Apple's 2012 Annual Report: More Employees, More Office Space, More Sales - Page 2

emir · Oct 31, 2012, 06:22 PM

Apple Store Istanbul please. 75% of new stores are going to be outside US so istanbul store will happen. But please do not open it in the first two Qs of 2013

slimbek · Oct 31, 2012, 06:23 PM

And here I was hoping for an amazing Apple designed Annual Report doc for some design inspiration... instead I get a boring, realistic legal styled document full of text.

I blame Scott Forstall.

Macboy Pro · Oct 31, 2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by A Hebrew

100 full time equivalent employees PER STORE!?!?

And we wonder why the 13" Macbook Pro Retina with 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD is $1700, about $800 over priced and at least $400 from anyone calling reasonable. PS.. its in stock everywhere but folks homes and I suspect it will remain that way :-)

unlimitedx · Oct 31, 2012, 06:32 PM

Apple = jobs creator

IJ Reilly · Oct 31, 2012, 06:39 PM

So here's what the Apple 10-K says about their investment portfolio:

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The Company’s marketable securities investment portfolio is invested primarily in highly-rated securities and its investment policy generally limits the amount of credit exposure to any one issuer. The policy requires investments generally to be investment grade with the objective of minimizing the potential risk of principal loss. As of September*29, 2012 and September*24, 2011, $82.6 billion and $54.3 billion, respectively, of the Company’s cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities were held by foreign subsidiaries and are generally based in U.S. dollar-denominated holdings.

Reading further, it the report breaks this down primarily as: money market funds, federal notes, municipal bonds, commercial debt, and commercial paper.

johnsy · Oct 31, 2012, 07:01 PM

check the ebay part departament. Massive unibody macbook's magsafe board, and motherboard problems. Most apple sales come from software and apps. The only pieces of hardware, that are somehow OK : iphone, mac pro and imac. Apple almost left portable laptop market, since products are so flawed.

kdarling · Oct 31, 2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Will

$515,000 sales per full-time employee...not bad!

Too bad the sales folk don't get commission. They could be rich instead of being stuck in a job with almost no chance of promotion.

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Originally Posted by nuckinfutz

That's a lot of Jobs. The overseas manufacturing can be looked past considering how many people are putting food on the table because of Apple products.

That's not a lot of jobs, especially compared to other companies with similar revenue, who easily employ four to ten times as many. Compare Apple to the top 50 largest employers in the US. Or the top 10.

But yes, it's better than a poke in the eye

designgeek · Oct 31, 2012, 07:07 PM

But Mittens told me the economy was tanking??? Hmmm.

SWPROX · Oct 31, 2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsy

check the ebay part departament. Massive unibody macbook's magsafe board, and motherboard problems. Most apple sales come from software and apps. The only pieces of hardware, that are somehow OK : iphone, mac pro and imac. Apple almost left portable laptop market, since products are so flawed.

In seperate news,BMW makes all it's money by servicing it's cars,it almost left the car manufacturing business since it's cars are so flawed

johnsy · Oct 31, 2012, 07:21 PM

You see it is not even worth to take apart windows lappy, since market is full of cheap alternatives - tablets, notebooks and subcompact computers, basically disposables. It is only worth to take apart $1000 or $1700+ apple. But at some point you start thinking - why are you paying at least a $1000 for something, that will die in a year or so.

lifeinhd · Oct 31, 2012, 07:27 PM

108.7 employees per store is quite a lot, I admit, but no matter how much time I spend looking around, I can never locate that .7 of an employee

Dekema2 · Oct 31, 2012, 07:30 PM

what would biden say you ask???
osama is dead, gm is alive and apple will thrive!!!

Popeye206 · Oct 31, 2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsy

check the ebay part departament. Massive unibody macbook's magsafe board, and motherboard problems. Most apple sales come from software and apps. The only pieces of hardware, that are somehow OK : iphone, mac pro and imac. Apple almost left portable laptop market, since products are so flawed.

Yeah, I agree... the laptops are junk. I can only get about 5 years of daily use out of them before they have to be replaced. Sucks!

johnsy · Oct 31, 2012, 07:40 PM

how many of these are in China? Computers are made in China, US gets only service, communication, shipping jobs and some design.

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Originally Posted by Popeye206

Yeah, I agree... the laptops are junk. I can only get about 5 years of daily use out of them before they have to be replaced. Sucks!

What models and when they are made???

Will do good · Oct 31, 2012, 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=kdarling;16192127]Too bad the sales folk don't get commission. They could be rich instead of being stuck in a job with almost no chance of promotion.

I wouldn't want sales people up sell me every time I walk into a Apple store.
If they are un-happy at Apple they should look for abetter pay job else where. As you say, it's better than a poke in the eye

you people smh · Oct 31, 2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Will

$515,000 sales per full-time employee...not bad!

Totally!

Half a mil per employee, with an average "full-time equivalent" store employee earning $22,360 a year!

Turns out the hardware ain't the only place they have huge margins...

ashoka8350 · Oct 31, 2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JDee

Nice proof-reading.

