MKV to MP4 for AppleTV - Page 4

Menneisyys2 · Oct 30, 2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

So I have read through this thread which was originally about changing the MKV container to ATV compatible mp4 container without changing the quality or the size of the original MKV file. I would love to accomplish this as well! I use Handbreak when i want to reduce an MKV size but have been on the look out for a program that doesnt! after reading thru this thread the conclusion I have come to is MP4Tools, iFlicks and iVI accomplish the container switch without changing the integrity of the original MKV correct? The thread sort of went off with audio sync issues and track selection, playback etc. so I just wanted some confirmation the container switch programs-Thanks Jim

Yes, all three can remux. Of the three, I recommend the beta version (NOT the non-beta one!!!) MP4Tools the most - the other two apps are considerably slower.

mic j · Oct 30, 2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Menneisyys2

Yes, all three can remux. Of the three, I recommend the beta version (NOT the non-beta one!!!) MP4Tools the most - the other two apps are considerably slower.

What about Subler???? You are always a big proponent.

JMEANS · 10:25 AM

Thank you! so MP4Tools Beta, i will try it!
Subler doesn't convert MKV container to MP4 container does it?! I use it all the time for tagging only... If it can switch container does it keep the file the same size? I do not want to shrink the file or mess with structure. Thanks

Menneisyys2 · Oct 30, 2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mic j

What about Subler???? You are always a big proponent.

I referred to the three apps listed - of course, the (fourth, non-listed) Subler is the best in most cases

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Subler doesn't convert MKV container to MP4 container does it?! I use it all the time for tagging only... If it can switch container does it keep the file the same size? I do not want to shrink the file or mess with structure. Thanks

It does remux. The mp4 and mkv containers have roughly the same size assuming the same elementary streams.

JMEANS · Oct 30, 2012, 10:27 AM

Cool I will try SUBLER to switch the container first then !! Awesome thanks so much!! Jim

Menneisyys2 · Oct 30, 2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Cool I will try SUBLER to switch the container first then !! Awesome thanks so much!! Jim

OK. You might also want to check out my other posts here at MacRumors - I've posted tons of Subler tips, tutorials etc.

JMEANS · Oct 30, 2012, 11:04 AM

Thanks man, ha ha, you read my mind. now my interest is peaked! wondering now what other file extensions SUBLER can convert for my ATV2? I will seek out your posts for sure!

Menneisyys2 · Oct 30, 2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Thanks man, ha ha, you read my mind. now my interest is peaked! wondering now what other file extensions SUBLER can convert for my ATV2? I will seek out your posts for sure!

Only MKV files.

Use AviDemux 2.6 to convert from AVI's. (It can also remux MKV's or MTS'es but without subtitle or other auxillary tracks like AVCHD timecode; this is why Subler or MP4Tools are preferred when converting from MKV's.)

JMEANS · Oct 30, 2012, 08:26 PM

well i tried Subler and keep getting a RED STOP SIGN from the MKV file. The file originally has only the 5.1 audio, so i added that audio track again to get a 2 channel stereo track, however couldn't change it from the 5.1 ?! Either way i couldn't get a successful remux : ( tried 3 MKV files I downloaded off PB with no success. The MKV files look and work perfect thru VLC but the goal here is to remux so i can view on my ATV. What am i doing wrong?

mic j · Oct 31, 2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

well i tried Subler and keep getting a RED STOP SIGN from the MKV file. The file originally has only the 5.1 audio, so i added that audio track again to get a 2 channel stereo track, however couldn't change it from the 5.1 ?! Either way i couldn't get a successful remux : ( tried 3 MKV files I downloaded off PB with no success. The MKV files look and work perfect thru VLC but the goal here is to remux so i can view on my ATV. What am i doing wrong?

Verify that your mkv's contain the h.264 codec using Media Inspector.

JMEANS · Oct 31, 2012, 08:45 AM

Thanks I will, and if they are h.264 would there be another reason? Just curious

Now if they aren't would iVI be a good alternative? I tried MP4Tools and it took forever and I noticed audio sync issues : (
Thanks in advance for any additional suggestions - JIM

mic j · Oct 31, 2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Thanks I will, and if they are h.264 would there be another reason? Just curious

Now if they aren't would iVI be a good alternative? I tried MP4Tools and it took forever and I noticed audio sync issues : (
Thanks in advance for any additional suggestions - JIM

If you are using ML, you should probably look through this thread as it appears to be a similar issue and was finally resolved.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1478588

Frankly, downloads can have some funky stuff in them which is hard to track down.

