very kindly let me crawl around and get inside it. If it looks crazy outside, it's even more crazy inside.

[-SD-]

Originally Posted by leekohler

Am I the only one who thinks that car is ugly?

It looks like something Batman would drive....

[Theadamh123]

Originally Posted by avro707

Silverstone is a top speed and horsepower circuit with lots of really long straights and high speed corners.

A car with lots of downforce, big grippy tyres, low frontal area, double-diffusers and other tricks has a really good chance of doing it around there.

We'll see anyway - there is a long way to go yet and they've not told us a lot about the car. But we did get that launch at Paris with Kasabian blasting away at high volume, with a Jaguar F-Type nearby and a new Range Rover not far away either. The Brits took over that show.

Speaking of the F-Type, I had a look at an F-Type S last night, it's very impressive. The interior is beautifully crafted and also quite spacious. But my heart belongs to the Lamborghini Sesto Elemento, which they very kindly let me crawl around and get inside it. If it looks crazy outside, it's even more
crazy inside.

True but not 25 secs qucker, that about the difference bettween a fiesta and a audi R8

[SockRolid]

Originally Posted by tzhu07

These modern 21st century supercars still do not top the Ferrari F40 ...

Just wait for the first road tests of the P1.

At least we know one thing for sure: the F50 certainly didn't top the F40.

[iJohnHenry]

Yep, this is all good stuff.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/arti...rough-backyard

[obeygiant]

Originally Posted by iJohnHenry

Yep, this is all good stuff.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/arti...rough-backyard

Thanks for ******** in this thread. GB2 PRSI.

[aarond12]

Originally Posted by avro707

And the Porsche part of the new supercar battle has been revealed too:

http://www.9magazine.com/918-spyder-...re-leaked.html

That car is sex on wheels, as is the McLaren. I think the middle console on the Porsche looks a little too much like a Prius though.
http://gallery.carreview.com/data/ca...a_prius_30.jpg
(ducks)

[PinkyMacGodess]

Originally Posted by senseless

I still can't believe they're selling quarter million dollar cars. How many people can buy these toys, really?

Enough to make it worth it. Ask the hucksters that created this retched economy what they drive. (All should be under lock and key IMO, only able to drive a tri-cycle, if they are lucky)

[Supa_Fly]

Originally Posted by cantthinkofone

Check out the a$$ on that girl...DAMN.

LMAO! Man I was thinking the same thing! Its a bit too humpback whale type a$$ for my liking. Bubble, Apple, heartshaped is my thing.

Originally Posted by avro707

And the Porsche part of the new supercar battle has been revealed too:

http://www.9magazine.com/918-spyder-...re-leaked.html

So, 7m:14sec lap of the Nurburgring, 4.6L V8 with 426kW, and with the two electric motors, this increases to 585kW. So it would appear to be not as fast as the McLaren (by the rumours), but it certainly looks the part, especially with the retro Porsche-Salzburg (the 917 team ran by Louisa Piech) and Martini team liveries.

Now we await the launch of the Ferrari (the "F70" prototype seen driving around Maranello) and the Jaguar C-X75, a 1.6L 500hp 4 cylinder turbo/supercharged car with electric assistance of unknown power.

I'd take this 918 Spyder over ANYTHING hands down. A generator for an eletric motor; fascinating.

[iJohnHenry]

Originally Posted by Prom1

A generator for an electric motor; fascinating.

This made me smile.

Just last week, an old friend (83) mentioned an old car (?) that used to have a starter/generator on a chain drive around the flywheel. He said you could barely hear it start, unlike the mechanical oddity that is still used today.

[nissan.gtp]

Originally Posted by Theadamh123

True but not 25 secs qucker, that about the difference bettween a fiesta and a audi R8

I would believe 2.5 seconds

[iGav]

Originally Posted by avro707

Now we await the launch of the.... and the Jaguar C-X75, a 1.6L 500hp 4 cylinder turbo/supercharged car with electric assistance of unknown power.

Not anymore, Jaguar have just axed it. Didn't they learn anything from the farcical XJ220 debacle...?