iPad Mini Confirmed to Carry Stereo Speakers

darkslide29 said:

2) Is the iPad Mini (and iPad 2) really a low res display? I swore I watched 720p movies on my iPad 2. While they may have not been 720p exactly, I wouldn't have called it low res.

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To be able to claim display of HD quality video, your display must be capable of 720p format without down-scaling. That is a 1280×720 resolution.

The iPad 2 (& iPad Mini) has a 1024x768 display, where the 720p content is downscaled and letter-boxed to 1024x576.

To compare, the Kindle Fire HD 7 has a 1280x800 display, so it qualifies as HD.

nutmac said:

While some folks might be happy stereo speakers, I find the feature to be dubious at best.

For one thing, iPad mini has both speakers on the bottom when held in portrait orientation. For video, you will be holding it in landscape orientation, at which point you won't be getting stereo sound anyway.

Secondly, the distance between each speaker is so close that you won't get much stereo separation to begin with.

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This is why I think the feature is more for textbooks than anything else. The distance between speakers should be adequate when held up close.

Mr Fusion said:

Exactly.

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It sounded like he was saying the MINI is EDTV resolution. 720 has always been classified as HDTV although companies selling 1080 have tried to sell it as "real" HD although that's a fairly meaningless term.

Mr Fusion said:

The ATSC is a bunch of pushovers just like the ITU, they've caved to big business and now both "standards" are anything but standards. Who's drinking the corporate kool-aid now?

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So now a standards body can't set standards and you're declaring them yourself? If you're going to claim that 720 isn't HD, you're going to need to link some sort of evidence to back that up, otherwise you're making up your own terminology.

Wow

unbelievable, they startet selling ipad mini in Poland http://twitpic.com/b95asv

Bitgod said:

I was just about the pull the trigger on a 4th gen, and while doing so mentioned I wish they'd friggen put stereo speakers in the maxi. Now I am so friffen mad at Apple. I'm sure that'll be a new feature in the 5th gen. God I can't wait for this company to crash and burn. Ok, gotta order the 4th gen now. sigh.

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Make up your mind, please!

You WILL survive.

Mr Fusion said:

False. The ATSC is a bunch of pushovers just like the ITU, they've caved to big business and now both "standards" are anything but standards. Who's drinking the corporate kool-aid now?

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Why don't you just define HD and tell the rest of the world your definition and then we'll all follow it. Sound okay?

Judas1 said:

Stereo speakers? What the hell. Don't people watch movies in landscape, and the sound is still coming from one side only?

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Could be worse. Like the Xoom, which had the speaker on the back so if you held it in your hands it covered the speaker and if you had it propped up against something to watch a movie of show you could hear nothing.

EDTV has never been a standard. It was a marketing term used by TV manufacturers who sold TVs that could not display at least a full 720p signal. I think Philips sold a lot of EDTVs in the late 90s.

they should do a benchmark comparison too

Judas1 said:

I was specifically talking about the screen, not about the speakers. But with respect to the speakers, when you compare the fire's speaker configuration to the mini, one is obviously stereo, the other is just barely technically stereo. Enjoy poking at Amazon for only barely be inaccurate.

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Am not, as a matter of fact i love Amazon, i really do. Not their tablets though. Anyway, which tablet have a better sterio speakers is irrelevant to the subject. Technically and aparently iPad mini does have sterio speakers, something Amazon (by honest mistake i believe) was claiming it doesn't. I just would have thought that they would have waited to get the facts right before rushing with the penis size contest type of adverts.

Rodimus Prime said:

false advertising and a mistake are two different things. Apple did do false adverting and lied.

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The fact that Apple not state whether it is stereo or a mono speaker is exactly that, nothing more. Yes, please do try to turn it into something it is not. You do like to show your hatred for Apple whenever possible, don't you.

Rodimus Prime said:

Amazon on the other hand made an honest mistake and I can easily see way because of how close together the speakers on not like you can hear any stereo sound out of them.

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Now let's see how long Amazon leaves that "mistake" on their website. Of course if they decide to leave it as is, I guess *you* will claim it is another honest mistake on Amazon's part.

jmcrutch said:

Why don't you just define HD and tell the rest of the world your definition and then we'll all follow it. Sound okay?

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Works for me.

1080p. BAM!

bbeagle said:

That's false advertising, Amazon!

Maybe you should have to put out an ad on your website saying that you lied.

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That's golden!!!

They haven't taken it down - see here.

Also, it's a bit misleading for them to quote their product price that includes ads.

driceman said:

Hahaha fail Amazon...

Now they just need a better display and processor in the Mini and I'll take a look... Not much point in "upgrading" from my iPad 2 for a product with the same resolution and chip.

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An ipad 4 came out too... I don't think the ipad mini was intended for owners of current iPads..

Mr Fusion said:

Works for me.

1080p. BAM!

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At what refresh rate?

milo said:

It sounded like he was saying the MINI is EDTV resolution. 720 has always been classified as HDTV although companies selling 1080 have tried to sell it as "real" HD although that's a fairly meaningless term.

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Yeah I think so too. I think "ED" was dropped in fear of lawsuits by Viagra/Cialis.

So now a standards body can't set standards and you're declaring them yourself? If you're going to claim that 720 isn't HD, you're going to need to link some sort of evidence to back that up, otherwise you're making up your own terminology.

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Standards bodies can't be trusted anymore, they're not impartial. I am. Just goes to show if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

Mr Fusion said:

Yeah I think so too. I think "ED" was dropped in fear of lawsuits by Viagra/Cialis.



Standards bodies can't be trusted anymore, they're not impartial. I am. Just goes to show if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

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No one is impartial. No one. We are inherently filled with bias. It's how we make decisions.

jmcrutch said:

At what refresh rate?

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Hmm.. I think it has a lot to do with the content. 24 frames for movies and tv shows, 50/60 frames minimum for sports. For everything else that an iPad does I'd want the maximum refresh rate possible.

Small White Car said:

There is something wrong when you can put the same number of pixels in a 4" Android phone as in a 70" TV and give them both the same name.

At that point the term has lost all meaning.

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Yep, exactly this, but we live in label-land, where labels are what matters, not the concepts behind them. You could be 1 pixel off and therefore it wouldn't be HD, and since people judge based on labels only, a viewing 1 pixel fewer would be *hugely* inferior, since it's not "HD". Silly, really.

jmcrutch said:

"No one is impartial. No one. We are inherently filled with bias. It's how we make decisions."

- Biased person

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There. Fixed that for ya.

They should have bullet points for "is an iPad" and "is not an iPad" and see how that works out...

Wow, just think of the amazing spatial imaging those stereo speakers will provide.

Rodimus Prime said:

false advertising and a mistake are two different things. Apple did do false adverting and lied.

Amazon on the other hand made an honest mistake and I can easily see way because of how close together the speakers on not like you can hear any stereo sound out of them.

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Wow...Amazon apologist. What a rare breed.

Mr Fusion said:

Hmm.. I think it has a lot to do with the content. 24 frames for movies and tv shows, 50/60 frames minimum for sports. For everything else that an iPad does I'd want the maximum refresh rate possible.

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I'm okay with that answer. :::: approval stamped ::::