JMEANS · Oct 31, 2012, 09:15 AM

Yeah still driving Snow Leopard though... will give iVI a try!

Menneisyys2 · 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Yeah still driving Snow Leopard though... will give iVI a try!

I don't really recommend iVI. Try using iFlicks - it's better than iVI at mkv's and has a trial version.

Btw, was it the beta version of mp4tools that you used, or the official (and not recommended) one?

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

well i tried Subler and keep getting a RED STOP SIGN from the MKV file. The file originally has only the 5.1 audio, so i added that audio track again to get a 2 channel stereo track, however couldn't change it from the 5.1 ?! Either way i couldn't get a successful remux : ( tried 3 MKV files I downloaded off PB with no success. The MKV files look and work perfect thru VLC but the goal here is to remux so i can view on my ATV. What am i doing wrong?

Red stop may have meant BD subs. Check what's in the mkv. If there are indeed BD subs, remove them or convert toVobSubs or srt's first. Feel fe to post a MediaInfo screenshot here if you're not sure about all this.

JMEANS · Oct 31, 2012, 10:24 AM

Oh boy, well I am not sure what version of MP4Tools I'm driving... Another thing with it too is not only was the audio out of sync the volume was wicked low as well?! File certainly seemed drastically altered from the original MKV file.

As far as the red stop I bet you that is what the hiccup is with the downloaded MKV's I have (I hope) because i know they are H.264 because it was in the description of the download and they are MKV files which have ti be right?

anyway I will check the files with Media inspector I guess or is there a way in SUBLER to see if there are subs? When I load the MKV file it just lists Video H.264, Audio Ac3 5.1, Chapter track

Really want to use SUBLER but worst case I guess I can try iFlicks, so thanks so much again !

Dc2006ster · 05:16 PM

Check your tv manual. I can save mkv files on a USB key and play them on my TV or I can stream them ( using EyeConnect) to my tv from my Mac. No converting of any kind.

Or if you have a PS3, you can use PS3 Media Server to view the mkv movie on your TV via the PS3 and it will do any necessary conversions as it streams. Also this allows you to copy the file onto the hard drive in the PS3.

Menneisyys2 · Oct 31, 2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Oh boy, well I am not sure what version of MP4Tools I'm driving...

1. MP4Tools > About MP4Tools. What do you see? 3.1.4? Then, it's a non-beta and shouldn't be used.

2. the latest beta is at http://www.emmgunn.com/betadownload.html . The current version is 3.2.b15 released some days ago (10/27/12).

JMEANS · Nov 1, 2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Menneisyys2

Btw, was it the beta version of mp4tools that you used, or the official (and not recommended) one?[COLOR="#808080"] .

Yes I was using the official NOT GOOD so I got the BETA. And I got 2 files to remux perfectly!! No audio issues and size and quality the same as the original MKV!! Thank you so much for the heads-up!!

Menneisyys2 · Nov 1, 2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JMEANS

Yes I was using the official NOT GOOD so I got the BETA. And I got 2 files to remux perfectly!! No audio issues and size and quality the same as the original MKV!! Thank you so much for the heads-up!!

Yup, the beta is way better than the official - this is why I don't recommend the latter at all.

icanic · Nov 4, 2012, 03:44 PM

Definetly the best and fastest software for MKV to MP4 on OSX is iFlicks.
Just choose preset "iTunes compatible" and enjoy!!

It adds subtitles automatic but you need to have subtitle in movie folder:

movie.mkv
movie.eng.srt

Just drag movie.mkv into iFlicks and subtitle is added automaticly.

http://youtu.be/Yrn8ahtAy2U

Menneisyys2 · Nov 4, 2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by icanic

Definetly the best and fastest software for MKV to MP4 on OSX is iFlicks.

Well, I've benchmarked all OS X remuxers on my MBP (both with a HDD and a Vertex 4 SSD) and found iFlicks considerably (about 5 times / 3 times) slower than Subler / MP4Tools beta, respectively.

That is, I'd give a try to the latter two first. (And, of course, start with Subler as it's absolutely free and THE fastest.)

kernow10r · Jan 12, 2013, 12:17 PM

i have been using handbrake for a while now with no problems except the time it takes to convert for Apple TV. I have just started using MKV2M4V and MP4 Tools for muxing but have run into a strange problem. Both programs have failed to mux the last 10 minutes of 2 different movies. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

Menneisyys2 · Jan 18, 2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow10r

i have been using handbrake for a while now with no problems except the time it takes to convert for Apple TV. I have just started using MKV2M4V and MP4 Tools for muxing but have run into a strange problem. Both programs have failed to mux the last 10 minutes of 2 different movies. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

1, MKV2M4V isn't as robust / powerful as, say, Subler or even the latest betas of MP4Tools. I wouldn't personally use it - there are better choices. (See http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1504900 for more info & comparisons.)

