is update for AirPort Extreme coming ?

vladgrig · Oct 29, 2012, 05:36 AM

Hi guys,
When do u think AirPort Extreme will be updated with USB 3.0 and /or Thunderbolt port ?

Thank you!

justperry · Oct 29, 2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vladgrig

Hi guys,
When do u think AirPort Extreme will be updated with USB 3.0 and /or Thunderbolt port ?

Thank you!

My guess is next year when they also will include ac wireless protocol and they won't start that until Mac's have it, so second half or end of first half 2013.
And forget about Thunderbolt.

waw74 · Oct 29, 2012, 12:12 PM

maybe USB3, not thunderbolt

USB2 is pretty much the same speed as a good 5GHz N signal, not sure what the extreme can get, but i get about 30-33 MB/s with my linksys if i'm in the same room.

the only way you'll see the difference between USB2 and USB3 is if you're using a wired connection.

Macman45 · Oct 29, 2012, 12:13 PM

I asked this exact question when I ordered my iPad..."No" was the answer, so next year would seem to be about right..New wifi standards will be the key here I think.

vladgrig · Oct 29, 2012, 11:40 PM

thank you for replies! i wanted to use external drive with usb 3 connected to extreme so I was wondering if its worth to wait.. now it seems probably not

Apple Fan 21 · Oct 30, 2012, 11:00 AM

The impending update is one of the main reasons I didn’t but AirPort Extreme last weekend when I upgraded my network. I want a AirPort Extreme in the current form w/ wifi AC and both Thunderbolt/USB 3.0 I/O for $150.

vladgrig · Nov 6, 2012, 05:18 AM

just wondering if there are any recent rumors?

joesrepsol · Nov 6, 2012, 10:55 AM

So here'e the deal... the interface speed doesn't really matter unless you have enough I/O to push it. Most users only have a single hard drive connected to their Airport Extreme. So regardless of the Interface (USB 2, USB 3, Firewire, or even Thunderbolt) you are limited to the drives performance and I/O. so it won't really go any faster.

Also, if your using the Airport Extreme in a wireless manner, then your WiFi network is a slow component as well.

All this discussion about theoritical thruput doesn't matter unless you have 6-8 SSD's in a RAID 0 stripe, then you might actually hit the ceiling of the interfaces. Ever actually copied 800MBs on your firewire connected drives? I dont think so. Ever copied 480MBs on your USB 2 drive? Didn't think so either. And you will certainly not claim to have copied 5GBs on your USB 3 drive. If so, you're just plain silly.

The only way to get those numbers is the RAID multiple drives together to hit those numbers. So unless you have (20) 6Gbs SSDs, moving an average of 500Mbs (500 x 20 = 10GB) then you probably wont hit the ceiling of a thunderbolt connection anytime soon either.

Summary:
Even if Apple added these new ports to the airport extreme, you would only see small improvements on the speed. That's a fact.

southerndoc · Nov 6, 2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joesrepsol

Even if Apple added these new ports to the airport extreme, you would only see small improvements on the speed. That's a fact.

What about streaming multiple HD video streams?

madsci954 · Nov 6, 2012, 12:04 PM

I wouldn't expect any new AE or TC until Apple adds wifi AC frequencies to their products. So probably whenever the newest iPad, Mac, or iPhone gets AC option, expect an AC AE to be right around the corner.

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vladgrig macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2012	is update for AirPort Extreme coming ? Hi guys, When do u think AirPort Extreme will be updated with USB 3.0 and /or Thunderbolt port ? Thank you!
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Macman45 macrumors G4 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere Back In The Long Ago	I asked this exact question when I ordered my iPad..."No" was the answer, so next year would seem to be about right..New wifi standards will be the key here I think. __________________ Time And Tide Wait For No Man
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Nov 6, 2012, 10:55 AM	#8
joesrepsol macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	Interface Speed versus I/O Speed So here'e the deal... the interface speed doesn't really matter unless you have enough I/O to push it. Most users only have a single hard drive connected to their Airport Extreme. So regardless of the Interface (USB 2, USB 3, Firewire, or even Thunderbolt) you are limited to the drives performance and I/O. so it won't really go any faster. Also, if your using the Airport Extreme in a wireless manner, then your WiFi network is a slow component as well. All this discussion about theoritical thruput doesn't matter unless you have 6-8 SSD's in a RAID 0 stripe, then you might actually hit the ceiling of the interfaces. Ever actually copied 800MBs on your firewire connected drives? I dont think so. Ever copied 480MBs on your USB 2 drive? Didn't think so either. And you will certainly not claim to have copied 5GBs on your USB 3 drive. If so, you're just plain silly. The only way to get those numbers is the RAID multiple drives together to hit those numbers. So unless you have (20) 6Gbs SSDs, moving an average of 500Mbs (500 x 20 = 10GB) then you probably wont hit the ceiling of a thunderbolt connection anytime soon either. Summary: Even if Apple added these new ports to the airport extreme, you would only see small improvements on the speed. That's a fact.
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Oct 29, 2012, 12:12 PM	#3
waw74 macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2008	maybe USB3, not thunderbolt USB2 is pretty much the same speed as a good 5GHz N signal, not sure what the extreme can get, but i get about 30-33 MB/s with my linksys if i'm in the same room. the only way you'll see the difference between USB2 and USB3 is if you're using a wired connection.
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Oct 29, 2012, 11:40 PM	#5
vladgrig Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2012	thank you for replies! i wanted to use external drive with usb 3 connected to extreme so I was wondering if its worth to wait.. now it seems probably not
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Oct 30, 2012, 11:00 AM	#6
Apple Fan 21 macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2012	The impending update is one of the main reasons I didn’t but AirPort Extreme last weekend when I upgraded my network. I want a AirPort Extreme in the current form w/ wifi AC and both Thunderbolt/USB 3.0 I/O for $150.
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Nov 6, 2012, 05:18 AM	#7
vladgrig Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2012	just wondering if there are any recent rumors?
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Nov 6, 2012, 12:04 PM	#10
madsci954 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ohio	I wouldn't expect any new AE or TC until Apple adds wifi AC frequencies to their products. So probably whenever the newest iPad, Mac, or iPhone gets AC option, expect an AC AE to be right around the corner.
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