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Apple now has 42,800 "full-time equivalent" employees, up from 60,400 last year.
Nice proof-reading.
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Read Again friend.

Apple today filed its 2012 annual report with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and the document reveals a few interesting tidbits of information:

- Apple now has ...72,800...(not 42,800)... "full-time equivalent" employees, up from 60,400 last year. The company also went from employing 2,900 "full-time equivalent" temporary employees and contractors to 3,300. 42,400 "full-time equivalent" employees are in the retail division, up from 36,000 last year.

Thunderhawks · Oct 31, 2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lifeinhd

108.7 employees per store is quite a lot, I admit, but no matter how much time I spend looking around, I can never locate that .7 of an employee

That employee is part of the "fool"time employment equivalent

johnsy · Oct 31, 2012, 08:27 PM

more than 100 people per store? Perhaps most of them are in back, working on hardware without a sight of daylight. This number includes full and part time people, hired for a month or so and people who work for at least a few years. There is no physical way to fit all these people in store on different 8 hour shifts.

whcchief · Oct 31, 2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ashoka8350

@ Quote:
Apple now has 42,800 "full-time equivalent" employees, up from 60,400 last year.
Nice proof-reading.
------------------------------------------------------------
Read Again friend.

Apple today filed its 2012 annual report with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and the document reveals a few interesting tidbits of information:

- Apple now has ...72,800...(not 42,800)... "full-time equivalent" employees, up from 60,400 last year. The company also went from employing 2,900 "full-time equivalent" temporary employees and contractors to 3,300. 42,400 "full-time equivalent" employees are in the retail division, up from 36,000 last year.

Ugh, it was originally 42,800 by mistake. Read the thread.

olegandbuster25 · Oct 31, 2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macboy Pro

And we wonder why the 13" Macbook Pro Retina with 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD is $1700, about $800 over priced and at least $400 from anyone calling reasonable. PS.. its in stock everywhere but folks homes and I suspect it will remain that way :-)

its in stock because anyone who cared about a pricey computer with retina display already shed over 2000 on a 15 inch, and didnt complain about that price because id say its pretty damn fair. - myself included

OrangeSVTguy · Oct 31, 2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsy

more than 100 people per store? Perhaps most of them are in back, working on hardware without a sight of daylight. This number includes full and part time people, hired for a month or so and people who work for at least a few years. There is no physical way to fit all these people in store on different 8 hour shifts.

I believe that's all the workers combined and that blows that number out of proportion. They all don't work in the Apple Stores. More like factories and call centers, outside the US.

JAT · Oct 31, 2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsy

how many of these are in China? Computers are made in China, US gets only service, communication, shipping jobs and some design.

Very few. Apple contracts for manufacture, rather than employing.

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Originally Posted by OrangeSVTguy

I believe that's all the workers combined and that blows that number out of proportion. They all don't work in the Apple Stores. More like factories and call centers, outside the US.

Nope, retail only. Grab a calculator to prove it, I'm sure whatever device you type posts on has a calculator.

HardRain · Oct 31, 2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by designgeek

But Mittens told me the economy was tanking??? Hmmm.

Don't give up on Mittens just yet!

LagunaSol · Oct 31, 2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kdarling

Too bad the sales folk don't get commission. They could be rich instead of being stuck in a job with almost no chance of promotion.

I'm sure Microsoft Store employees make huge money with plenty of upward mobility.

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johnsy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2006	You see it is not even worth to take apart windows lappy, since market is full of cheap alternatives - tablets, notebooks and subcompact computers, basically disposables. It is only worth to take apart $1000 or $1700+ apple. But at some point you start thinking - why are you paying at least a $1000 for something, that will die in a year or so. __________________ polaroid 8''PMID800 1 Ghz Arm cortex A8, gpu: mali 400, RAM 512 mb ddr3, 4gb memory, screen 800x 600(4:3), wi-fi 802.11 b/g/n My little toxic fume tablet.
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johnsy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2006	more than 100 people per store? Perhaps most of them are in back, working on hardware without a sight of daylight. This number includes full and part time people, hired for a month or so and people who work for at least a few years. There is no physical way to fit all these people in store on different 8 hour shifts. __________________ polaroid 8''PMID800 1 Ghz Arm cortex A8, gpu: mali 400, RAM 512 mb ddr3, 4gb memory, screen 800x 600(4:3), wi-fi 802.11 b/g/n My little toxic fume tablet.
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slimbek macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia	And here I was hoping for an amazing Apple designed Annual Report doc for some design inspiration... instead I get a boring, realistic legal styled document full of text. I blame Scott Forstall.
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unlimitedx macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2010	Apple = jobs creator
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Dekema2 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2012	what would biden say you ask??? osama is dead, gm is alive and apple will thrive!!!
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Will do good macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Earth	[QUOTE=kdarling;16192127]Too bad the sales folk don't get commission. They could be rich instead of being stuck in a job with almost no chance of promotion. I wouldn't want sales people up sell me every time I walk into a Apple store. If they are un-happy at Apple they should look for abetter pay job else where. As you say, it's better than a poke in the eye
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