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2012 College Football Thread
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No, I didn't get tickets this year. Unemployment kind of limits funds for such things.
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Notre Dame is a top 20 team but to put them in the top 10 is not legit they have played a weak schedule against weak Big 10(12) teams,Military academy schools and finish their games with nobody yes I remember USC but like I said they finish with nobody. Their win against OU was their best and only really quality opponent this year they should all get drunk and become patio furniture.
Notre Dame is a top 20 team but to put them in the top 10 is not legit they have played a weak schedule against weak Big 10(12) teams,Military academy schools and finish their games with nobody yes I remember USC but like I said they finish with nobody. Their win against OU was their best and only really quality opponent this year they should all get drunk and become patio furniture.
You could say the same about Alabama, actually. The only team that's tough that they are playing against is LSU.
Including quality wins over *cough* Michigan, which Notre Dame beat as well.
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Ya, being a Top 10 team in the country sucks so bad considering you were supposed to still be a year away from being good...
Seven of the top 16 in the BCS (five of the top eight) are SEC teams and at least ten of the 14 will be bowl eligible. By season's end (if they go undefeated), they will have played four of the other six. The Tide certainly can't help it that Arkansas, Tennessee and Auburn haven't been up to snuff this year, but beating the hell out of them still says something.
And while I agree that Michigan sucks, nobody seemed to think that two months ago before the game in Arlington. Alabama appears to be just that much better than everyone else right now.
Ok?
Eh I don't really think it does. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Alabama is not #1 or anything, but really their schedule just isn't up to par with the perception of that grueling SEC schedule. I said it earlier and I'll say it again, the SEC isn't that great top to bottom, and certainly not compared to previous years.
Right, but that doesn't matter now that we know they aren't that great. When you're comparing strength of schedule, and you try and point out that Alabama has a tough schedule and say that Notre Dame doesn't, well, you're wrong. Alabama should be blowing out those teams, because they aren't good at all. And Mississippi State should have never been ranked #11, just as Michigan shouldn't have been ranked #8. Those are the only two ranked teams they've played. Literally every other team they've played is garbage.
They will probably blow LSU out too. I don't think they are that good (at least in SEC terms). Texas A&M will probably be the closest game they have all season until they play Georgia in the SEC championship.
Just because you're in the SEC doesn't make you automatically the best teams around every year. In fact, I'd say both the Pac-12 and Big 12 are better this year top-bottom than the SEC.
and just a quick tidbit, Alabama and ND are #1 and #2 in points against. Seeing as the strength of their schedule is roughly equal (though ND has certainly been tougher), that's something to pay attention to.
Alabama is, without a doubt, the best team in the land. It's almost unfair that they are so good.
Half of the SEC is ranked in the top 16 of the BCS. That's pretty solid by any estimation, I think.
I'm not saying that. Not having the 13th game, however, could hurt ND while it helps Oregon.
I seriously doubt that. Their offense is bad and their special teams isn't as good as it's been, so I don't think they can beat Alabama, but the game is in Baton Rouge where LSU almost never loses. I think it'll be close.
I agree with the first sentence but laugh at the second one. Outside of Kansas State, the Big 12 is pretty bad this year. OU and Okie State are down a bit, Tech is decent but not a top tier team (even though they're probably the second-best team in the league), UT is the worst 6-2 team in the history of college football, TCU is struggling without Pachall, Baylor is Baylor, Kansas is one of the worst teams in D-I, etc., etc., etc.
The Pac-12 is good at the very top (Oregon, Stanford) and decent just below that (Oregon State, USC) but after that what are they?
I disagree. I think that the perception of the SEC over the past few years give them clout, and in turn even if they aren't great, they are ranked much better.
Oh, I thought you were trying to say that. Yes I agree. I think K-State ends up in though due to USC and stuff losing.
In the series the home team tends to lose (at least that's what I thought). But I still don't think LSU is going to really play that inspired. Idk, I could be wrong, but I'm predicting a big win for Alabama to the tune of 24-9 or something.
I disagree based on Oklahoma, Kansas State, Ok State, Texas Tech, Texas, West Virginia (they'll bounce back). I just don't see how you can say the SEC is better top-bottom when literally the only good teams are Alabama and Florida, and a decent Georgia and mediocre LSU. Yes those teams could match up and probably beat the teams from the Big 12, but total? I don't think so.
Stanford isn't really that good, neither is USC. The best teams are definitely Oregon and Oregon State. USC is a couple of really good players, but nothing special outside of that. But you're forgetting that Cal, and the teams from Arizona have been pretty decent this year. Cal lost to Ohio State 35-28 in Columbus, for example.
I'll ask you now, outside of the teams I mentioned, who is even worth mentioning in the SEC?
Let's just compare the Big 12 versus the SEC from the top on down.
- K-State or Alabama
- Oklahoma or Georgia
- Texas Tech or Florida
- West Virginia or LSU
- Texas or South Carolina
- Oklahoma State or Mississippi State
- Iowa State or Texas A&M
- TCU or Ole Miss
- Baylor or Arkansas
- Kansas or Tennessee
- None or Vanderbilt
- None or Missouri
- None or Kentucky
- None or Auburn
Yup. I stand by my opinion that from the top-down the Big 12 and Pac 12 are better. I think Baylor, TCU, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State would win against their counterparts.
So you think the top five of the SEC is better than the top half of the Big 12. TCU vs Ole Miss and Okie State vs Miss St are toss-ups.
Then your flawed logic says that...
- Iowa State, which couldn't stay within two TDs of Mike Sherman's Texas A&M teams, would beat the Sumlin/Manziel Aggies.
- Baylor could play enough defense to stop Arkansas.
I don't think so.
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Well if you only compare those teams directly to each other. Mix all those teams up playing against each other, yeah I think so.
Example, Iowa State vs Tennessee or something instead of strictly vs A&M.
And I don't think that the top 5 SEC teams would necessarily beat the top 5 Big 12 teams either.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Other than KSU, OU and Tech, I think the Big 12 is pretty horrible this year.
Yeah that's perfectly fine. That's the best part about college football. Who the hell knows until they play each other?
I think it would be an interesting exercise to see how everyone would rank the teams from the Big 12 and SEC, from 1-24 (or hell, throw in the Pac-12 and rank 'em from 1-36).
No doubt. I don't know how anyone, including Tomorrow, can still be arguing against a 4-team playoff when there's a very real possibility that you could end up with Alabama, Kansas State, Oregon, Notre Dame and Ohio State* all undefeated at the end of the year, all with legitimate claims to the #1 or #2 spot. Hell, if the season ended today, four wouldn't be nearly enough. How much fun would an 8-team playoff be if it looked like:
#1 Alabama
#8 Florida State
#4 Oregon
#5 LSU
#3 Notre Dame
#6 Georgia
#2 Kansas State
#7 Florida
#1 Alabama
#8 Florida State
#4 Oregon
#5 LSU
#3 Notre Dame
#6 Georgia
#2 Kansas State
#7 Florida
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I think that would be kick a&& if you ask me. Won't happen, but it would be nice to see!
Put my picks in bold, which would be 5-5 excluding the bottom ones. Auburn, Kentucky, and Missouri are all JV teams at best. Vandy isn't great, but I appreciate their team. And even though Texas is crummy, without Lattimore, I wouldn't put any money on their games for the rest of the year.
No way West Virginia would beat LSU. That defense would shut their gimmick offense down completely