2, are you sure you have the latest version of MP4Tools?

3, can you post an example MKV, with which these tools fail? You could just radically downsize the video track via Handbrake and overwriting the video track of the MKV file with the converted video track (assuming the results are still incompatible with the remuxers) so that the upload file becomes manageable.

ZeRoLiMiT · Jan 22, 2013, 07:08 PM

What do you guys use to input the meta data? I have a lot of TV Shows and Movies. Do you guys do one at a time! Thanks in advance!

Oct 30, 2012, 10:14 AM	#78
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Thank you! so MP4Tools Beta, i will try it! Subler doesn't convert MKV container to MP4 container does it?! I use it all the time for tagging only... If it can switch container does it keep the file the same size? I do not want to shrink the file or mess with structure. Thanks Last edited by JMEANS; Oct 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM.
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Oct 31, 2012, 10:34 AM	#91
Dc2006ster macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada	Check your tv manual. I can save mkv files on a USB key and play them on my TV or I can stream them ( using EyeConnect) to my tv from my Mac. No converting of any kind. Or if you have a PS3, you can use PS3 Media Server to view the mkv movie on your TV via the PS3 and it will do any necessary conversions as it streams. Also this allows you to copy the file onto the hard drive in the PS3. Last edited by Dc2006ster; Oct 31, 2012 at 05:16 PM.
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Oct 30, 2012, 10:27 AM	#80
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Cool I will try SUBLER to switch the container first then !! Awesome thanks so much!! Jim
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Oct 30, 2012, 11:04 AM	#82
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Thanks man, ha ha, you read my mind. now my interest is peaked! wondering now what other file extensions SUBLER can convert for my ATV2? I will seek out your posts for sure!
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Oct 30, 2012, 08:26 PM	#84
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	well i tried Subler and keep getting a RED STOP SIGN from the MKV file. The file originally has only the 5.1 audio, so i added that audio track again to get a 2 channel stereo track, however couldn't change it from the 5.1 ?! Either way i couldn't get a successful remux : ( tried 3 MKV files I downloaded off PB with no success. The MKV files look and work perfect thru VLC but the goal here is to remux so i can view on my ATV. What am i doing wrong?
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Oct 31, 2012, 08:45 AM	#86
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Thanks I will, and if they are h.264 would there be another reason? Just curious Now if they aren't would iVI be a good alternative? I tried MP4Tools and it took forever and I noticed audio sync issues : ( Thanks in advance for any additional suggestions - JIM
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Oct 31, 2012, 09:15 AM	#88
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Yeah still driving Snow Leopard though... will give iVI a try!
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Oct 31, 2012, 10:24 AM	#90
JMEANS macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2012	Oh boy, well I am not sure what version of MP4Tools I'm driving... Another thing with it too is not only was the audio out of sync the volume was wicked low as well?! File certainly seemed drastically altered from the original MKV file. As far as the red stop I bet you that is what the hiccup is with the downloaded MKV's I have (I hope) because i know they are H.264 because it was in the description of the download and they are MKV files which have ti be right? anyway I will check the files with Media inspector I guess or is there a way in SUBLER to see if there are subs? When I load the MKV file it just lists Video H.264, Audio Ac3 5.1, Chapter track Really want to use SUBLER but worst case I guess I can try iFlicks, so thanks so much again !
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Nov 4, 2012, 03:44 PM	#95
icanic macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2009	Definetly the best and fastest software for MKV to MP4 on OSX is iFlicks. Just choose preset "iTunes compatible" and enjoy!! It adds subtitles automatic but you need to have subtitle in movie folder: movie.mkv movie.eng.srt Just drag movie.mkv into iFlicks and subtitle is added automaticly. http://youtu.be/Yrn8ahtAy2U
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Jan 12, 2013, 12:17 PM	#97
kernow10r macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2013	i have been using handbrake for a while now with no problems except the time it takes to convert for Apple TV. I have just started using MKV2M4V and MP4 Tools for muxing but have run into a strange problem. Both programs have failed to mux the last 10 minutes of 2 different movies. Hope someone can help. Thanks.
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Jan 22, 2013, 07:08 PM	#99
ZeRoLiMiT macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2010	What do you guys use to input the meta data? I have a lot of TV Shows and Movies. Do you guys do one at a time! Thanks in advance!
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